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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Spike55 > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM > Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs > > MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time ? Just buy a new tire. I think you must have really enjoyed the movie " Worlds Fastest Indian " hahaha > > > > -Mike- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Spike55 > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an aggressive lean (hard road) for a turn on well worn knobbie to semi-knobbie tires. You can feel it get up on that sharp edge, of a squared off tire, and it starts to walk out on you. > > > > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk. He had taken a recip-saw to his outside knobbies to round off the rear Kendra again. It looked like a mess to me. He said he had Dyna-Beads in the tire and that compensated for inbalances he might have produced with his inconsistent attacks on individual knobs. > > > > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could produce even more problems, so ... I used my belt sander with 40 grit. I put the bike up on the center stand and weighed down the front so the rear wheel was up in the air and spun freely. You can control the wheel rotation speed by angling the sander and I was usually in the 60 deg off of the center line. This kept the wheel moving to avoid producing any flat spots but not too fast. I frequently stopped to assess where and how much rubber was coming off. > > > > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier pictures in that same album how square a 7,000 mile MEFO looks versus one that has been sanded off. I'm going to check out the performance once the weather clears up but I think I shouldn't feel that annoying transition anymore. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Hansen To: KLR Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Spike55 To: Mike Hansen Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time ? Just buy a new tire. I think you must have really enjoyed the movie " Worlds Fastest Indian " hahaha > > -Mike- > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Spike55 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an aggressive lean (hard road) for a turn on well worn knobbie to semi-knobbie tires. You can feel it get up on that sharp edge, of a squared off tire, and it starts to walk out on you. > > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk. He had taken a recip-saw to his outside knobbies to round off the rear Kendra again. It looked like a mess to me. He said he had Dyna-Beads in the tire and that compensated for inbalances he might have produced with his inconsistent attacks on individual knobs. > > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could produce even more problems, so ... I used my belt sander with 40 grit. I put the bike up on the center stand and weighed down the front so the rear wheel was up in the air and spun freely. You can control the wheel rotation speed by angling the sander and I was usually in the 60 deg off of the center line. This kept the wheel moving to avoid producing any flat spots but not too fast. I frequently stopped to assess where and how much rubber was coming off. > > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier pictures in that same album how square a 7,000 mile MEFO looks versus one that has been sanded off. I'm going to check out the performance once the weather clears up but I think I shouldn't feel that annoying transition anymore. > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> [Original Message] > From: Mike Hansen > To: KLR dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 4/29/2009 1:38:29 PM > Subject: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > NIce SPAM !!!!! > > no thanks FRED HINK > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Fred Hink > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:29:15 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > Mike, > > I have the MEFO Explorer tires in stock if you are wanting to try some

> Fred > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Hansen > To: KLR > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > > > what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Spike55 > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM > Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs > > MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen

> > > > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time

> > > > -Mike- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Spike55 > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an

> > > > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk.

> > > > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could

> > > > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier

> > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Seifert" To: "Mike Hansen" ; "KLR" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: RE: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > Heya Mike... > > I don't think it's SPAM if Fred is the moderator/owner of the > site........... > > Just my .03 > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Mike Hansen >> To: KLR dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >> Date: 4/29/2009 1:38:29 PM >> Subject: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs >> >> NIce SPAM !!!!! >> >> no thanks FRED HINK >> >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> From: Fred Hink >> To: Mike Hansen >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:29:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs >> >> >> Mike, >> >> I have the MEFO Explorer tires in stock if you are wanting to try some > out. You can read about them on my Parts Pages. These have been a good > selling tire and work well on the KLR. If you have any questions about > these tires or anything else, let me know. >> Fred >> http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >> http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mike Hansen >> To: KLR >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM >> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs >> >> >> >> >> what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> From: Spike55 >> To: Mike Hansen >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM >> Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs >> >> MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. >> >> Don R100, A6F >> >> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen > wrote: >> > >> > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time > ? Just buy a new tire. I think you must have really enjoyed the movie " > Worlds Fastest Indian " hahaha >> > >> > -Mike- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __ >> > From: Spike55 >> > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM >> > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an > aggressive lean (hard road) for a turn on well worn knobbie to > semi-knobbie > tires. You can feel it get up on that sharp edge, of a squared off tire, > and it starts to walk out on you. >> > >> > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk. > He had taken a recip-saw to his outside knobbies to round off the rear > Kendra again. It looked like a mess to me. He said he had Dyna-Beads in > the > tire and that compensated for inbalances he might have produced with his > inconsistent attacks on individual knobs. >> > >> > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could > produce even more problems, so ... I used my belt sander with 40 grit. I > put the bike up on the center stand and weighed down the front so the rear > wheel was up in the air and spun freely. You can control the wheel > rotation > speed by angling the sander and I was usually in the 60 deg off of the > center line. This kept the wheel moving to avoid producing any flat spots > but not too fast. I frequently stopped to assess where and how much rubber > was coming off. >> > >> > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier > pictures in that same album how square a 7,000 mile MEFO looks versus one > that has been sanded off. I'm going to check out the performance once the > weather clears up but I think I shouldn't feel that annoying transition > anymore. >> > >> > Don R100, A6F >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

On 4/29/09, Russell Scott wrote: > > > > Fred, you've done it the old fashion, you earned it. In my book you can say > anything you want, spam or otherwise. We all know you're not some one hit > wonder, but the "Chairman of the Board". You've done it your way, the right > way, to promote the KLR with your knowledge, your shop, this list, and > Canyonlands Classic. > > IMHO > > R > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > NIce SPAM !!!!! > > no thanks FRED HINK > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Fred Hink > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:29:15 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > Mike, > > I have the MEFO Explorer tires in stock if you are wanting to try some out. You can read about them on my Parts Pages. These have been a good selling tire and work well on the KLR. If you have any questions about these tires or anything else, let me know. > Fred > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Hansen > To: KLR > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > > > what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Spike55 > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM > Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs > > MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time ? Just buy a new tire. I think you must have really enjoyed the movie " Worlds Fastest Indian " hahaha > > > > -Mike- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Spike55 > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an aggressive lean (hard road) for a turn on well worn knobbie to semi-knobbie tires. You can feel it get up on that sharp edge, of a squared off tire, and it starts to walk out on you. > > > > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk. He had taken a recip-saw to his outside knobbies to round off the rear Kendra again. It looked like a mess to me. He said he had Dyna-Beads in the tire and that compensated for inbalances he might have produced with his inconsistent attacks on individual knobs. > > > > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could produce even more problems, so ... I used my belt sander with 40 grit. I put the bike up on the center stand and weighed down the front so the rear wheel was up in the air and spun freely. You can control the wheel rotation speed by angling the sander and I was usually in the 60 deg off of the center line. This kept the wheel moving to avoid producing any flat spots but not too fast. I frequently stopped to assess where and how much rubber was coming off. > > > > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier pictures in that same album how square a 7,000 mile MEFO looks versus one that has been sanded off. I'm going to check out the performance once the weather clears up but I think I shouldn't feel that annoying transition anymore. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > NIce SPAM !!!!! > > no thanks FRED HINK > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Fred Hink > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:29:15 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > Mike, > > I have the MEFO Explorer tires in stock if you are wanting to try some out. You can read about them on my Parts Pages. These have been a good selling tire and work well on the KLR. If you have any questions about these tires or anything else, let me know. > Fred > http://www.arrowhea dmotorsports. com > http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Hansen > To: KLR > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > > > what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Spike55 > To: Mike Hansen > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM > Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs > > MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time ? Just buy a new tire. I think you must have really enjoyed the movie " Worlds Fastest Indian " hahaha > > > > -Mike- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Spike55 > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an aggressive lean (hard road) for a turn on well worn knobbie to semi-knobbie tires. You can feel it get up on that sharp edge, of a squared off tire, and it starts to walk out on you. > > > > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk. He had taken a recip-saw to his outside knobbies to round off the rear Kendra again. It looked like a mess to me. He said he had Dyna-Beads in the tire and that compensated for inbalances he might have produced with his inconsistent attacks on individual knobs. > > > > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could produce even more problems, so ... I used my belt sander with 40 grit. I put the bike up on the center stand and weighed down the front so the rear wheel was up in the air and spun freely. You can control the wheel rotation speed by angling the sander and I was usually in the 60 deg off of the center line. This kept the wheel moving to avoid producing any flat spots but not too fast. I frequently stopped to assess where and how much rubber was coming off. > > > > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier pictures in that same album how square a 7,000 mile MEFO looks versus one that has been sanded off. I'm going to check out the performance once the weather clears up but I think I shouldn't feel that annoying transition anymore. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > SPAM ? > > Fred was only providing you with a place to look at the tire and offer you advise if wanted. > > Not Spam... > > But I like Spam... Sliced thin and fried that "Bacon Spam" is the Cats Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeow... > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > > NIce SPAM !!!!! > > > > no thanks FRED HINK > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: Fred Hink > > To: Mike Hansen > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:29:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > Mike, > > > > I have the MEFO Explorer tires in stock if you are wanting to try some out. You can read about them on my Parts Pages. These have been a good selling tire and work well on the KLR. If you have any questions about these tires or anything else, let me know. > > Fred > > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike Hansen > > To: KLR > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:10 AM > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fw: Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > > > > > what is a MEFO ?? I guess I'll google it : ) > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: Spike55 > > To: Mike Hansen > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:49:38 AM > > Subject: Re: Sanding MEFOs > > > > MEFOs aren't $65-$85 unless you know where I can get a deal like that. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > > > > > a new tire is $65-85.00 . Why would you spend so much labor and time ? Just buy a new tire. I think you must have really enjoyed the movie " Worlds Fastest Indian " hahaha > > > > > > -Mike- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Spike55 > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:25:55 AM > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Sanding MEFOs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm experimenting again. All of know that feeling when starting into an aggressive lean (hard road) for a turn on well worn knobbie to semi-knobbie tires. You can feel it get up on that sharp edge, of a squared off tire, and it starts to walk out on you. > > > > > > I was dirt riding two weekends ago and a '98 KLR rider stopped to talk. He had taken a recip-saw to his outside knobbies to round off the rear Kendra again. It looked like a mess to me. He said he had Dyna-Beads in the tire and that compensated for inbalances he might have produced with his inconsistent attacks on individual knobs. > > > > > > I felt that the concept was correct but the method he used could produce even more problems, so ... I used my belt sander with 40 grit. I put the bike up on the center stand and weighed down the front so the rear wheel was up in the air and spun freely. You can control the wheel rotation speed by angling the sander and I was usually in the 60 deg off of the center line. This kept the wheel moving to avoid producing any flat spots but not too fast. I frequently stopped to assess where and how much rubber was coming off. > > > > > > The current tires have nearly 6,000 miles. You can see for earlier pictures in that same album how square a 7,000 mile MEFO looks versus one that has been sanded off. I'm going to check out the performance once the weather clears up but I think I shouldn't feel that annoying transition anymore. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > Thats fine, providing the forks "had" the correct level in them to begin with. > > Dooden > A!5 Green Ape > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > > > Martin, > > VERY good question! First time I did it I marked the container so that NEXT time I did it I didn't have to re-collect it...! So far - works fine for me. > > Cheers, > > Ed > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote: > > > > > > > > What I do: collect the oil in a container as I remove it, mark the level then drain the container. Fill to the mark and pour it back into the fork. > > > > Ed > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > How well would that procedure would work on a bike with a blown fork seal? > > > or a bike with an unknown history? > > > or, draining an improperly serviced fork? > > > > > > In a pinch, I would agree with your suggestion-- > > > But not as a rule of thumb. > > > otherwise, > > > It will be a slight-of-hand operation > > > and the results will be all > > > 'forked up' (or down--depending on the +/- volume). > > > > > > revmaaatin. > > > > > >