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[Rick McCauley]

I sure understand the point that clean is a good thing. Grit is like sand paper. But metal to metal is never a good thing either. Jud, I don't recall if it was you, or someone else, that said you got over 20,000 miles out of a chain using WD-40. When, and how do you do your lubing? Rick A17

--- On Tue, 4/21/09, skypilot@... wrote: From: skypilot@... Subject: [DSN_KLR650] RE: chain life To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:32 PM Dirt will always be there,even on the street. The trick is that dirt doesnt stick to clean metal. By cleaning the chain then giving the dirt nothing to stick to you remove the constant grit eating away at the chain. The O-ring chains have lube inside I believe so as long as you leave the chain clean and dont eat away at the orings the lube in the chain's rollers keeps working. Jud is right that the data supports the WD40 track record.When you think it through it is easy to figure out why. Clean is your freind >Posted by: "Jud Jones" judjonzz@msn. com judjonzz>Lots of guys will jump into a discussion like this and tell us again what an inferior lubricant WD40 is. Of course they are right, >but miss the point. There is no chain treatment regimen, lubricant, spooge or snake oil that has been shown to give longer >chain life than WD40 on a bike that sees a significant amount of dirt sand, mud or other unpaved surfaces. Nothing works >better, except a continuous-flow chain oiler. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

I mentioned earlier that I use wheel bearing grease. No specific reason, I just happen to have a 1/2 gallon size tub of it. I just use a paint brush and apply a thin film to the rollers. I do it every few hundred miles. No measured distance, just every so often. If I run my finger between the teeth of the sprocket there is always a film of grease there. I have just under 19,000 miles from the original chain. But I also have a very dirty rear wheel, and the inside of my chain guard is nasty. If you can get just as good with WD-40 then, I would be foolish not to change my ways. It would be nice to keep the rear wheel cleaner. Rick A17

--- On Wed, 4/22/09, Jud Jones wrote: From: Jud Jones Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: chain life To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 9:36 PM --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Rick McCauley wrote: > > I sure understand the point that clean is a good thing. Grit is like sand paper. But metal to metal is never a good thing either. > Jud, I don't recall if it was you, or someone else, that said you got over 20,000 miles out of a chain using WD-40. When, and how do you do your lubing? > Lots of people get similar results with WD40. In fact, that kind of chain life is quite common. I spray my chain down about every 300 miles, or every tank of gas, sometimes more often, sometimes less. If it's really crudded up, I use a grunge brush. I wouldn't say I lube it. The lubricant comes with the chain, contained by the x-rings. I don't care what you use, if you are not using a chain oiler, metal-to-metal between rollers and teeth is the norm. Try this: Treat your chain with your "lube" of choice. Ride your bike, say, 10 miles. Tell me how much "lube" is left on the rollers or the bearing surfaces of the sprocket. If you see anything but bare metal, please let me know, because that is all I have ever observed. It usually takes no more than a ride around the block, maybe a little further, like across the river to the coffee shop. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

The fuel petcock diaphragm is a double membrane type and both layers would have to be punctured for it to leak fuel out of the petcock. Make sure the diaphragm cover is tight. I would also check the o-ring that seals the selector valve to the petcock and the o-ring that seals the petcock to the fuel tank. If fuel is not shutting off that could be for several reasons. The o-ring seal on the diaphragm plunger may be bad or missing. The selector valve seal could be also bad. I see this problem more than a bad diaphragm. The selector valve seal can be reversed so that you have good sealing surfaces again. The petcock repair kit includes all these seals, o-rings and diaphragm. One problem I have seen is that the rubber bits from the selector valve seal will sometimes end up in the float valve and cause it to not shut off. This will create a very rich condition and hard starting. If your KLR ever acts like the choke is on when it isn't, I'd clean the float valve and then check your petcock selector valve seal. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead

----- Original Message ----- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Visu FF 707C --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "The Reverend" wrote: > > Well, I've had an issue with debris in my float - likely from the diaphragm > in the petcock (time for that diaphragm eliminator kit?) so as a temporary > fix, I picked up a $4 Visu filter, part FF 707C. > > Install took all of a minute. We'll know in a day or two if it works as > planned. > Big 'R' Rev-- My experience with the diaphragm failing is that it pee's gas on the engine. Could be that it washes down stream to the float bowl...just not my experience...therefore, probably not. smile. = In all my experience of diaphragm failures, it must pee gas on the engine (and the next act, sets your bike on fire!) cough. Since Fred sells the diaphragm repair kit--maybe he could comment on failure types. My started with a mysterious fuel stain, unknown source, then eventually, a full fledged leak that I could see happen. A word of caution on that fuel filter--you may be going to 'reserve' sooner than before the installation. It would be worth watching, perhaps deliberately checking the mileage. With my fuel filter, (two types) reserve came a full 50 miles early,@~4 gallons used and reserve was only good for about 8-10 miles. Of course, there is the double secret reserve of laying the bike on the left side and sloshing gas into the left half--good for another 8 miles. Ah, double secret reserve--nice to know, painful to use. YMMV (and reserve may very as well.) revmaaatin. (lil 'r' rev) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]