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maudibbb
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Post by maudibbb » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:15 am

Folks, I want to replace all the fuel and vacuum lines on my 2001 KLR650. The online fiche shows both 5mm and 6.5mm hoses, but I don't know which goes where. In addition, I'd like to know what sizes in inches rather than metric to buy. What do most of you more experienced people use? Anyone use something like TYGON fuel line? Also are there better choices for the fuel line clamps then the original stock ones? Thanks!

Spike55
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Post by Spike55 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:33 am

I know that the fuel line from the petcock to the carb is thicker walled than the breather tube from the petcock back up to the tank. Rather than mess with the OEM spring clamps, I bought these black plastic clamps that have internal 'teeth' that allow you to quickly twist and remove or squeeze to clamp, all without any tools. Looks like they will last a long time. Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "maudibbb" wrote: > > Folks, I want to replace all the fuel and vacuum lines on my 2001 > KLR650. The online fiche shows both 5mm and 6.5mm hoses, but I don't > know which goes where. In addition, I'd like to know what sizes in > inches rather than metric to buy. What do most of you more experienced > people use? Anyone use something like TYGON fuel line? Also are there > better choices for the fuel line clamps then the original stock ones? > Thanks! >

Darren Clark
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Post by Darren Clark » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:50 pm

5MM = 5/25.4 = 0.1968" ~ 3/16" 6.5MM = 6.5/25.4 = 0.2559" ~ 1/4" specify "Fuel Line", some hoses are made of material that don't get along with gas. and I'd guess 1/4" for fuel and 3/16 for vacuum. Darren Clark 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI maudibbb wrote:
> Folks, I want to replace all the fuel and vacuum lines on my 2001 > KLR650. The online fiche shows both 5mm and 6.5mm hoses, but I don't > know which goes where. In addition, I'd like to know what sizes in > inches rather than metric to buy. What do most of you more experienced > people use? Anyone use something like TYGON fuel line? Also are there > better choices for the fuel line clamps then the original stock ones? > Thanks! > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

revmaaatin
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Post by revmaaatin » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:11 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Darren Clark wrote:
> > > 5MM = 5/25.4 = 0.1968" ~ 3/16" > 6.5MM = 6.5/25.4 = 0.2559" ~ 1/4" > > specify "Fuel Line", some hoses are made of material that don't get > along with gas. > and I'd guess 1/4" for fuel and 3/16 for vacuum. > > Darren Clark > 2004 KLR-650 > Fowlerville, MI > >
You would think that 6.5mm and 1/4 inch would not make much difference. At least by the numbers illustrated. sigh. and if all the connections are easily accessed and made of metal, the 1/4' will probably work just fine. In my experience, 1/4 fuel line does not a 6.5mm make (easily). Yeah, it will work...except the carb fitting is plastic and not easily accessed on the day you can't find your glasses--working with diminished near vision on a bright day, temps over 100F, while parked on a black, asphalt road with the hot wind blowing up your skirt. or was it down my neck. Details to follow in 'short story below'. however, If you have the choice, the mm hose works much better--as in the high quality BMW fuel line (looks like cloth over rubber) is 6.5mm; as in OEM BMW /5 /6 fuel line. Now, for a short story-- There I was; South Dakota prairie, 100F, black asphalt road, wind, and a dead, green pig. and a long way to a gas station. The good news: I was pretty sure it was fuel starvation induced by the fuel filter mod. SO, I had to do a roadside 'swap' with a new 1/4" fuel line, previously purchased that day--only to be nearly exasperated to tears trying to get the 1/4" fuel line go over the flexing, plastic male end on the carburetor. The part is in the shade, the bright light will not allow my eyes to dilate enough to see the nipple! plus, I can't find my glasses. (Problem: When did my arms get so short! I should be able to see this!) I was genuinely frighted that I was going to break that plastic carb part. Later, I replaced that 1/4" line with BMW fuel line (sorry, it was a gift, I know not the source) commonly found on Airhead BMW's--and it went on much more smoothly--and did not leak, even without clamps. The reason for the roadside swap was to 'overcome' the in-line fuel filter that was leaving me stranded with over 1 gallon of unusable fuel. as reported and discussed here previously. Yes, Virginia, during that road side swap, I had plenty of gas to get home but the filter was blocking progress. or at least fuel flow. I got the 1/4" fuel line installed by 'sacrificing' an ink pen, forcing it into the fuel line to expand enough to fit over the plastic carb part. Unfortunately, other than the BMW fuel line/part, I have yet to see anything other than 1/4" fuel line in auto parts stores, this side of the Atlantic pond. Widely available in Italy and Spain--like that is going to do us a lot of good here. revmaaatin.

Cindy & Wayne Burner
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Post by Cindy & Wayne Burner » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:03 am

We used to mount tractor tires that were tall and skinny, onto 24" aluminum wheels that fit on our Toyota Landcruiser mud racer (named "The Yokohama Express). The initial bang would make the tire / rim combo jump about two feet in the air, then you would to wrestle it to the ground and fill it with cold compressed air, because if it was left to cool after seating , the tire would be sucked back off the rim. These were fun times, I will always remember the thrill of the 1500 HP, alcohol , blown, big block Chevy running next to you, It could change the rythum off your heart. I am keeping my 1986 KLR 600, the deal with the plow to fit my YOTA, fell through. Needs a new battery, and a petcock rebuild, and a warm but on the seat. Waiting on parts, and warm weather. Heading into Boston today for the extreme beer fest, put on by the Beer Advocate, taking the Downeaster train for our DD. Wayne(rice)Burner

Don Montgomery
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Post by Don Montgomery » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:23 am

For hose clamps I use the small black wire ties with great sucess usually to insure a hose that would probably stay put, does. The are not reusable so pack a supply in the trunk and something to cut them off with when needed. Don M Going to Inuvik in June, YES!
----- Original Message ----- From: "maudibbb" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR Getting Hosed! > Folks, I want to replace all the fuel and vacuum lines on my 2001 > KLR650. The online fiche shows both 5mm and 6.5mm hoses, but I don't > know which goes where. In addition, I'd like to know what sizes in > inches rather than metric to buy. What do most of you more experienced > people use? Anyone use something like TYGON fuel line? Also are there > better choices for the fuel line clamps then the original stock ones? > Thanks! > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Ross Lindberg
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Post by Ross Lindberg » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:34 am

Martin is right about 1/4 fuel line not fitting. Here is where to get the proper fuel line. Thaanks to Jeff Saline for giving me the info some time ago Judson Cycle Sales 211 Hwy 60 East Lake Crystal, MN 56055 507-726-2222 Fuel Line #DS096671 - BMW Part Ross Lindberg Fertile, MN
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Darren Clark > wrote: > > > > > > 5MM = 5/25.4 = 0.1968" ~ 3/16" > > 6.5MM = 6.5/25.4 = 0.2559" ~ 1/4" > > > > specify "Fuel Line", some hoses are made of material that don't get > > along with gas. > > and I'd guess 1/4" for fuel and 3/16 for vacuum. > > > > Darren Clark > > 2004 KLR-650 > > Fowlerville, MI > > > > > > You would think that 6.5mm and 1/4 inch would not make much > difference. At least by the numbers illustrated. > sigh. > and if all the connections are easily accessed and made of metal, the > 1/4' will probably work just fine. > > In my experience, 1/4 fuel line does not a 6.5mm make (easily). > > Yeah, it will work...except the carb fitting is plastic and not > easily accessed on the day you can't find your glasses--working with > diminished near vision on a bright day, temps over 100F, while parked > on a black, asphalt road with the hot wind blowing up your skirt. or > was it down my neck. Details to follow in 'short story below'. > > however, > If you have the choice, the mm hose works much better--as in the high > quality BMW fuel line (looks like cloth over rubber) is 6.5mm; as in > OEM BMW /5 /6 fuel line. > > > Now, for a short story-- > There I was; South Dakota prairie, 100F, black asphalt road, wind, > and a dead, green pig. and a long way to a gas station. The good > news: I was pretty sure it was fuel starvation induced by the fuel > filter mod. > SO, > I had to do a roadside 'swap' with a new 1/4" fuel line, previously > purchased that day--only to be nearly exasperated to tears trying to > get the 1/4" fuel line go over the flexing, plastic male end on the > carburetor. The part is in the shade, the bright light will not > allow my eyes to dilate enough to see the nipple! plus, I can't find > my glasses. (Problem: When did my arms get so short! I should be > able to see this!) I was genuinely frighted that I was going to > break that plastic carb part. Later, I replaced that 1/4" line with > BMW fuel line (sorry, it was a gift, I know not the source) commonly > found on Airhead BMW's--and it went on much more smoothly--and did > not leak, even without clamps. > > The reason for the roadside swap was to 'overcome' the in-line fuel > filter that was leaving me stranded with over 1 gallon of unusable > fuel. as reported and discussed here previously. Yes, Virginia, > during that road side swap, I had plenty of gas to get home but the > filter was blocking progress. or at least fuel flow. I got the 1/4" > fuel line installed by 'sacrificing' an ink pen, forcing it into the > fuel line to expand enough to fit over the plastic carb part. > > Unfortunately, other than the BMW fuel line/part, I have yet to see > anything other than 1/4" fuel line in auto parts stores, this side of > the Atlantic pond. Widely available in Italy and Spain--like that is > going to do us a lot of good here. > > revmaaatin. >

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