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Posted: **Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:26 am**

Anyone know of a good zip tie tension tool that is reasonably priced that actually works [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:41 am**

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:25:58 -0500 "Carlos Rigdon" writes:

> Anyone know of a good zip tie tension tool that is reasonably priced > that > actually works

<><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> Carlos, If I have a zip tie that needs to be tightened I'll usually use a slip joint pliers to grab the tail of the zip tie and then lever it over the base. I may have to do that two or three times if it needs to be really tight. Sometimes the zip tie will break from the stress. That is one or two clicks past too tight. : ) Please note that in many applications the zip tie should be left loose enough to rotate around whatever it's holding. Examples are wires, hoses and small radius applications that stress the zip tie. Fork boots as an example should have zip ties tight enough to not rotate but not so tight they deform the boot around the zip tie. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Free information on becoming a Graphic Designer. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3huH8ngqEooSJUzi4cn7OUOrTenCWKGSN6idqz5GlnkPafS/

Posted: **Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:53 am**

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos Rigdon" wrote:

> > Anyone know of a good zip tie tension tool that is reasonably priced

that

> actually works > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

If you want it real tight, after installing and snugging the tie, use a flat-tip/slotted screwdriver against the buckle and pull on the tail with pliers. You can also buy cable tie tensioning tools. Alan

Posted: **Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:19 am**

A related note on zip ties: Not all are created equal. The originator of zip ties is a company called Thomas & Betts, who made them for aircraft applications. The original uses a stainless steel gripper and there are no serrations on the tie surface, allowing for infinite adjustability (the gripper just digs into the plastic at whatever position you prefer). The plastic material of the tie is also much stronger than most others. http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/002980.php

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-- Blake Sobiloff http://www.sobiloff.com/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:34 pm**

I use zip ties at work periodically, and we usually cut the 'tails' off once they are tightened. My tool of choice for both tightening and cutting is a pair of electrical side cutters. To tighten the zip tie: after threading the tail through the head and snugging it up, grab the tail with the side cutters with the flat side of the tool against the head and twist the tool against the head, pulling the tail through. You can actually tension the zip tie pretty tight without breaking it. Once you have it as tight as you want, just give the cutters an extra squeeze to trim the tail off flush with the head. This cleans up the tie, and if done correctly, doesn't leave any tie to cut yourself on later. If any of this needs clarification, let me know and I'll try to post some pictures of the process. Warren -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Seward, NE 2005 KLR650 1980 SR500D --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "aphampton628" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos Rigdon" > wrote: > > > > Anyone know of a good zip tie tension tool that is reasonably priced > that > > actually works > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > If you want it real tight, after installing and snugging the tie, use > a flat-tip/slotted screwdriver against the buckle and pull on the tail > with pliers. You can also buy cable tie tensioning tools. > > Alan >

Posted: **Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:05 pm**

SnapOn (actually Blue Point) makes a nifty little nylon pistol grip tool that does a pretty good job of cinching up cable ties. It gets 'em nice and tight, but you will need your side cutters or what have you to cut off the tails. I have couple of friends that used to work for the AT&T Longlines group (microwave) that had these trick stainless tools that cinched 'em down to a specific tightness and then cut off the tails. Buddy bseifert71@...

> [Original Message] > From: knightsabre75 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 12/13/2008 1:35:00 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Zip Tie Tools > > I use zip ties at work periodically, and we usually cut the 'tails' > off once they are tightened. My tool of choice for both tightening > and cutting is a pair of electrical side cutters. > To tighten the zip tie: after threading the tail through the head and > snugging it up, grab the tail with the side cutters with the flat side > of the tool against the head and twist the tool against the head, > pulling the tail through. You can actually tension the zip tie pretty > tight without breaking it. Once you have it as tight as you want, > just give the cutters an extra squeeze to trim the tail off flush with > the head. This cleans up the tie, and if done correctly, doesn't > leave any tie to cut yourself on later. > > If any of this needs clarification, let me know and I'll try to post > some pictures of the process. > > > Warren > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Seward, NE > 2005 KLR650 > 1980 SR500D > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "aphampton628" > wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos Rigdon" > > wrote: > > > > > > Anyone know of a good zip tie tension tool that is reasonably priced > > that > > > actually works > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > If you want it real tight, after installing and snugging the tie, use > > a flat-tip/slotted screwdriver against the buckle and pull on the tail > > with pliers. You can also buy cable tie tensioning tools. > > > > Alan > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Posted: **Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:23 am**

I don't think I've tried the SnapOn version but the company I work for has had several different makes over the years and we have always for one reason or the other gone back to linesmens pliers. We did have one that worked quite well, can't remember who it was made by, perhaps it was Ideal but it seems to me that it either didn't work for very long or it was just to inconvient to use, a lot of them only seemed to work well if you had lots of space that never seems to exist in most control cabinets. A couple of personal preference things, Thomas & Betts TY Wraps are better then any other type I've used hands down, the stainless steel retaining tab makes the difference, I still see control cabinets I built over 20 years ago with the TyWraps intact. The second thing would be cutting the tails off with sidecutters, I prefer not to do it. Since the cutting surfaces are sharpened from both sides any cut with them leaves a sharp edge on the end of the tail. I use a set of the end cutting plyers that are ground flat on the outside edge so the cut surface on the end that is left over is flat and because of the way they pliers are made the cut surface is just flush so you can rub you hand over it without getting cut. Have a great day Greg.

--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Harry Seifert wrote: From: Harry Seifert Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Zip Tie Tools To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Received: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:05 PM SnapOn (actually Blue Point) makes a nifty little nylon pistol grip tool that does a pretty good job of cinching up cable ties. It gets 'em nice and tight, but you will need your side cutters or what have you to cut off the tails. I have couple of friends that used to work for the AT&T Longlines group (microwave) that had these trick stainless tools that cinched 'em down to a specific tightness and then cut off the tails. Buddy bseifert71@mindspri ng.com > [Original Message] > From: knightsabre75 > To: > Date: 12/13/2008 1:35:00 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Zip Tie Tools > > I use zip ties at work periodically, and we usually cut the 'tails' > off once they are tightened. My tool of choice for both tightening > and cutting is a pair of electrical side cutters. > To tighten the zip tie: after threading the tail through the head and > snugging it up, grab the tail with the side cutters with the flat side > of the tool against the head and twist the tool against the head, > pulling the tail through. You can actually tension the zip tie pretty > tight without breaking it. Once you have it as tight as you want, > just give the cutters an extra squeeze to trim the tail off flush with > the head. This cleans up the tie, and if done correctly, doesn't > leave any tie to cut yourself on later. > > If any of this needs clarification, let me know and I'll try to post > some pictures of the process. > > > Warren > -=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=- > Seward, NE > 2005 KLR650 > 1980 SR500D > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "aphampton628" > wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Carlos Rigdon" > > wrote: > > > > > > Anyone know of a good zip tie tension tool that is reasonably priced > > that > > > actually works > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > If you want it real tight, after installing and snugging the tie, use > > a flat-tip/slotted screwdriver against the buckle and pull on the tail > > with pliers. You can also buy cable tie tensioning tools. > > > > Alan > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links > > > __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:55 am**

Although I was out riding the last two days (50F+), we are back in the monsoons prior to the normal deep freeze, great time of year to watch motorcycle movies and make plans for next summer. If you have any good websites, let me know. I was looking at helmet cams and for ~$250, I could rig one up to an existing small camcorder and give it a try. It seems that weight and battery life are the big issues. Just wondering what others have done, equipment-wise . It's less expensive if you're not the trail blazer. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > At 12:07 AM +0000 12/16/08, Spike55 wrote: > >Mark Van Horn - Do you have anything home-ground? > > I haven't done jack in a while; too busy playing keep-up with my > previously-neglected house and now I'm into this slalom kayaking > thing. > However, I took part in a video that was shot of a 3-day regional PA > ride last summer. The rough cut was about 45 minutes, but I think > it's in the process of being trimmed for a better 30 minute version. > The guy who shot/edited it is Ben Salazar; I think he's on this > forum. If not, I'll see what he's up to. > > Mark >

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