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sprocket swap

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:55 am
by Tumu Rock
Just wanted to post a quick note on my recent sprocket swap. I went with a 45 tooth rear and got have each of the 14, 15 , and 16 tooth front sprockets. I was running 15/45 for a while and it is a fully functional go-anywhere kind of gearing. A little more pep in the step without adding too much to the RPM/speed ratio. Slightly higher RPMs at a given speed compared to stock. I then swapped out to the 16/45 for a recent trip down to NYC and found that combo works really well for me for longer distances. It is slightly lower in the revs for any given speed (approximately 100 RPMs lower at 75 mph compared to stock) without requiring too much clutch abuse in the stop and go, and then go around, traffic of the NYC area. That being said, I look forward to trying the 14/45 combo in some off- road situations in the near future (snow be damned). Depending on how that goes, I may ditch the 15 tooth front and just swap between the 14 and 16. FWIW, the 16 and 45 tooth sprockets are Studebaker. We'll see how long they last. I was not overly impressed with the fact that 16 tooth sprocket comes with a spacer for the outside of the sprocket instead of being machined with a shoulder on both sides. That means the contact area of the sprocket splines with countershaft splines is slightly less than a properly machined sprocket. The 14 tooth, from Sunstar, and 15 tooth, from JT Sprockets, both have the appropriate shoulders on both sides. I'm sure there are other brands of 16 tooth sprockets that also have the shoulder and I would personally recommend those over the Studebaker. Even if you don't care about the spline depth/contact area on the sprocket, having a spacer is just one more piece to drop in the dirt if you plan on swapping back and forth. da Vermonster

sprocket swap

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:15 pm
by Spike55
Could you 'flesh out' an important part of your set-up, which pertains to the chain. Nearly from the beginning, I've used a 44T/15T with the stock chain but I think that I would run out of chain length with a 45T rear. Tell us about the chain / amount of adjustment. Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tumu Rock" wrote: > > Just wanted to post a quick note on my recent sprocket swap. I went > with a 45 tooth rear and got have each of the 14, 15 , and 16 tooth > front sprockets. I was running 15/45 for a while and it is a fully > functional go-anywhere kind of gearing. A little more pep in the > step without adding too much to the RPM/speed ratio. Slightly higher > RPMs at a given speed compared to stock. > > I then swapped out to the 16/45 for a recent trip down to NYC and > found that combo works really well for me for longer distances. It > is slightly lower in the revs for any given speed (approximately 100 > RPMs lower at 75 mph compared to stock) without requiring too much > clutch abuse in the stop and go, and then go around, traffic of the > NYC area. > > That being said, I look forward to trying the 14/45 combo in some off- > road situations in the near future (snow be damned). Depending on > how that goes, I may ditch the 15 tooth front and just swap between > the 14 and 16. > > FWIW, the 16 and 45 tooth sprockets are Studebaker. We'll see how > long they last. I was not overly impressed with the fact that 16 > tooth sprocket comes with a spacer for the outside of the sprocket > instead of being machined with a shoulder on both sides. That means > the contact area of the sprocket splines with countershaft splines is > slightly less than a properly machined sprocket. The 14 tooth, from > Sunstar, and 15 tooth, from JT Sprockets, both have the appropriate > shoulders on both sides. I'm sure there are other brands of 16 tooth > sprockets that also have the shoulder and I would personally > recommend those over the Studebaker. Even if you don't care about the > spline depth/contact area on the sprocket, having a spacer is just > one more piece to drop in the dirt if you plan on swapping back and > forth. > > da Vermonster >

sprocket swap

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:36 pm
by kl650a@verizon.net
The 45T rear sprocket will work with either the stock 106 link or a 108 link chain. The 108 link chain with a 47T rear sprocket places the rear wheel in exactly the same place as the stock 106 link chain with a 43T rear sprocket. The only combinations you may not be able to use with the 45T rear sprocket are in combination with the 13T or 17T front since you cannot have a 107 link chain which would be the perfect length. Walt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Spike55 wrote: > Could you 'flesh out' an important part of your set-up, which pertains to the chain. Nearly from the beginning, I've used a 44T/15T with the stock chain but I think that I would run out of chain length with a 45T rear. Tell us about the chain / amount of adjustment. Don R100, A6F [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

sprocket swap

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:03 pm
by Spike55
I guess I'll stick with the 44T/15T for now (14K on the OEM 106 chain). This 'fire & forget' set-up seems to work for me in mild dirt and two-lane roads without getting greasy. Thanks Don R100, A6F
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, kl650a@... wrote: > > > The 45T rear sprocket will work with either the stock > 106 link or a 108 link chain. The 108 link chain with > a 47T rear sprocket places the rear wheel in exactly > the same place as the stock 106 link chain with a > 43T rear sprocket. The only combinations you may > not be able to use with the 45T rear sprocket are in > combination with the 13T or 17T front since you cannot > have a 107 link chain which would be the perfect length. > > Walt > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Spike55 wrote: > > > Could you 'flesh out' an important part of your set-up, which > pertains to the chain. Nearly from the beginning, I've used a > 44T/15T with the stock chain but I think that I would run out of > chain length with a 45T rear. Tell us about the chain / amount of > adjustment. > > Don R100, A6F > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

no response to my question? ! steering column bearings.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:27 pm
by SCOTT STABOLITO
Didn't we just have somebody with the same question a couple of weeks ago? I believe that he was steered to a step-by-step R and R for the headset and forks on UTube. The guy in the video had numerous maintainence videos specificly on a KLR 650. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

sprocket swap

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:12 pm
by Tumu Rock
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote:
> > Could you 'flesh out' an important part of your set-up, which > pertains to the chain. Nearly from the beginning, I've used a > 44T/15T with the stock chain but I think that I would run out of > chain length with a 45T rear. Tell us about the chain / amount of > adjustment. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tumu Rock" wrote: > I went with a 45 tooth rear and got have each of the 14, 15 , and
16 tooth front sprockets. Don, I'm using a 108 link chain but looks like it would work with a 106 links. It might be more difficult to connect with the master link with only 106 but I'm thinking about doing it. Right now, with the 16/45 on, I'm on the 3rd adjustment hash mark from the front. Haven't had a chance to try the 14/45 yet, but it's gonna be close to the end of adjustability I suspect. I'll let you know when I make the switch to the 14 tooth front. da Vermonster