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Barack Obama is no socialist. The label is pure campaign spin. However, it could be applied just as easily to Sen. McCain, as this article-excerpt demonstrates. (The source is the New Yorker magazine. No one has disputed the facts or quotes.) During the 2000 campaign, on MSNBC s Hardball, a young woman asked him why her father, a doctor, should be penalized by being in a huge tax bracket. McCain replied that wealthy people can afford more and that the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don t pay nearly as much as you think they do. The exchange continued: YOUNG WOMAN: Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?. . . MCCAIN: Here s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more ________________________________

> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: lourd_baltimore@... > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:05:00 -0700 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR Socialist (was: McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent.) > > > The terms "socialism" and "socialist" have been thrown around a lot in Sen. Obama's direction. > I tend to dislike these sound-bite labels as they tend to redefine our language to suit the needs of propaganda. > Slow-roasted newspeak I guess you can call it. > However, take a look at the Socialist Party and their candidate for this election: > http://www.votesocialist2008.org/ > http://www.votebrianmoore.com/ > > If the real Socialists don't consider Sen. Obama to be their candidate, then why listen to the pundits who do not speak for them? > > BTW: Gandalf for President '08 > . > > ________________________________ > From: Eric Foster > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:32:28 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. > > I don't usually chime in on the pol. crap, but here goes. I can't > believe how many have drank the Koolaid and are ready to just fall under > the mesmerizing chants of a marxist/socialist. He is ass backwards on > the American dream, he hangs with friends who don't just have shady > backgrounds, but people with evil back grounds. He hangs with those who > attempt to blow up the pentagon and kill police, he had an anti-jew and > political bomber for a baby sitter. He has a spriritual leader who feels > that America created the aids virus to kill colored folk. He feels the > CONSTITUTION IS WRONG, that it should give more power to government. WTF > are you THINKING??? Is this what our forefathers died for, what my > grandfather spent a life of living hell for? He (and his liberal > minions) is against the 1st and 2nd amendments. Is THIS what we want > for government? > > This 250,000 tax line is BS! Last week Nobama slipped and said 200,000, > last weekend Biden said 150,000. How long before we reach the 42,000 > that he has voted in support of in the past? Tax cuts? My donkey! He's > going to give you up to 1500.00 for a political bribe..... err.... > laziness reward.... err tax credit, yet has already said he will let > Bush's tax breaks sunset next year. That's 3000 more outta your pocket. > I suck at math, but....... > > Bottom line is that I used to work a 7.00 an hour job with under the > table overtime. 20 years later, I make 60k doing 60 plus hours a week of > LABOR, not sitting behind a damn desk or letting the government give it > to me. If someone wants money bad enough, they will find a way. Have > some damn pride.. > > Mccain and Palin aren't the correct answer for what we need, but it's a > sure damn whole lot better than this man with no past who has sealed > every record of his former life. Why? Why do you suppose he is so > secretive? Why does no one get to see his thesis? Can you answer me > that? The man is up to something and the liberals damn well know it. > > You want change? Vote for him and you'll damn well get it. Just don't > cry to me when you find out first hand that Socialism and Marxism don't > work, especially for AMERICA. > > Rant off. > > Lets go RIDE! > > E > > -- > Only crooked politicians fear guns!!! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >

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I know the official Communist USA party are big fans of Obama. How, they endorsed him! http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/975/1/147/ R -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Lourd Baltimore Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:05 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR Socialist (was: McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent.) The terms "socialism" and "socialist" have been thrown around a lot in Sen. Obama's direction. I tend to dislike these sound-bite labels as they tend to redefine our language to suit the needs of propaganda. Slow-roasted newspeak I guess you can call it. However, take a look at the Socialist Party and their candidate for this election: http://www.votesocialist2008.org/ http://www.votebrianmoore.com/ If the real Socialists don't consider Sen. Obama to be their candidate, then why listen to the pundits who do not speak for them? BTW: Gandalf for President '08 . ________________________________ From: Eric Foster To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:32:28 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. I don't usually chime in on the pol. crap, but here goes. I can't believe how many have drank the Koolaid and are ready to just fall under the mesmerizing chants of a marxist/socialist. He is ass backwards on the American dream, he hangs with friends who don't just have shady backgrounds, but people with evil back grounds. He hangs with those who attempt to blow up the pentagon and kill police, he had an anti-jew and political bomber for a baby sitter. He has a spriritual leader who feels that America created the aids virus to kill colored folk. He feels the CONSTITUTION IS WRONG, that it should give more power to government. WTF are you THINKING??? Is this what our forefathers died for, what my grandfather spent a life of living hell for? He (and his liberal minions) is against the 1st and 2nd amendments. Is THIS what we want for government? This 250,000 tax line is BS! Last week Nobama slipped and said 200,000, last weekend Biden said 150,000. How long before we reach the 42,000 that he has voted in support of in the past? Tax cuts? My donkey! He's going to give you up to 1500.00 for a political bribe..... err.... laziness reward.... err tax credit, yet has already said he will let Bush's tax breaks sunset next year. That's 3000 more outta your pocket. I suck at math, but....... Bottom line is that I used to work a 7.00 an hour job with under the table overtime. 20 years later, I make 60k doing 60 plus hours a week of LABOR, not sitting behind a damn desk or letting the government give it to me. If someone wants money bad enough, they will find a way. Have some damn pride.. Mccain and Palin aren't the correct answer for what we need, but it's a sure damn whole lot better than this man with no past who has sealed every record of his former life. Why? Why do you suppose he is so secretive? Why does no one get to see his thesis? Can you answer me that? The man is up to something and the liberals damn well know it. You want change? Vote for him and you'll damn well get it. Just don't cry to me when you find out first hand that Socialism and Marxism don't work, especially for AMERICA. Rant off. Lets go RIDE! E -- Only crooked politicians fear guns!!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]