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				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:47 am
				by Dakar-Dave
				Went riding a few KLR riders and one of them had no oil - the sad story 
 here:
 
 
http://oregondsr.informe.com/forum/route-4-photos-dt175.html
 
 Dave
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:15 am
				by cdearl1
				Good trip report Dave, nice pix. Thanks! Oregon  has some great country to ride-in. Bummer 
 about the new klr running out of oil.
 
 Charles
 
http://dualsportmotorcycling.com/
 
  
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:16 pm
				by Tengai Mark Van Horn
				At 2:47 PM +0000 8/26/08, Dakar-Dave wrote:
 
 >Went riding a few KLR riders and one of them had no oil
 
  
Wow... how did that happen? Brain fart on oil change, or did it 
 unknowingly bleed out on the ride?
 Either way, looks like Odie took it way better than I would have.
 Nice pix BTW.
 
 Mark
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:31 pm
				by dooden
				That sucks for that poor KLR, wonder if the cams are fuzed to the 
 journals.... Ack. 
 
 But... looking at the pics, gotta wonder whom would stock a bar with 
 that much higher end bottles and some bottles of battery acid, then not 
 have a bottle of Gray Goose or a bottle of Crown Royal ? Shsssss
 
 Wow I thought riding through Upper Michigan had some great views, Wow...
 
 Dooden
 A15 Green Ape (Grid locked in Chicago)
 
 
 
 
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:29 pm
				by Dakar-Dave
				Didn't appear to be any leaks - I don't know the last he checked the 
 oil, but it sure must have burnt through it pretty quickly. 
 
 Sadly I have heard about KLR's burning oil quicker than an Artic 
 heating furnace for years. Luckily mine never did that.
 
 Dave
 
 
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn 
  wrote:
 
 >
 > At 2:47 PM +0000 8/26/08, Dakar-Dave wrote:
  
Went riding a few KLR riders and one of them had no oil - the sad 
 story
 here:
 
 
http://oregondsr.informe.com/forum/route-4-photos-dt175.html
 
 Dave
 
 
 > 
 > Wow... how did that happen? Brain fart on oil change, or did it 
 > unknowingly bleed out on the ride?
 > Either way, looks like Odie took it way better than I would have.
 > Nice pix BTW.
 > 
 > Mark
 > 
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:35 am
				by Dakar-Dave
				Quick up-date:
 
 Regarding Odie's oiless KLR 
 
 Kawasaki are going to pay for all the parts approx $1200 - Odie has 
 to pay for the labour. 
 
 Could have been worse.
 
 Dave
 
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dakar-Dave"  
 wrote:
 
 >
 > Went riding a few KLR riders and one of them had no oil - the sad 
  
story 
 
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:59 pm
				by Ed Dobson
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dakar-Dave"  wrote:
 
Cross your finger's that whoever does it (the individual, not the
 "highly recommended shop") knows what they're doing/is competent. Is
 the labor a fixed quote, or by-the-hour? It would be in Odie's best
 interest to be *know and understand everything* that they are doing to
 overhaul his engine and not assume they will "take care of him". Odie
 should be the boss.
 
 Could have been worse, TBD.
 
 Good luck.
 
 ED,,,,,middle-aged & cynical
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:16 pm
				by boulder_adv_rider
				I couldn't agree more with Ed here.  DO NOT trust someone will take 
 care of you.  With today's pressure to make profit, 
 unmotivated/untrained dealer mechanics (by all means not all of them) 
 and merely take the money and run attitudes, you need to be actively 
 managing the process and people involved.  
 
 When I wasn't in the mood to do the top-end work myself or the 
 research to find someone "reputable", I simply had my local dealer do 
 it.  What a mistake that was.  I felt good talking to them so being 
 new to the area, I decided to give them a go.  Well, they're lazy, 
 incompetent and short-sighted.  Others agree, so I know it's not just 
 me.  Anyway, 5k frowns later and I'm doing it again this time with 
 Schnitz doing the sub work (recommended by [respected] Jeff Saline).  
 Like Ed suggests...I'm the lead mechanic this time and will check all 
 of its work regardless of my trust.  Rebuilds take a lot of time and 
 effort and I don't want to be here (instead of riding) again.
 
 Finally for our own edification, do we know why this new machine ran 
 out of oil?  Did he check it before leaving?  This is my biggest fear 
 with KLR sometimes.  I never had a problem before but after the 
 latest bore and piston job, I find out mine starts burning oil at 5k 
 rpm or higher on a trip far from home (not to mention outside the b/s 
 30-day warranty they offer...during winter!).  
 
 More than once I'd get to my off-road destination and stop to check 
 oil only to see the !#$ker is mid level.  I never had this problem 
 before and it's unacceptable.  I spent $1,100.  I just assume junk 
 the bike before dealing with critical oil burning issues.  This could 
 leave me stranded waaaaaay out of bounds and in trouble with a 
 problem I already knew about...bad juju.  Then again, I don't want to 
 be paranoid and worried about my oil level all day anymore than I 
 want to carry quarts of oil.
 
 Brian
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:44 am
				by AnanthR
				I had a similar problem with my motorcycle recently, but Kawasaki 
 refused to cover any costs in my case. Curious how Kawasaki agreed to 
 cover the parts atleast in your case.
  My dealer quoted me 2500$ to get the bike back working. And it looks 
 from the other posts that it is not such a good idea to get it fixed 
 at the dealer. So any one know of a reasonable option to get the bike 
 fixed in Bay Area, CA ? I certainly cant afford the 2500$ the dealer 
 would take and hate to let go of the bike as scrap.
 
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dakar-Dave"  
 wrote:
 
 
			 
			
					
				running a klr with no oil never ends good
				Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:48 am
				by nakedwaterskier
				Buy an ebay engine and just swap engines.