Wilsons Sandbox

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:02:44 -0000 "hobbhavnklr650" writes:

> I am taking off next week for a few day trip and I don't have backup > tubes. I don't have a lot of time before I leave and was wondering > other than a dealership, where could I expect to find them? Tire > shop, > walmart? I don't know where to to look. I hope to pick them up on > the > way. Thanks. > > Keith > Idaho KLR

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Keith, I'd think you'll need to stop at either a dealer or independent shop to find them. I don't think I've ever seen a tube for a motorcycle at a tire shop or WalMart type store. Another consideration would be to buy patches and related materials and at least have a bit of opportunity for a repair on the side of the road. You can buy patch supplies at WalMart and most automotive parts stores. NAPA has a very nice selection of tire/tube repair items. Heck, NAPA might even carry a tube for a motorcycle. But I bet it has to be ordered (usually 24 hours to get the item) but you'd better know what size you want and the valve stem arrangement. I think the KLR uses a TR-4 valve and you might be able to get by with a TR-6. But that's just off the top of my head while I'm waking up and eating breakfast. Best and safe travels, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Find precision scales that can weigh anything. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mPT3vkAIF8ZT15gCymrFv64Oh8iHCjFg6q03bWky43fwv1C/

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:02:44 -0000 "hobbhavnklr650" > writes: > > I am taking off next week for a few day trip and I don't have backup > > tubes. I don't have a lot of time before I leave and was wondering > > other than a dealership, where could I expect to find them? Tire > > shop, > > walmart? I don't know where to to look. I hope to pick them up on > > the > > way. Thanks. > > > > Keith > > Idaho KLR > <><><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><><> > > Keith, > > I'd think you'll need to stop at either a dealer or independent shop to > find them. I don't think I've ever seen a tube for a motorcycle at a > tire shop or WalMart type store. > > Another consideration would be to buy patches and related materials and > at least have a bit of opportunity for a repair on the side of the road. > You can buy patch supplies at WalMart and most automotive parts stores. > NAPA has a very nice selection of tire/tube repair items. >

It's not a bad idea to carry some patches anyway, for those bad days when you can't get a new tube in without holing it. On the subject of patches, I have learned the hard way to stay away from those rectangular or square ones(Monkey brand is the one I see most often in Wamart and Checker Auto), and stick with the round or oval ones with the feathered edges (also Monkey brand or Reima; no doubt there are others, but those are brands I come across).

I recently posted a long piece entitled "Of mice, men and rolling dice with flat tires", so I'm not going into it again. However, I will say this adventure rider highly recommends carrying fresh front and rear tubes, glue-on and glueless patch kits, small bottle of Slime, tire irons, mini-compressor, backup MTB hand pump or CO2 system). Now, if you're planning on mostly road riding, I think your risks are somewhat lower, so until you get those tubes I'd probably put a quarter of a bottle of Slime in both. This way if you do get a puncture, it'll self- seal and not rip-off your valve stem. Rather it's likely to slowly leak and you'll notice it with daily visual inspection. It's a lot of protection for little effort in my opinion, and this little amount of Slime shouldn't cause any noticeable change in feel/handling. Then keep the remainder of the bottle on board should you need it. As for patches, simply pick-up some at any bicycle shop. They carry glueless Park Super Patches which in a serious pinch (think South America...lonely stretch of road...pouring rain...another story) you can cut the included 6 patches into 4 quadrants for a total of 24. They also carry traditional glue-on patches which I prefer. Also most hardware stores carry glue-on patches. Just note if you use glueless patches, you need to keep the tire inflated well and use them as a temporary solution for extraction-only as over time inflation and deflation over time is likely to be their demise--especially if you're talking quadrants. Then again I've had glue on patches ripped from the tube this last trip which lead to rapid deflation and sheered valve stem. If you can't get tubes prior to leaving, use the internet to find a moto shop along the way. Call or email them and have them get you tubes. Even pay with credit card and have them leave them out back or somewhere if they'll be closed when you arrive (if you're pinch/hurry). Of course, you could ask someone from the group near you to sell you a set or even borrow them. Just don't forget tire irons! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hobbhavnklr650" wrote:

> > I am taking off next week for a few day trip and I don't have backup > tubes. I don't have a lot of time before I leave and was wondering > other than a dealership, where could I expect to find them? Tire shop, > walmart? I don't know where to to look. I hope to pick them up on the > way. Thanks. > > Keith > Idaho KLR >

Has anyone in the list had experience with using the inflator/ sealer tire repair cans? I once used it (automotive brand) in a tube which had 5 patches (BAD day out!) and the chemical in it caused all the other patches to fall off. This was a challenging day with 6 flsts in a 20 +/- run on pavement. This first nail I picked up off road, the other pieces of "stuff" I found on the road. WIll Slime also cause patches to fall off? Shane --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "boulder_adv_rider" wrote:

> > I recently posted a long piece entitled "Of mice, men and rolling

dice

> with flat tires", so I'm not going into it again. However, I will

say

> this adventure rider highly recommends carrying fresh front and

rear

> tubes, glue-on and glueless patch kits, small bottle of Slime, tire > irons, mini-compressor, backup MTB hand pump or CO2 system). Now,

if

> you're planning on mostly road riding, I think your risks are

somewhat

> lower, so until you get those tubes I'd probably put a quarter of a > bottle of Slime in both. This way if you do get a puncture, it'll

self-

> seal and not rip-off your valve stem. Rather it's likely to slowly > leak and you'll notice it with daily visual inspection. It's a lot

of

> protection for little effort in my opinion, and this little amount

of

> Slime shouldn't cause any noticeable change in feel/handling. Then > keep the remainder of the bottle on board should you need it. > > As for patches, simply pick-up some at any bicycle shop. They

carry

> glueless Park Super Patches which in a serious pinch (think South > America...lonely stretch of road...pouring rain...another story)

you

> can cut the included 6 patches into 4 quadrants for a total of 24. > They also carry traditional glue-on patches which I prefer. Also

most

> hardware stores carry glue-on patches. Just note if you use

glueless

> patches, you need to keep the tire inflated well and use them as a > temporary solution for extraction-only as over time inflation and > deflation over time is likely to be their demise--especially if

you're

> talking quadrants. Then again I've had glue on patches ripped from

the

> tube this last trip which lead to rapid deflation and sheered valve > stem. > > If you can't get tubes prior to leaving, use the internet to find a > moto shop along the way. Call or email them and have them get you > tubes. Even pay with credit card and have them leave them out back

or

> somewhere if they'll be closed when you arrive (if you're > pinch/hurry). Of course, you could ask someone from the group near

you

> to sell you a set or even borrow them. Just don't forget tire > irons! > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "hobbhavnklr650" > wrote: > > > > I am taking off next week for a few day trip and I don't have

backup

> > tubes. I don't have a lot of time before I leave and was wondering > > other than a dealership, where could I expect to find them? Tire

shop,

> > walmart? I don't know where to to look. I hope to pick them up on

the

> > way. Thanks. > > > > Keith > > Idaho KLR > > >

At 12:38 AM +0000 9/14/08, Jud Jones wrote:

>It's not a bad idea to carry some patches anyway, for those bad days >when you can't get a >new tube in without holing it. > >On the subject of patches, I have learned the hard way to stay away >from those rectangular >or square ones(Monkey brand is the one I see most often in Wamart >and Checker Auto), >and stick with the round or oval ones with the feathered edges (also >Monkey brand or >Reima; no doubt there are others, but those are brands I come across).

Yup. Because I use Bridgestone UHD tubes that have been slimed, I don't even carry a spare tube, just Camel brand patches: whoppin' big 3" diameter patches and some smaller ones. Mark

At 11:15 AM -0700 9/14/08, kyle wrote:

>How do you guys patch a tube that has slime in it? >I can`t help to think it would make it extremely difficult?

Slime is water soluble and non-toxic. Just rinse or lick it clean, wipe it dry and patch. Mark

Slime won't remove properly glued patches. I doubt it would remove Park Super glueless patches either, but I haven't tried this. In any case, if we're talking small hole(s) less than 1/8" the Slime would instantly fill a failing patch anyway. So I wouldn't care if the patch came off anyway. If you wipe dry/clean and rough the surface prior to gluing, the patch will bond properly without problem. Now, I'm not sure many do this, but I'm beginning to use talc powder to install and prevent tube/tire 'interaction.' If you use Monkey Butt powder, I'm sure it would double duty here, but I'm talking pure frangrance-free talc. The dry talc aids tire installation and allows the tube to slip a bit in the carcass which might help prevent valve sheer. Ultimately, I feel the best anti-flat protection setup seems to be (1) vigilant monitoring for proper tire inflation (2) put a half bottle of Slime in front and other half in the rear (so 5.5 oz bottle split between front and rear), but note I'm only using a half bottle split bewtween front/rear and carrying the other half bottle for backup (3) use heavy duty tubes (i.e., Moose). Brian

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, kyle wrote: > > How do you guys patch a tube that has slime in it? > I can`t help to think it would make it extremely difficult? >