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[Ron and Brenda Moorhouse]

I just put a new Kenda on my front wheel and was feeling pretty darn good. No pinches, seated easily, all good. Then I put it back on and the front brake is locked/wheel will not spin; can't get it to release. Thought I was careful not to let anything come out and did not operate the lever intentionally nor accidentally; but it seems mushy and nothing releases. Clueless with this kind of thing. Help? Ron Moorhouse Modesto, CA

[Jeff Saline]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Ron and Brenda Moorhouse writes:

> I just put a new Kenda on my front wheel and was feeling pretty darn > good. No pinches, seated easily, all good. Then I put it back > on and the front brake is locked/wheel will not spin; can't get it > to release. Thought I was careful not to let anything come out and > did not operate the lever intentionally nor accidentally; but it > seems mushy and nothing releases. Clueless with this kind of > thing. Help? > > Ron Moorhouse > Modesto, CA

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Ron, Maybe remove the caliper at the two mounting bolts. Slide the caliper off the rotor and then see that the wheel spins freely. Also are you sure the speedo drive hub seated correctly and isn't causing the problem? Once you are sure the wheel spins freely without the caliper installed try installing the caliper. Make sure you are slipping it over the rotor so one pad is on each side of the rotor. Line up the bolt holes and install the mounting bolts. Torque on the bolts is 18 foot pounds or 216 inch pounds. Then test it again and see if it's free. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Save on airline tickets - click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMQlukObd1jNil7s8cDAwsX29frltfOejhTDkjyQWETPKBG/

[Ron and Brenda Moorhouse]

----- Original Message ---- From: Jeff Saline To: rmoorhou@... Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:27:23 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Brake Lock On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Ron and Brenda Moorhouse writes:

> I just put a new Kenda on my front wheel and was feeling pretty darn > good. No pinches, seated easily, all good. Then I put it back > on and the front brake is locked/wheel will not spin; can't get it > to release. Thought I was careful not to let anything come out and > did not operate the lever intentionally nor accidentally; but it > seems mushy and nothing releases. Clueless with this kind of > thing. Help? > > Ron Moorhouse > Modesto, CA

<><><><><><> <><> <><><><><><> <><> Ron, Maybe remove the caliper at the two mounting bolts. Slide the caliper off the rotor and then see that the wheel spins freely. Also are you sure the speedo drive hub seated correctly and isn't causing the problem? Once you are sure the wheel spins freely without the caliper installed try installing the caliper. Make sure you are slipping it over the rotor so one pad is on each side of the rotor. Line up the bolt holes and install the mounting bolts. Torque on the bolts is 18 foot pounds or 216 inch pounds. Then test it again and see if it's free. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT Jeff: As always, thanks for the expert advice. I do not know why but I seem to be a bit afraid of the brake components. I took off the caliber as you directed and found things were hanging up a bit all the way around. Took the pads and spring mechanism out; cleaned it all up a bit and put it back together. All is Good! Going riding/fishing tomorrow thru Sunday in the Sierras. Thought I was going to be stuck in "Lodi". Regards, Ron ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Save on airline tickets - click here. http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/Ioyw6i3nMQluk Obd1jNil7s8cDAws X29frltfOejhTDkj yQWETPKBG/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[boulder_adv_rider]

I'd follow what Jeff suggests. Most likely it's a brake pad issue. It's possible to bump a brake pad when reistalling the wheel and fitting the rotor into the caliper between the pads and it binds in some out-of-position way. Jeffs, recommendation find/should fix this. I've bound my rear wheel when the outer pad (closetest to the piston) got lodged when hitting it with the rotor upon re-installation. Of course it seems the wheel mounts fine and all is good but once you spin it by hand or engage the rear brake you realize it's not working properly. This is why it's very important to check for "free" wheel spin and proper brake feel before taking to the trail or track! And as reminder to KLRistas....if you change pads or otherwise compress the brake piston for more room between pads, make sure you energize the hydraulic lines before riding. As a greenhorn on my first race bike, I didn't energize the front brake to seat some new pads. I'll never forget going waaaaaay deep into a corner with spongey bob #hit my pants front brakes! I assure you coming in hot, banking low and hard left and trying to bleed speed with your rear brake only...crickey!...it'll wig you out. Same thing relying on the KLR. If your hydraulics aren't energized and you have to suddenly stop, it could be very dangerous situation. Think of riding down your street and a child runs out in front. You need instant stopping power not a deadly delay trying to pump/energize.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Ron and Brenda Moorhouse > writes: > > I just put a new Kenda on my front wheel and was feeling pretty darn > > good. No pinches, seated easily, all good. Then I put it back > > on and the front brake is locked/wheel will not spin; can't get it > > to release. Thought I was careful not to let anything come out and > > did not operate the lever intentionally nor accidentally; but it > > seems mushy and nothing releases. Clueless with this kind of > > thing. Help? > > > > Ron Moorhouse > > Modesto, CA > <><><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><><> > > Ron, > > Maybe remove the caliper at the two mounting bolts. Slide the caliper > off the rotor and then see that the wheel spins freely. Also are you > sure the speedo drive hub seated correctly and isn't causing the problem? > > Once you are sure the wheel spins freely without the caliper installed > try installing the caliper. Make sure you are slipping it over the rotor > so one pad is on each side of the rotor. Line up the bolt holes and > install the mounting bolts. Torque on the bolts is 18 foot pounds or 216 > inch pounds. Then test it again and see if it's free. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > ____________________________________________________________ > Save on airline tickets - click here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMQlukObd1jNil7s8cD AwsX29frltfOejhTDkjyQWETPKBG/ >

[Bogdan Swider]

Got this tip from this very list years ago: Take a clothes pin apart. After you take the caliper off, insert the pieces between the pads to keep them in position. I now keep an apart clothes pin with my tire changing stuff. Bogdan, who wonders if Heloise was on the list back then On 9/11/08 12:33 PM, "boulder_adv_rider" wrote:

> > > > I'd follow what Jeff suggests. Most likely it's a brake pad issue. > > It's possible to bump a brake pad when reistalling the wheel and > fitting the rotor into the caliper between the pads and it binds in > some out-of-position way. Jeffs, recommendation find/should fix > this. >

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[Ron and Brenda Moorhouse]

Sounds like another good tip. After I realized what I had done to cause the problem, I found some wooden shims in my garage and cut one up to use in a fashion similar to the clothes pin method you offered. Except I didnt know they still made those things! I think I will go get some though, as that sounds like a more secure way than the shims I cut up. Ron Moorhouse Modesto, CA ----- Original Message ---- From: Bogdan Swider To: boulder_adv_rider ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:37:27 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Brake Lock Got this tip from this very list years ago: Take a clothes pin apart. After you take the caliper off, insert the pieces between the pads to keep them in position. I now keep an apart clothes pin with my tire changing stuff. Bogdan, who wonders if Heloise was on the list back then On 9/11/08 12:33 PM, "boulder_adv_ rider" wrote:

> > > > I'd follow what Jeff suggests. Most likely it's a brake pad issue. > > It's possible to bump a brake pad when reistalling the wheel and > fitting the rotor into the caliper between the pads and it binds in > some out-of-position way. Jeffs, recommendation find/should fix > this. >

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[Jim Douglas]

grbhfng wrote:

> > > I look at riding like flying, but low all the time. > Like I say, other bikes have riders, KLR's have pilots. > > It's not a "Joy Ride", it's a "Check Flight" > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Russell Scott > wrote: > > From: Russell Scott > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR tanner > To: "KListeRs" > > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:08 PM > > I know many of these fighters get hooked on steroids, and other types of > "enhancement" drugs. I wonder if that may have played a role. Maybe > depression or suicidal thoughts. Seems like a number of these types have > been having bad and early endings to their lives lately. > > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:DSN_ KLR650@yahoogro ups.com]On > Behalf Of Charlie Y > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:46 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR tanner > > Seriously, at least 1 out of 5 and maybe as many as 1 in 3 , > of the general public, (myself and all of us included) are > complete fucking retards sometimes. Those that aren't, all the time, > are 20%-33.3% of the time, anyway.You can see it out on the road every > day. > (in Massachusetts anyway) > > You should see the idiots that kill or seriously > injure themselves and their families > (footnote: ref: C. Darwin) out on the water in boats. > KLRiding across a desert is like sailing single-handed > across an ocean. Any one of a couple million stupid > little mistakes could have fatal results. > > Look at the guys who build and fly their own ultralight > airplanes. You either got to have some of the the biggest cojones > out there or really really pay careful attention to all > those little things that could ring your bell. > Just think, a slight power sag on take-off might be all it would take. > It's called "experience" ,the more you've got, the more YOU KNOW what > some of the crucial requirements are and what problems could be > encountered. > I look at riding like flying but low all the time. > In the desert you've pretty much had it, if you > don't even think far enough ahead to save your LIFE. > > I'd at least have the wifey follow me with a Hummer , some cold beer, > and a satellite phone to call the heli. > > -- charlie.... trying to get down into the 20s. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "albatrossklr" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:19 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] NKLR tanner > > > Each day we make choices; some of us make mistakes. > > > > > > albatross > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

Actually if I recall the UFC guy's have drug tests more than you would think, Dana believes that one incident of drugs with the guy's would hurt the $$$ associated with the game he is playing, thus the constant drug testing of anyone associated with the UFC, from what I recall from the story, on TV a while back, everyone is checked from the gal in accounting, to the corner guys, drugs, sterioids the works! That said, it could also be the case where there is 'something' they can take that hides it from the tests but what I do like is the fact that the guy is charge is 100% committed to testing and getting rid of the folks who do fail!