riding with your brother

[Horton Oliphant]

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[Horton Oliphant]

I believe that email goes directly to the list without being reviewed. Some times emails fall through the cracks and either don't make it to the list or don't make it back out to some listers. If your not selling something, your not being a vendor. People recommend things all the time. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa less that 100 miles this year. Bah humbug! Monte Cunningham wrote:

> To whoever reads through these responses before they get posted: > Was my post yesterday, (9-9-08 at 10:18pm) which did not get posted, on > using the SPOT for safety when going into dangerous situations > considered to be a "Vendor post?". It has been 24 hours since I > responded on the death of a fellow rider in the desert. As I said in the > note I am not selling anything, just pointing out a tool that will make > riding safer. > Monte

[boulder_adv_rider]

Monte, I got your email but never saw the board post. SPOT seems intriguing but I haven't field-tested it myself for efficacy. I read one review that said something like..."you better have an emergency on top of a mountain and in clear view of the sky or otherwise it's not reliable." Anyway, I'm not sure what to think myself, but I like the concept. It's similar to ACR's locator but different. We talked EPIRBs awhile ago, but I think it's fine to remind listas/newbies there are devices like this out there. Personally, a detailed ride, flight or paddle plan have always worked for me. But there are times where 100% an EPIRB-type device is mandatory. It gives me the confidence to focus on the mission or simply enjoying things knowing plans are in place if $hit hits the fan. My written plans take several hours to initially develop and include names and telephone numbers of local SAR, authorities, etc. The last thing your buddy (and designated back-up!) need is wasting time trying to find-out who and what numbers to dial! I even go as far as listing everything I'm carrying so SAR can assess my survivability and self-rescue capabilities. Plan objectives and any other variances, etc. are critical to identifying timely your location. Of course, SPOT could really help here. The bottom-line is accidents happen. A severe injury is one thing; not knowing where the hell you are or where to start looking is another. After Aaron Ralston lost his arm and nearly his life, I realized his anguish...and the simplicity and brilliance of a good plan. Technology isn't always the answer but then again sometimes it's the best. To those that think technology is a waste, well, capsize in the Berring Sea and spend some time adrift in 35F water, and I can assure you a $1,000 submersion-activated EPIRB is the best money ever spent! Then again, I can think of a sat phone being the best option in some cases. The point is your planning should dictate your best options, equipment, etc. After this your survival training is all you got. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Horton Oliphant wrote:

> > I believe that email goes directly to the list without being

reviewed.

> Some times emails fall through the cracks and either don't make it

to

> the list or don't make it back out to some listers. If your not

selling

> something, your not being a vendor. People recommend things all the

time.

> Alan Henderson A13 Iowa less that 100 miles this year. Bah

humbug!

> Monte Cunningham wrote: > > To whoever reads through these responses before they get posted: > > Was my post yesterday, (9-9-08 at 10:18pm) which did not get

posted, on

> > using the SPOT for safety when going into dangerous situations > > considered to be a "Vendor post?". It has been 24 hours since I > > responded on the death of a fellow rider in the desert. As I said

in the

> > note I am not selling anything, just pointing out a tool that

will make

> > riding safer. > > Monte >

[Jim Douglas]

Ron Moorhouse wrote:

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "kusstj" > > > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:08:51 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] riding with your brother > > > Riding with a brother . . . > I try to get a few rides in with one of my brothers when I can. > We're all heading into mid life these days and must take the > opportunity to ride for the sake of riding when we can. You know, > sometimes it is tough to get the time to just ride for the sake of > riding. And if you can't take time to get a ride in with your > brother once in a while . . . well, why ride at all? > This is a true story I heard from a fellow lister, but I can't recall > his name. So it is his story I am trying to recall and share, not > mine. I did correspond with him with a personal email though after > he shared his story on the KLR list. It was a true story about > riding with his brother. > He recalled riding with his brother. And that this ride was > different. His brother typically liked to ride fast and so it was a > pain to try to keep up. His brother would never pay much attention > if you complained, or he just tell you to shut up and ride. Sometimes > the brother would complain if you wouldn't keep up or you thought the > trail was lousy. Today he didn't ride too fast. There was no > complaining. > Sometimes the brother would be running low on gas or would stop to > putz with something on his bike. He wouldn't care if you complained > that we ought to be riding, he always worked to his own agenda. He > wasn't one to listen to you, and he really couldn't give a crap about > what you thought about him. Sometimes he would take the lead and > then take a strange turn. You never knew where he was headed. He > really didn't care if you wanted to get to the destination. He rode > wherever the hell he felt like going. > The lister told how today the ride went smooth. There were no > complaints. Things were quiet and the ride went like clockwork. The > were no problems with the bikes. We had plenty of gas. We arrived at > our destination without incident. > His brother wasn't one for small talk. He was his own man. If you > wanted to go for a ride fine. But he wasn't going to wait around > for you if you were late. Sometimes he'd be an ass and let you know > if he thought you didn't know anything about bikes or how to ride. > If you didn't fix or maintain your bike they way he would have, he'd > let you know. If you took too long to work on something, he'd ride > you and give you a hard time. > Today's ride was different. There was no disagreement. Somehow > today was a peaceful ride with his brother. > The ride ended at a favorite destination in the country. A place > they would go where they could relax, breath country air, ride > trails, putter with the bikes, hang out with the campfire, and let > some peaceful time pass. > And this is the best I can recall of this fellow KLR listers > story. . . > After arriving at their favorite destination, he took the urn > holding his brother's ashes and spread them, some on the main drive > in, some on the trails, some by the creek, some where they would sit > by the campfire pit. Today things were peaceful. > His brother had issues and demons he had battled for many years. Now > the battles were over. > > I'll never forget this guy sharing his story. It reminds me, I need > to give my brother a call. > Peace > Todd in Chaska, A16 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

Does anyone but me expect to see at the end of theposting something like ,,,,,,,,, Send this message to all your brothers and sisters and if you don't they will have bad luck.............