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[Bogdan Swider]

Guys, enough is enough. The posts below violate the list s rules. Fight it out off list. Again here is what the list elders carried down from Mount Sinai: Please adhere to the three following guidelines for the list: 1. NO personal attacks. Keep opinions as objective discussions. 2. Please use NKLR in the subject line for any off topic discussions so people may filter their email if so desired. 3. Please use Vendor in the subject line for any Vendor posts on Fridays so people may filter their email if so desired. What about these statements is not clear ? Bogdan

On 9/10/08 12:30 PM, "Reverend" wrote: > > > > If I managed to properly unscramble your 2nd grade grammar, spelling and > syntax, I think you're trying to say that you're upset that someone you've > likely never met or even spoken to, who was allegedly an alcoholic, among > other things, made a mistake fatal to HIM. > Then somehow you're thinking that pointing this out makes me into the Big > Bad Wolf. > When they finally release you in "the wild", you'll get a shock. > > Get this - if he had been drinking and driving and killed someone, would he > still be your hero? Is he a hero for riding a KLR? What exactly did he do > to earn respect? Since you apparently didn't read the article, let me recap: > He decided to take off into the desert on a bike, on his own, with no > mention of proper gear, proper training or proper contingency plans. > It cost him his life. He paid a high price for his stupidity. > > As for your requests; > 1, I doubt you'd change your name from "Scott" because someone said you're > insensitive. If I were to change, perhaps you could suggest a less > insensitive name for me. Joe? Eddie? > > 2, I think in "Reading for Comprehension 101" they have some offerings that > might help you follow along a bit. Some people thought I was our esteemed > "revmaatin" so I put, at the bottom of my posts a little pointer ensuring > the separation atwixt us. > > Read the last five words above as many times as you like. ASCII rarely wear > out. > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > Behalf Of SCOTT STABOLITO >> > >> > ya' know what? for the first time since joining this list i'm actually >> > ashamed to be linked to a certain few (Reverend!!),who has >> > probably never.....made anything remotely resembling a brain-fart >> > decision about riding.Pull your head out of your pie-hole,unless you >> > enjoy suffering from "chronic cranial-rectumitis!!! You're nothing but >> > a pimple on a pigs ass!!!,Mr.Reverend!!! Show a little respect and >> > compassion for those who have left >> > us. >> > R.I.P. >> > Mr.EvanTanner (one of UFC's finest ) >> > >> > >> > Oh,and >> > I do have two requests: 1. Please,change the name of "Reverend" if you >> > insist on continuing to be the ignorant and insensitive lout you have >> > been in the past. >> > 2.Please,if you decide to ignore request 1, at the very least, stop >> > tarnishing the name of the man and fellow KLRista "revmaatin",by >> > including his name next to yours!!!! He has done more to aid the rest >> > of in our endless endevor to make our KLR's,just a little bit better or >> > more functional than they alredy are!!!! >> > Thank you, > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bryan Burke]

I have to agree with what the other Brian just posted. I hike and ride in southern Arizona. Once the temps go over 110 during the day, it simply isn't feasible to carry enough water on foot or on a motorcycle to venture more than a few hours on foot from re-supply. You don't even realize how fast you're losing it because the evaporation rate is so high, and even dozing in the shade you're still pushing it out at a high rate. Five gallons of water weighs about 40 pounds. If you break your machine 100 miles from help or water (30 hours of walking) you just might make it out with that amount of water by hiking mostly at night and the first couple hours of the day, and laying up in deep shade during the hottest hours. That's two nights, one day, 100 miles. Even someone in fighting shape might find that a long walk. Based on his post, I'd be surprised to find that he had that much water, or cached any on the way in. Stay out of the desert in summer, that's about the best plan! From what I've read dying of thirst is agonizing, so I don't want to go that way. For those of you contemplating a little desert solitude, wait until fall or spring. (Winter is nice to, but be ready for freezing temps at night.) As to going solo... I've got good reasons to do so and I think it's a manageable risk if you are prepared. Evan was clearly not prepared: new to the desert, new to the motorcycle... what else didn't he know? And although I agree that it is a good idea to leave a plan (and often, a cache of water!) behind, that doesn't mean you'll be found. Ultimately every trip should be planned on the assumption that there is no safety net.