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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:03:44 -0700 (PDT) David Bell writes:

> I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of > Monterrey. I am going over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have > installed crash bars, skid plate, caribou bags, and plan on an > improved low beam and brake pads and Rotors. I will put in the > doohickey in a couple of weeks. > > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to > carry? > > What else would you take?

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> David, If I was going on a trip like this I would put the new clutch cable on the bike and also a new chain if I didn't have confidence in the one on the bike. I'd also put on new tires so I wouldn't have to mess with worn tires for 5,000 or so miles. For chain repair I'd carry a few master links for the chain that was on the bike. One master link doesn't fit all chains so I'd make sure I had the correct ones. I'd also carry a short section of chain, maybe 10 links. A file would be good to go along with the chain breaker so I could take the end off a pin before removing it. I think a well prepared bike is the best way to prevent mechanical excitement during the trip. I would also take a few supplies like: -radiator stop leak -JB Weld or Kwik (I prefer Kwik as it sets in less than 20 minutes) -tire patch tools and supplies including a 35mm film canister of wheel bearing grease -duct tape wrapped around a small diameter pvc tube to take up less space -bottom of a 5 gallon bucket to act as a wash basin, wheel stand when repairing a flat (rotor fits inside the bucket bottom) and drain pan if needed for a coolant system repair or oil change -tools to remove wheels and address the common fasteners on the KLR -maybe a few spare nuts and bolts probably M6, M8 and maybe M10 -20 to 40 feet of 0.040" stainless safety wire -first aid kit for people -spare inner tubes of the correct size -10 inches of fuel line as a spare and new fuel line on the bike -spare fuses -electrical wire and a couple of wire nuts like used in home wiring -laminated wiring diagram and list of fastener torques I've probably left out something(s) but others can pipe in and make a few suggestions. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Recharge and relax. Click for great vacation ideas. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMAbNKVsWkblz84mxz5qLWC4TODU4eUnbjk6fvynYX3uYVO/

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bell wrote:

> > I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of Monterrey. I am going

over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have installed crash bars, skid plate, caribou bags, and plan on an improved low beam and brake pads and Rotors. I will put in the doohickey in a couple of weeks.

> > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to carry? > > What else would you take? >

I would not take a chain - too heavy. However, a spare master link for your chain and a chain breaker and press are worth having along. This one is compact, yet capable: http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/chain_breaker/ This chain press works and does not take much room. http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/chain_breaker/ I think there may be a simpler and cheaper method for pressing the chain together, which escapes me at the moment. The purpose of the press is to make the side plate bears on the clip with enough pressure to keep it in place.

Have you done the carb vent mod? Replaced your fuses with a blade fuse kit? Considered a smaller drive sprocket? -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN ps - Gee Jud, no karmic prophylaxis?

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Jud Jones wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , David > Bell wrote: > > > > I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of Monterrey. > I am going > over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have installed crash bars, skid plate, > caribou bags, and > plan on an improved low beam and brake pads and Rotors. I will put in the > doohickey in a > couple of weeks. > > > > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to > carry? > > > > What else would you take? > > > > I would not take a chain - too heavy. However, a spare master link for your > chain and a > chain breaker and press are worth having along. This one is compact, yet > capable: > > http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/chain_breaker/ > > This chain press works and does not take much room. > http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/chain_breaker/ > I think there may be a simpler and cheaper method for pressing the chain > together, which > escapes me at the moment. The purpose of the press is to make the side > plate bears on > the clip with enough pressure to keep it in place. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:29:38 -0000 "Jud Jones" writes:

> I would not take a chain - too heavy. However, a spare master link > for your chain and a > chain breaker and press are worth having along. This one is compact, > yet capable: > > http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/chain_breaker/ > > This chain press works and does not take much room. > http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/chain_breaker/ > I think there may be a simpler and cheaper method for pressing the > chain together, which > escapes me at the moment. The purpose of the press is to make the > side plate bears on > the clip with enough pressure to keep it in place.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><><><><> Jud, I'm thinking you pasted the same link twice. I'm guessing this is the link you meant for the chain press. http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/view/mini_chain_press_tool/ That does look like a pretty good combination of tools for chain repair. I'd probably carry a couple of extra pins for the chain breaker too. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT ____________________________________________________________ Need cash? Click to get a loan. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKiwA4xDcLSK0zOw0bsZ8UeQ21mtq63gnxTlYmZGrLx1Lhy/

When you absolutely need a part take Arrowhead Motorsports phone number (435 259 7356) with you. Fred ships worldwide. George Rancho Bernardo, CA David Bell wrote:

> > > I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of Monterrey. > I am going over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have installed crash bars, > skid plate, caribou bags, and plan on an improved low beam and brake > pads and Rotors. I will put in the doohickey in a couple of weeks. > > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to carry? > > What else would you take? > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 8/3/2008 1:00 PM >

maintenance 1. make sure valves and chain tensioner are properly adjusted 2. properly lube all the cables, suspension pivots, wheel bearings 3. start with fresh tires...so far very pleased with Mefos i bought from Fred at Arrowhead tools 1. make sure you bring all the tools necessary to service minor repairs (things like "real" sockets, wrenches, vice grips, etc.) just don't go too crazy...think minimal but necessary. you'll be surprised when you need assistance there are far more people that want to help than hurt. so mentally...bring an open [read: trusting] mind 2. i've never broken a chain but do carry the motion the pro chain tool. check and maintain the proper tension and lube and start with a new chain and you should have no problem, period. i'd replace a worn chain regardless if i were leaving on a long trip. 3. bring a can of chain lube and spray every fuel stop...consider a center stand if you don't have one 4. bring 2 extra air filters that you keep pre-lubbed in plastic zip bags. rotate them so you always have clean air...wash out at hotel, etc and stay prepared. 5. bring air filter cleaner, spray lube and disposable latex gloves 6. bring spare inner tubes, glue and glue-less patch kits, tire irons, and small electric compressor (recommend a 12-volt accessory plug min 15-amp circuit) 7. digital tire pressure guage 8. at home i have a box with most replacement parts someone could mail to me in emergency. otherwise, keep Fred's Arrowhead number handy or just find a local shop for most anything. mods 1. doohickey 2. upgrade the headlight wire/harness, light socket and install a brighter bulb (i run a 90/90) 3. install the turn signal group upgrade kit that allows you to shut- off the headlight (save battery) on starts, etc. 4. replace the stock battery with a gel battery and install it horizontally (easier access and a better battery...imo) 5. bigger windshield to deflect wind (less fatigue) and offer better protection 6. install gel grips and consider doing a mod to reduce even more vibration (i did the birdshot and like the result) 7. get a velcro Throttle Rocker to reduce throttle fatigue ...a whole lot more but you'll have to buy my book.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bell wrote: > > I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of Monterrey. I am going over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have installed crash bars, skid plate, caribou bags, and plan on an improved low beam and brake pads and Rotors. I will put in the doohickey in a couple of weeks. > > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to carry? > > What else would you take? >

G-g-guys.... I travel light, so you guys have me scared to death of riding the KLR outside my neighborhood without a posse of support trucks following me everywhere. Don't get me wrong, I always carry emergency gear with me - wallet, cell phone, insurance verification and a small bungee net, all stuffed into a 2-pocket fanny pack (belt cut off) screwed solidly to the rear rack. But, instead of burdening the KLR with 450 lbs of assorted rescue tools and provisions, I've decided there's plenty of space left in the fanny pack to toss in one of these, just in case Old Blue conks out somewhere in the boonies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2uuW_RxVIg Steve A13, in trouble-free blue. The green and red ones must break down a lot more often. ---- traderpro2003 wrote: maintenance 1. make sure valves and chain tensioner are properly adjusted 2. properly lube all the cables, suspension pivots, wheel bearings 3. start with fresh tires...so far very pleased with Mefos i bought from Fred at Arrowhead tools 1. make sure you bring all the tools necessary to service minor repairs (things like "real" sockets, wrenches, vice grips, etc.) just don't go too crazy...think minimal but necessary. you'll be surprised when you need assistance there are far more people that want to help than hurt. so mentally...bring an open [read: trusting] mind 2. i've never broken a chain but do carry the motion the pro chain tool. check and maintain the proper tension and lube and start with a new chain and you should have no problem, period. i'd replace a worn chain regardless if i were leaving on a long trip. 3. bring a can of chain lube and spray every fuel stop...consider a center stand if you don't have one 4. bring 2 extra air filters that you keep pre-lubbed in plastic zip bags. rotate them so you always have clean air...wash out at hotel, etc and stay prepared. 5. bring air filter cleaner, spray lube and disposable latex gloves 6. bring spare inner tubes, glue and glue-less patch kits, tire irons, and small electric compressor (recommend a 12-volt accessory plug min 15-amp circuit) 7. digital tire pressure guage 8. at home i have a box with most replacement parts someone could mail to me in emergency. otherwise, keep Fred's Arrowhead number handy or just find a local shop for most anything. mods 1. doohickey 2. upgrade the headlight wire/harness, light socket and install a brighter bulb (i run a 90/90) 3. install the turn signal group upgrade kit that allows you to shut- off the headlight (save battery) on starts, etc. 4. replace the stock battery with a gel battery and install it horizontally (easier access and a better battery...imo) 5. bigger windshield to deflect wind (less fatigue) and offer better protection 6. install gel grips and consider doing a mod to reduce even more vibration (i did the birdshot and like the result) 7. get a velcro Throttle Rocker to reduce throttle fatigue ...a whole lot more but you'll have to buy my book.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bell wrote: > > I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of Monterrey. I am going over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have installed crash bars, skid plate, caribou bags, and plan on an improved low beam and brake pads and Rotors. I will put in the doohickey in a couple of weeks. > > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to carry? > > What else would you take? > ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links

The 40 odd pounds of tools and emergency gear I carry are almost all the result of previous experience. I ride very very far off road, sometimes as much as 60 miles from the nearest "anywhere". Better safe than sorry. Shift lever, tire repair, spare fuses, socket set, blade and phillips, stout saw, Ive needed all of them at one point or another. I imagine if I rode street all the time I would not carry any, but I am used to feild stripping the beast and fixing whatever needs fixing on the trail. 60 miles is a three day walk. Sean Brown Looking for the perfect gift for the wife/Mom/or "the person who has everything?" www.brownsbirdestates.com To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 12:45:09 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Emergency parts? G-g-guys.... I travel light, so you guys have me scared to death of riding the KLR outside my neighborhood without a posse of support trucks following me everywhere. Don't get me wrong, I always carry emergency gear with me - wallet, cell phone, insurance verification and a small bungee net, all stuffed into a 2-pocket fanny pack (belt cut off) screwed solidly to the rear rack. But, instead of burdening the KLR with 450 lbs of assorted rescue tools and provisions, I've decided there's plenty of space left in the fanny pack to toss in one of these, just in case Old Blue conks out somewhere in the boonies: http://www.youtube com/watch? v=l2uuW_RxVIg Steve A13, in trouble-free blue. The green and red ones must break down a lot more often. ---- traderpro2003 wrote: maintenance 1. make sure valves and chain tensioner are properly adjusted 2. properly lube all the cables, suspension pivots, wheel bearings 3. start with fresh tires...so far very pleased with Mefos i bought from Fred at Arrowhead tools 1. make sure you bring all the tools necessary to service minor repairs (things like "real" sockets, wrenches, vice grips, etc.) just don't go too crazy...think minimal but necessary. you'll be surprised when you need assistance there are far more people that want to help than hurt. so mentally...bring an open [read: trusting] mind 2. i've never broken a chain but do carry the motion the pro chain tool. check and maintain the proper tension and lube and start with a new chain and you should have no problem, period. i'd replace a worn chain regardless if i were leaving on a long trip. 3. bring a can of chain lube and spray every fuel stop...consider a center stand if you don't have one 4. bring 2 extra air filters that you keep pre-lubbed in plastic zip bags. rotate them so you always have clean air...wash out at hotel, etc and stay prepared. 5. bring air filter cleaner, spray lube and disposable latex gloves 6. bring spare inner tubes, glue and glue-less patch kits, tire irons, and small electric compressor (recommend a 12-volt accessory plug min 15-amp circuit) 7. digital tire pressure guage 8. at home i have a box with most replacement parts someone could mail to me in emergency. otherwise, keep Fred's Arrowhead number handy or just find a local shop for most anything. mods 1. doohickey 2. upgrade the headlight wire/harness, light socket and install a brighter bulb (i run a 90/90) 3. install the turn signal group upgrade kit that allows you to shut- off the headlight (save battery) on starts, etc. 4. replace the stock battery with a gel battery and install it horizontally (easier access and a better battery...imo) 5. bigger windshield to deflect wind (less fatigue) and offer better protection 6. install gel grips and consider doing a mod to reduce even more vibration (i did the birdshot and like the result) 7. get a velcro Throttle Rocker to reduce throttle fatigue ...a whole lot more but you'll have to buy my book.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, David Bell wrote: > > I am going to Mexico in October to do some ds riding south of Monterrey. I am going over the 2002 KLR that I bought. I have installed crash bars, skid plate, caribou bags, and plan on an improved low beam and brake pads and Rotors. I will put in the doohickey in a couple of weeks. > > I am buying spare clutch cable, throttle cables. > > I was considering spare chain and chain breaker tools. > > What is a good chain to carry? What is a good chain breaker tool to carry? > > What else would you take? > ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sean, Don't take any offense - none intended! Just clowning around while noting the wide variation in preparedness among KLR riders. I respect the hell outta you guys who head off through the wilds with nothing but your wits and a few spares and tools. Must admit I see some bikes obscenely laden and think 'Damn... I'd rather drive a Jeep if I needed to carry that many supplies, and haul the KLR (or BMW or whatever) on a trailer to ride around when I get there". But, unless taken to an extreme of weight and bulk, its -gotta- be a ton of fun to be self-sufficient on two wheels well off the beaten path. Going solo must be a bit harder as you should take all the spares and tools you might need, where a group should be able to get by with fewer spares and sets of tools divided among the riders, assuming the same bike. Steve 10 dual sport and street bikes, 28 years, no flats, no breakdowns. The experienced know this means not a lot of total miles and few trips into the rough stuff. --------------- ---- matteeanne@... wrote: The 40 odd pounds of tools and emergency gear I carry are almost all the result of previous experience. I ride very very far off road, sometimes as much as 60 miles from the nearest "anywhere". Better safe than sorry. Shift lever, tire repair, spare fuses, socket set, blade and phillips, stout saw, Ive needed all of them at one point or another. I imagine if I rode street all the time I would not carry any, but I am used to feild stripping the beast and fixing whatever needs fixing on the trail. 60 miles is a three day walk. Sean Brown Looking for the perfect gift for the wife/Mom/or "the person who has everything?" www.brownsbirdestates.com To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 12:45:09 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Emergency parts? G-g-guys.... I travel light, so you guys have me scared to death of riding the KLR outside my neighborhood without a posse of support trucks following me everywhere. Don't get me wrong, I always carry emergency gear with me - wallet, cell phone, insurance verification and a small bungee net, all stuffed into a 2-pocket fanny pack (belt cut off) screwed solidly to the rear rack. But, instead of burdening the KLR with 450 lbs of assorted rescue tools and provisions, I've decided there's plenty of space left in the fanny pack to toss in one of these, just in case Old Blue conks out somewhere in the boonies: http://www.youtube com/watch? v=l2uuW_RxVIg Steve A13, in trouble-free blue. The green and red ones must break down a lot more often.