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chain question - clean and lube
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:57 pm
by kusstj
Jud is right on the mark, keeping the chain clean is probably more
important to chain and sprocket life than is lubing. I like to
blastmine clean when I think it is getting grungy. WD-40 is an oily
solvent and cuts crud well. I blast it until it is running off and
leaving a good mess on the grou . . . I mean newspaper I put on the
ground to soak up the mess. Blast it for a good 10 - 15 seconds untils
it is dripping off profusely. Let it dry for a few hours before
running. Then once is it clean (er) and dried, I give it a few shots
of chain lube I have handy. BTW, Gunk makes a chain lube which cleans
siimilarly and lubes too. Make sure you get the one recommended for O
ring chains. Gunk makes a chain lube that is not recommened for O ring
chains ,- read the small print.
Again, it cleans it with the solvent like performance of WD40, and
leaves an oily residue to help lube it. I know I know WD-40 is
technically not a lube according to the "great lubrication Minds" but
hey it works, and I know there are some senior list members who have
run chains over 15k miles just using wd40. Again, I use it mostly to
clean, then I use other products on the chain as well. todd in Chaska
MN
chain question - clean and lube
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:09 pm
by Chris Norloff
WD-40 is a solvent with a light machine oil. The solvent is Varsol, or
Stoddard's Solvent. WD-40 both cleans and provides some oiling. No word on
how it is as a dessert topping.
Google "WD-40 MSDS" for details.
Chris
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain Question - clean and lube
Jud is right on the mark, keeping the chain clean is probably more important
to chain and sprocket life than is lubing. I like to blastmine clean when I
think it is getting grungy. WD-40 is an oily solvent and cuts crud well. I
blast it until it is running off and leaving a good mess on the grou . . .
I mean newspaper I put on the ground to soak up the mess. Blast it for a
good 10 - 15 seconds untils it is dripping off profusely. Let it dry for a
few hours before running. Then once is it clean (er) and dried, I give it a
few shots of chain lube I have handy. BTW, Gunk makes a chain lube which
cleans siimilarly and lubes too. Make sure you get the one recommended for
O ring chains. Gunk makes a chain lube that is not recommened for O ring
chains ,- read the small print.
Again, it cleans it with the solvent like performance of WD40, and leaves an
oily residue to help lube it. I know I know WD-40 is technically not a lube
according to the "great lubrication Minds" but hey it works, and I know
there are some senior list members who have run chains over 15k miles just
using wd40. Again, I use it mostly to clean, then I use other products on
the chain as well. todd in Chaska MN
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chain question - clean and lube
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:13 pm
by J Fortner
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:57 PM, kusstj wrote:
> snip
>
> Again, it cleans it with the solvent like performance of WD40, and
> leaves an oily residue to help lube it. I know I know WD-40 is
> technically not a lube according to the "great lubrication Minds" but
> hey it works, and I know there are some senior list members who have
> run chains over 15k miles just using wd40. Again, I use it mostly to
> clean, then I use other products on the chain as well. todd in Chaska
> MN
>
from WD40.com/faq
WD-40 literally stands for Water Displacement, 40th attempt. That's the name
straight out of the lab book used by the chemist who developed WD-40 back in
1953. The chemist, Norm Larsen, was attempting to concoct a formula to
prevent corrosion-a task which is done by displacing water. Norm's
persistence paid off when he perfected the formula on his 40th try.
WD40 work well for cleaning debris off chains before it has a chance to
penetrate the seals and grease destroying the pins and chain.
Clean with WD40, then lube with your choice of lube or not. As long as
nothing destroys the seals or grease, normal chain pin wear will occur.
Jim Fortner
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chain question - clean and lube
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:16 pm
by E.L. Green
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kusstj" wrote:
> I know I know WD-40 is
> technically not a lube according to the "great lubrication Minds"
Maybe not according to the "great lubrication Minds", but according to
its MRDS sheet, it's approximately 60% mineral spirits (the "aliphatic
hydrocarbon", look up the CAS #'s for the MSDS for the ingredients and
you'll see that it's basically Stoddard solvent), 25% light machine
oil, and 15% "other" stuff (perfume, CO2 propellant, etc.).
In short, it's light machine oil with a solvent carrier. I.e., a
lubricant.
http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf
But let's not confuse a good Internet discussion with facts, eh?
.
chain question - clean and lube
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:02 pm
by Bradley Scheirer
Is the stock chain an Oring?
Brad
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From: kusstj
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:57 PM
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain Question - clean and lube
Jud is right on the mark, keeping the chain clean is probably more
important to chain and sprocket life than is lubing. I like to
blastmine clean when I think it is getting grungy. WD-40 is an oily
solvent and cuts crud well. I blast it until it is running off and
leaving a good mess on the grou . . . I mean newspaper I put on the
ground to soak up the mess. Blast it for a good 10 - 15 seconds untils
it is dripping off profusely. Let it dry for a few hours before
running. Then once is it clean (er) and dried, I give it a few shots
of chain lube I have handy. BTW, Gunk makes a chain lube which cleans
siimilarly and lubes too. Make sure you get the one recommended for O
ring chains. Gunk makes a chain lube that is not recommened for O ring
chains ,- read the small print.
Again, it cleans it with the solvent like performance of WD40, and
leaves an oily residue to help lube it. I know I know WD-40 is
technically not a lube according to the "great lubrication Minds" but
hey it works, and I know there are some senior list members who have
run chains over 15k miles just using wd40. Again, I use it mostly to
clean, then I use other products on the chain as well. todd in Chaska
MN
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wd40 "friend or foe" & yes oem chain is an o ring chain
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:54 pm
by kusstj
I guess I am showing my age when I recall banter from many years past.
Thanks very much for the MSDS info on the product. Personally, I go
through a couple gallons per year, and I think it does good things.
it is funny however, that I do recall those who agued that it wasn't
appropriate as a lube and was only decent as a solvent. Then others
who like me trust in it whole heartedly.
Maybe some with better memories than I can recall the specific - just
for old times sake. -not important obviously.
Just for fun I once let people on a gun users list know that I had used
it to clean guns. Boy did the lubrication minds come out of the
woodwork on that one. The claim (if I recall accurately) is that it
serves as a solvent to loosen up working parts, but then if left alone
can attract dust, which binds things up, and the cycle continues.
I like it on my chain, that I know. cleans it up nice.
I still have a five year old can of "synthetic" chain lube (made by one
of my favorite synthetic engine oil producers) but I tend to think the
stuff turns gooey. Then I eventually use WD40 on it anyway.
Yes, the OEM chain is an O ring chain todd Chaska MN mosquito land