if you have to ask you wouldn't understand

[Ralph D]

I was going to my mothers today and on the way there the tachometer was jumping around. I was holding it around 5,000 rpm. I would give it a little gas and the tach would jump up to 7, 8 and even over 9,000 rpm when the bike did not increase over 500 rpm. I checked the clutch adjustment before I returned home and it seemed fine. I ran it in neautral and the tach was jumping around from 4,000 up to 7,000 rpm. On the way home I was just trying to hold the bike around 60 mph and the tach was jumping around and as it jumped up to high rpm's the motor would cut out like there was a rev limiter. It got so bad I was down to 40 mph on the side of the freeway just trying to get to the next offramp. It then cut completely out, and would not restart. I checked the 20 amp fuse under the seat and it was good. I am about to go start fumbling around. I am asking for any suggestions on where to start, or ideas on what could have happened. It is an 07 KLR with a little over 8,153 miles.

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph D" wrote:

> > I was going to my mothers today and on the way there the tachometer was > jumping around. I was holding it around 5,000 rpm. I would give it a > little gas and the tach would jump up to 7, 8 and even over 9,000 rpm > when the bike did not increase over 500 rpm. I checked the clutch > adjustment before I returned home and it seemed fine. I ran it in > neautral and the tach was jumping around from 4,000 up to 7,000 rpm. On > the way home I was just trying to hold the bike around 60 mph and the > tach was jumping around and as it jumped up to high rpm's the motor > would cut out like there was a rev limiter. It got so bad I was down to > 40 mph on the side of the freeway just trying to get to the next > offramp. It then cut completely out, and would not restart. I checked > the 20 amp fuse under the seat and it was good. I am about to go start > fumbling around. I am asking for any suggestions on where to start, or > ideas on what could have happened. It is an 07 KLR with a little over > 8,153 miles.

Okay, when was the last time you adjusted the chain? I bet if you look back there you'll find that you have no teeth left on your sprockets. Also, if you're revving the motor up to 9,000 rpm yes, you're going to hit the valve float limit and the engine will cut out. You do it repeatedly and you'll bust a valve or valve spring, which apparently you did since your bike cut out entirely. Hint: TAKE IT TO A MECHANIC. Or at least someone who is mechanically astute. And be prepared to shovel out a lot of bucks to fix the stuff you broke by repeatedly over-revving the engine. The KLR is not designed to rev to 9,000 RPM, and the only wonder is that you didn't send a friggin' rod through the crankcase doing so. -E

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 12:36 AM +0000 7/7/08, Ralph D wrote:

>I was going to my mothers today and on the way there the tachometer was >jumping around. I was holding it around 5,000 rpm. I would give it a >little gas and the tach would jump up to 7, 8 and even over 9,000 rpm >when the bike did not increase over 500 rpm. I checked the clutch >adjustment before I returned home and it seemed fine. I ran it in >neautral and the tach was jumping around from 4,000 up to 7,000 rpm. On >the way home I was just trying to hold the bike around 60 mph and the >tach was jumping around and as it jumped up to high rpm's the motor >would cut out like there was a rev limiter. It got so bad I was down to >40 mph on the side of the freeway just trying to get to the next >offramp. It then cut completely out, and would not restart. I checked >the 20 amp fuse under the seat and it was good. I am about to go start >fumbling around. I am asking for any suggestions on where to start, or >ideas on what could have happened. It is an 07 KLR with a little over >8,153 miles.

Possibly a toasted CDI box? Mark

[Wayne Blackburn]

I think you have some explaining to do. First of all was the engine revving to 9k, or was the tech just freaking out. Cause I think if your engine revs reached 9k your problem is in the valve train. Kiss your top end goodbye.

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: From: Tengai Mark Van Horn Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] KLR breakdown ? To: "Ralph D" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 8:55 PM At 12:36 AM +0000 7/7/08, Ralph D wrote: >I was going to my mothers today and on the way there the tachometer was >jumping around. I was holding it around 5,000 rpm. I would give it a >little gas and the tach would jump up to 7, 8 and even over 9,000 rpm >when the bike did not increase over 500 rpm. I checked the clutch >adjustment before I returned home and it seemed fine. I ran it in >neautral and the tach was jumping around from 4,000 up to 7,000 rpm. On >the way home I was just trying to hold the bike around 60 mph and the >tach was jumping around and as it jumped up to high rpm's the motor >would cut out like there was a rev limiter. It got so bad I was down to >40 mph on the side of the freeway just trying to get to the next >offramp. It then cut completely out, and would not restart. I checked >the 20 amp fuse under the seat and it was good. I am about to go start >fumbling around. I am asking for any suggestions on where to start, or >ideas on what could have happened. It is an 07 KLR with a little over >8,153 miles. Possibly a toasted CDI box? Mark

[Darren Clark]

I was thinking the same thing. There's a big difference between the tach going to 9K and the motor doing 9K. My bet is the CDI box is going dead. Although I did once see some chick winding out a Dodge truck on a side street trying to do the speed limit, the trans was toasted and she couldn't figure out why it wouldn't go as fast as it sounded. Darren Clark 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI

>> Possibly a toasted CDI box? >> >>Mark

Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> At 12:36 AM +0000 7/7/08, Ralph D wrote: > >> I was going to my mothers today and on the way there the tachometer was >> jumping around. I was holding it around 5,000 rpm. I would give it a >> little gas and the tach would jump up to 7, 8 and even over 9,000 rpm >> when the bike did not increase over 500 rpm. I checked the clutch >> adjustment before I returned home and it seemed fine. I ran it in >> neautral and the tach was jumping around from 4,000 up to 7,000 rpm. On >> the way home I was just trying to hold the bike around 60 mph and the >> tach was jumping around and as it jumped up to high rpm's the motor >> would cut out like there was a rev limiter. It got so bad I was down to >> 40 mph on the side of the freeway just trying to get to the next >> offramp. It then cut completely out, and would not restart. I checked >> the 20 amp fuse under the seat and it was good. I am about to go start >> fumbling around. I am asking for any suggestions on where to start, or >> ideas on what could have happened. It is an 07 KLR with a little over >> 8,153 miles. >> > > > Possibly a toasted CDI box? > > Mark > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

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[Wayne Blackburn]

That brings up a question that I have. does this ignition have a rev limiter. The reason I ask is. Some time back while pulling a wheelie the tranny jumped out of gear.I don't know how high it revved but grabbed another gear real quick.

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Wayne Blackburn wrote: From: Wayne Blackburn Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] KLR breakdown ? To: "Ralph D" , "Tengai Mark Van Horn" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 9:08 PM I think you have some explaining to do. First of all was the engine revving to 9k, or was the tech just freaking out. Cause I think if your engine revs reached 9k your problem is in the valve train. Kiss your top end goodbye. --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: From: Tengai Mark Van Horn Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] KLR breakdown ? To: "Ralph D" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 8:55 PM At 12:36 AM +0000 7/7/08, Ralph D wrote: >I was going to my mothers today and on the way there the tachometer was >jumping around. I was holding it around 5,000 rpm. I would give it a >little gas and the tach would jump up to 7, 8 and even over 9,000 rpm >when the bike did not increase over 500 rpm. I checked the clutch >adjustment before I returned home and it seemed fine. I ran it in >neautral and the tach was jumping around from 4,000 up to 7,000 rpm. On >the way home I was just trying to hold the bike around 60 mph and the >tach was jumping around and as it jumped up to high rpm's the motor >would cut out like there was a rev limiter. It got so bad I was down to >40 mph on the side of the freeway just trying to get to the next >offramp. It then cut completely out, and would not restart. I checked >the 20 amp fuse under the seat and it was good. I am about to go start >fumbling around. I am asking for any suggestions on where to start, or >ideas on what could have happened. It is an 07 KLR with a little over >8,153 miles. Possibly a toasted CDI box? Mark

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

The Kawasaki dealer I have close to my house is kinda like that. They never have anything in stock and their prices are pretty high which is why I got an estimate from them on a minor collision from the rear on my Concourse. All it really did was damage the luggage carrier on the right side, break the luggage rack. The dealer ran the estimate up to $1800 for new rack, new luggage, new fender (minor scratch), new turn signal (all it needed was a bulb), new muffler (minor dent I can live with). I am gluing the luggage back up and seems like it will work fine as the damage doesn't show as it is on the inside. The dealer really didn't want to give me the estimate as he wanted to fix it and make big bucaroos on stuff that is easily bolted on. He said it was in my hands now on dealing with the insurance company as I rode off. The insurance company (Allstate) paid off like a slot machine. The only thing I replaced is the bulb and the rack (under $100 dollars). The bike has 48,000 miles on it and I plan to ride it until it quits and if I do trade it, it will be without the luggage. You got to watch some dealers trying to stay in business as they will fleece you. A friend who can't turn a wrench has his DR 650 in the shop right now to fix the speedo. He is too inept to check and see if the cable might not be properly installed at the axle as he did take the tires off for a tire change. The $1800 (minus the $100 for repair) is going into a new bike fund for when I might need one. Criswell

On Jul 6, 2008, at 6:53 PM, notanymoore wrote: > You can't base it on dealerships. I went into a Kaw dealership and > asked for a cotter pin for the real wheel locking nut. They said > they'd have to look up the part # ????!!!!!! > > Resisting the urge to reach over the counter and bitch slap the guy, I > went to the local auto parts store and the guy handed me a half dozen > cotter pins for free. Seems they're not real popular anymore. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Reverend" wrote: > > > > Because they're rugged individualists? > > I walked in to my local Harley dealership to try to fnd a > thumb-adjustable > > pilot screw for the KLR. Two people tried and didn't grasp that it > is not > > likely in the factory book as it's not a factory part (anyone have a > part# > > for this btw?) > > > > That wasn't the odd thing, the odd thing was that everyone looked > like they > > hadn't showered for a month and they all wore leather, like they > came > > straight from the blue-oyster bar. Amusing, it was. > > > > Not that I care how you dress or what you ride, but you never > really see > > "those KLR guys" riding around without helmets and wearing the same > stuff. I > > guess we're not rugged individualists?! > > > > Rev(erend, as we already have a Rev here hehe) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Behalf Of fasteddiecopeman > > > > > Ever wonder why guys on Harleys, dressed like they're "outlaws" > who > > > rape children and eat > > > babies, put fringy grips on their bikes? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]