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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Long" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] taller windshield >A couple of months ago I purchased a 2002 KLR. Overall, I love it! > Lots of fun...seems to be a good all purpose bike. But when I get out > on the highway, and reach about 60 mph, the wind hitting me in the > upper chest and helmet is very annoying. I've thought about getting > the optional taller windshield from Kawasaki. Has anyone had any > experiences (good or bad) with Kawasaki's taller windshield? > > Rob > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
On 8/17/05 9:57 AM, "Shopper" wrote: > I went with the cheap solution : no windshield at all. > At least the stock windshield doesn't blow anymore all the wind to my face. > Give it a try. Much better imho. > > Steph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Long" > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:36 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] taller windshield > > >> A couple of months ago I purchased a 2002 KLR. Overall, I love it! >> Lots of fun...seems to be a good all purpose bike. But when I get out >> on the highway, and reach about 60 mph, the wind hitting me in the >> upper chest and helmet is very annoying. I've thought about getting >> the optional taller windshield from Kawasaki. Has anyone had any >> experiences (good or bad) with Kawasaki's taller windshield? >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> Archive Quicksearch at: >> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Long" wrote: > A couple of months ago I purchased a 2002 KLR. Overall, I love it! > Lots of fun...seems to be a good all purpose bike. But when I get out > on the highway, and reach about 60 mph, the wind hitting me in the > upper chest and helmet is very annoying. I've thought about getting > the optional taller windshield from Kawasaki. Has anyone had any > experiences (good or bad) with Kawasaki's taller windshield? > > Rob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Long" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] taller windshield >A couple of months ago I purchased a 2002 KLR. Overall, I love it! > Lots of fun...seems to be a good all purpose bike. But when I get out > on the highway, and reach about 60 mph, the wind hitting me in the > upper chest and helmet is very annoying. I've thought about getting > the optional taller windshield from Kawasaki. Has anyone had any > experiences (good or bad) with Kawasaki's taller windshield? Another possible, functional option for some KLR riders===There have been numerous posts the past months/years regarding more protection for the KLR rider. If riding with a full helmet and on rough roads where a full shield may not be desirable, I can take my Memphis Shades Demon shield off in short order at the two mounting points on the bars. The MS Hellcat will also work but the Demon provides the best shape/protection, IMO. MS mounting hardware is billet aluminum, strong and seems to withstand the demands placed on it by the KLR 'throbbing.' I have seen no structural problems after about a thousand miles of all surface riding, except the shield will rock peck on gravel, and that is a major issue as the shields have gone up drastically in price in the four years since ordering my last one. The MS shields will work behind the OEM screen, however two of my OEM screen fasteners jiggled loose and disappeared so I took the stock screen off, which produces a slightly better fit for the Demon shield and causes no air flow/protection/handling issues. The OEM screen can easily be added back or left off, with or without the shield in place. Searching for better wind/debris protection for 'sporttouring' style of riding on the FZ1 in 2001, I stumbled onto the Hellcat/Demon options for use behind the stock windscreen. The same setup works very well for the KLR if one wants that kind of protection. The one issue in both cases is that the rider has a very solidly mounted shield close the body/face, which in an accident can act to slice/cut/bruise, etc., but that is the case with some other options. The shield however offers a much safer ride for bad weather/rain/flying road debris, etc, to include extending cold weather riding and enjoyable 'sight-seeing' with a half helmet or no helmet, and still works with a full helmet. If anyone needs to see the look/fit, email me offlist for pics but include the type of connection, dial up or high speed. Regards, Z *****All outgoing email & attachments are scanned with updated Norton Antivirus***** ****From American's Hometown, Mark Twain's Hometown****] Barry Zbornik, Hannibal, Missouri Primary Email: iowaz@... Secondary Email: iowaz@... Real Motorcycles: http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/sitemap.html 2005 Kawasaki KLR650, dual purpose, go anywhere at anytime. 2003 Yamaha R6: Silver, Yoshimura RS-3 Titanium slip-on and more. 2001 Yamaha FZ1: Black, GYRT Slip-on & Ivan's Jets, plus extras, FZ1OA. 1995 Yamaha Vmax: Red, Hindle, suspension and other mods, VMOA 169. 1985 Honda V65 Magna: Black, Kerker, oil and suspension mods, SabMag. ****Go Iowa, Go Cyclones, Go Peacocks, Go Cardinals**** > > > >
I presume you do not have handguards?>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rob Long" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:36 AM >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] taller windshield > > >>A couple of months ago I purchased a 2002 KLR. Overall, I love it! >>Lots of fun...seems to be a good all purpose bike. But when I get out >>on the highway, and reach about 60 mph, the wind hitting me in the >>upper chest and helmet is very annoying. I've thought about getting >>the optional taller windshield from Kawasaki. Has anyone had any >>experiences (good or bad) with Kawasaki's taller windshield? >> >> > >Another possible, functional option for some KLR riders===There have been numerous posts the past months/years >regarding more protection for the KLR rider. If riding with a full helmet and on rough roads where a full >shield may not be desirable, I can take my Memphis Shades Demon shield off in short order at the two mounting >points on the bars. >
The Hellcat looks like it would be better able to fit on a bike with handguards, due to the lack of the extensions to the sides. Or can the Demon be fitted to go above handguards? Others have used the Slipstreamer CF-30 but have had problems with the provided hardware breaking (basically even hardware store kit works better). It is much cheaper than the MS stuff (you can get a CF30 for under $50), but...> The MS Hellcat will also work but the Demon provides the best shape/protection, IMO. MS > >
=====Both the Hellcat and Demon will work with the handguards, no modification. The Hellcat has more curvature thus will hit the OEM windscreen a bit more when full turning the bars such as in parking manipulation. Under riding conditions, no issues with either. The Demon is the way to go, IMO, as the outside extensions offer more protection, with the handguards coming into play where the extensions stop. The Demon has less curvature or is slightly 'flatter' and gives a broader frontal surface. The less curvature means less contact with the OEM windscreen. It also works best with the OEM screen removed.>> The MS Hellcat will also work but the Demon provides the best shape/protection, IMO. > The Hellcat looks like it would be better able to fit on a bike with handguards, due to the lack of the > extensions to the sides. Or can the Demon be fitted to go above handguards?
====Yes, the MS is really high priced. I think it has gone up nearly 50% since I last ordered a Demon for my FZ. I had the Hellcat I had tired on the FZ so experimented with it. Then took the Demon off the FZ for a comparison. I left the FZ's Demon on the KLR and ordered a new Demon for the FZ. ====The only issue I have had to date with the Demon is that while riding NEMO gravel the stock tires apparently are tossing a stone up into the air and forward every so often with the bike catching up and the shield is getting hit. After several of those hits, there was one small peck in the shield. It is/was not constant and depends mainly on the gravel type, usually fairly large pieces of loose gravel. It was not happening on dirt and 'chip' size gravel. The one shield peck is hard to notice and has not starred outward. Due the price of this shield one would have to weigh the kind of rock/gravel surface to use it on and under what style of riding on those surfaces. All that would be a personal choice. Unless the mounting hardware starts to show breakage or the shield breaks at the hardware/shield interface, the MS should work great for various kinds of commuting/dual touring, etc. The Demon has certainly fit the bill for all round riding on the FZ, but the KLR is vibrating the shield and mounts much more severely. ====I had always fought National Cycle's mediocre mounting hardware so was more than pleased with the quality of MS on my FZ. It has never shown any sign of fatigue or coming loose. Since the fasteners on the MS are steel and the threads in the bar mounts, etc. are billet AL, one has to be very careful not to over tighten and strip the AL threads. Thus no ratchet mounted hex bits, IMO, only hand tightening with the supplied hex wrench. ====I tried both the Hellcat and Demon on the KLR, as I did with the FZ. Both shields install easily and function well, with the Demon being my choice hands down, but I could live with the Hellcat on either. I am a shield, rather than a screen fan, for many kinds of riding and certainly in cold, wet, dangerous road conditions and long trips, or just getting the wind off for sight seeing. There may be other manufacturers with as good a product, but since the MS works so well for me, I do not pay attention to the market. I only use NS shields when forced too because of model fit. ===As stated, I only have about 1k miles on the KLR Demon and cannot testify to how long it will hold up, or under what conditions/riding style they will not hold up. However, a very high percentage of my KLR riding will be a combination of hard surface and gravel with some dirt road/trail. So if the mounting hardware and mounting points hold to the KLR vibrations, the shield will work great for me. Only future riding time/miles will let me know from experience how it is going to hold up. I will leave the Demon on the KLR until it breaks or until needing removed for something more technical than my usual riding. If I were heading out on a trip with serious technical riding challenges I would weigh removing the MS. However, if I were adventure touring on roads/trails in most areas, I would want the environmental protection of an MS or similar shield. Just depends on ones riding style and objective of their rides. I am not trying to 'sell' the idea of a shield, just passing on what I think may be a viable option for many riders. Regards, Z *****All outgoing email & attachments are scanned with updated Norton Antivirus***** ****From American's Hometown, Mark Twain's Hometown****] Barry Zbornik, Hannibal, Missouri Primary Email: iowaz@... Secondary Email: iowaz@... Real Motorcycles: http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/sitemap.html 2005 Kawasaki KLR650, dual purpose, go anywhere at anytime. 2003 Yamaha R6: Silver, Yoshimura RS-3 Titanium slip-on and more. 2001 Yamaha FZ1: Black, GYRT Slip-on & Ivan's Jets, plus extras, FZ1OA. 1995 Yamaha Vmax: Red, Hindle, suspension and other mods, VMOA 169. 1985 Honda V65 Magna: Black, Kerker, oil and suspension mods, SabMag. ****Go Iowa, Go Cyclones, Go Peacocks, Go Cardinals****> > Others have used the Slipstreamer CF-30 but have had problems with the provided hardware breaking (basically > even hardware store kit works better). It is much cheaper than the MS stuff (you can get a CF30 for under > $50), but... >
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "dspuffer" wrote: > I have a 2002 also. I was making a trip from Arizona to Alabama and > back so I bought the taller windshield. It makes a big difference. I > bought mine from some outfit in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Unfortunatlly > I can not remember the name of the company. > > But what I found inportant to me was the simplicity of changing it > out. My taller windshield attaches to the three points the OEM one > attaches to and to the two points where the faring attaches to the > frame. I like this because I can change quickly and easily. I have > never tried off-roading with the taller one but it seems it would be > dangerous. > > On the same thought, I had my KLR on the back of my RV when it broke > down. It would be days before the RV could be repaired. So I rode the > last 500 miles home on the bike at speeds between 65 and 75 MPH. I > rode hard and fast stopping only for gas. Because I wear a half > helmet, my ears were subjected to wind noise the entire trip. When I > stopped, I could barely hear for about four hours. I used the same > helmet on the trip to Alabama with the tall windshield and did not have > this problem. > > Puffer > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Long" wrote: > > A couple of months ago I purchased a 2002 KLR. Overall, I love it! > > Lots of fun...seems to be a good all purpose bike. But when I get > out > > on the highway, and reach about 60 mph, the wind hitting me in the > > upper chest and helmet is very annoying. I've thought about getting > > the optional taller windshield from Kawasaki. Has anyone had any > > experiences (good or bad) with Kawasaki's taller windshield? > > > > Rob
suupose> I just removed my windshield...good decrease of wind noise. I
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