hearing protection

[Ronald Criswell]

Two friends of mine are just about totally deaf, both Viet Nam vets and been around guns a lot. Supposedly gun noise is about the worst for your ears. Even more so than watching short track 2 stroke bikes with no mufflers racing in an indoor metal roof rodeo arena 30 years ago. I could not hear for 2 days after those races (which was every Saturday night in winter). Criswell

On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:34 PM, David Critchley wrote: > When I was a young soldier, we used to laugh at the wimps that used > ear > protection on the range, and in those M113 Carriers. We stood around > while our guns let go with barrages and though tinnitis was funny > as hell. > Now I can't hear myself laughing about it, I wonder if they can? > There is a ton of information around on the subject of hearing loss, > and the major opinion seems to be that the damage is accumulative, > meaning that the situation gets worse as time goes by, and your damage > does not go away, you just get used to being deafer and deafer. > > DC > > Jeff wrote: > > > Well said Mike. > > > > This is my first post to this list but the subject is near and > dear to > > me. I too have tinnitus. My constant companion since > > 1984. The 72" diesel lawn mower I drove at the golf course didn't > > seem that loud until I rolled into the shop one Friday and couldn't > > understand the radio. The garbled mess I started with settled into a > > high frequency squeal that has gotten progressively louder and lower > > over the years and lately a nice buzz has been added. I don't > enjoy a > > party or a trip to the bar because I can't understand the > > conversations. I hear all the sounds as one big mixed up mass of > sound. > > > > I'm begging you all... get good earplugs, make sure you insert them > > properly and were them anytime you plan on getting up to any kind of > > speed. It's the wind that gets you. It's possible to get >100dB > sound > > levels inside a helmet at highway speeds. > > > > Jeff > > rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg > > > > "M.M." wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don t understand the thing about earplugs. > > > > First of all, I don t think the KLR is noisy. > > > > Secondly, I want to hear everything, like my own > > > > engine, is there a car coming from behind, is > > > > Jennifer > > > > calling my name, stuff like that. > > > > > > I understand the damage that noise trauma has done to > > > my hearing. > > > > > > The problem isn't as much the noise from the KLR as > > > much as it is the wind noise. If I could do it all > > > over again I would have protected my hearing much > > > better than I had in my earlier years. Unfortunately > > > by the time I recognized the hearing damage it was > > > apparently too late to undo it. Now I have squeeling, > > > ringing chirping and clicking in my ears.. also known > > > as tinnitus. > > > > > > I always wear good earplugs and my tinnitus still gets > > > louder especially after riding over about 40mph for > > > any length of time because of the wind noise. > > > > > > My hearing has become fragile and I feel it makes me > > > more aware than the average person as to what noises > > > are traumatic to hearing. > > > > > > Believe what you wish but if someday you start > > > experiencing temporary ringing in your ears from > > > noise... be very alarmed if you care to preserve your > > > hearing.... temporary tinnitus will eventually change > > > to hearing loss and permanent tinnitus. > > > > > > As far as hearing my engine with ear plugs in I can > > > hear it fine... and some of the mechanical sounds I > > > can hear detail with earplugs in that I can't hear > > > with them out. As far as cars behind me I find the > > > rear view mirrors and attentive driving more than make > > > up for any reduced hearing with earplugs. As far as > > > being able to hear Jennifer calling... I would want to > > > be able to have my hearing undamaged so I could be > > > able to hear her or anyone or anything else in the > > > future. > > > > > > I consider hearing protection to be essential. I > > > highly recommend it. And not only just for when > > > riding. Any time you are likely to be exposed to loud > > > or nearby noise (baby screams, clapping, whistling > > > concerts, power tools, hammering, road noise and so > > > on). It may seem like it doesn't matter to you now > > > because you don't notice any negative effects yet and > > > maybe for some reason it wont cause you a problem. I > > > wouldn't count on that if it was me. > > > > > > Don't mean to sound like a lecture but my experience > > > compels me to say what I can to try to raise awareness > > > so that hopefully others will not suffer the way I do > > > or cause others to suffer by not respecting others' > > > hearing. > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? > category=shopping > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? > category=shopping> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fr. Don]

I let my bike sit a few days because of the horrible flooding and storms we have had. Now my brake rotor is rusty. The chain is a bit rusty too. I'm not worried about the chain. I'll give her a blast of WD-40 and call it golden. However, I don't want a lubricant on my brake rotor. Should I just drive it and let the pads take it off? Or should I use WD-40 anyway since it's not exactly a pure lube? It wouldn't be like putting motor oil on the rotor or anything. But I want want my brakes to slip. Any suggestions? Don+ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dail]

Don, No to WD40, it'll ruin the brake pads, I would just ride it and let the pads clean it, or maybe light cleaning with a "brillo pad"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. Don" To: "KLR" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Rust problems >I let my bike sit a few days because of the horrible flooding and storms we > have had. Now my brake rotor is rusty. The chain is a bit rusty too. I'm > not > worried about the chain. I'll give her a blast of WD-40 and call it > golden. > However, I don't want a lubricant on my brake rotor. Should I just drive > it > and let the pads take it off? Or should I use WD-40 anyway since it's not > exactly a pure lube? It wouldn't be like putting motor oil on the rotor or > anything. But I want want my brakes to slip. Any suggestions? > > Don+ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 > 2:16 PM > >

[teamster1997]

I would just drive the bike and use the brakes like normal. I would not use any thing else. No oils...

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. Don" wrote: > > I let my bike sit a few days because of the horrible flooding and storms we > have had. Now my brake rotor is rusty. The chain is a bit rusty too. I'm not > worried about the chain. I'll give her a blast of WD-40 and call it golden. > However, I don't want a lubricant on my brake rotor. Should I just drive it > and let the pads take it off? Or should I use WD-40 anyway since it's not > exactly a pure lube? It wouldn't be like putting motor oil on the rotor or > anything. But I want want my brakes to slip. Any suggestions? > > Don+ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[nakedwaterskier]

The chain should be removed and soaked in oil then hung to drip dry for a few days. J

[dooden]

Lube the chian and ride it, just use the brakes, just surface rust will come right off after braking. Me Thinks Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. Don" wrote: > > I let my bike sit a few days because of the horrible flooding and storms we > have had. Now my brake rotor is rusty. The chain is a bit rusty too. I'm not > worried about the chain. I'll give her a blast of WD-40 and call it golden. > However, I don't want a lubricant on my brake rotor. Should I just drive it > and let the pads take it off? Or should I use WD-40 anyway since it's not > exactly a pure lube? It wouldn't be like putting motor oil on the rotor or > anything. But I want want my brakes to slip. Any suggestions? > > Don+ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. Don" wrote:

> > I let my bike sit a few days Now my brake rotor is rusty.

> However, I don't want a lubricant on my brake rotor. Or should I use WD-40 anyway since it's not exactly a pure lube? It wouldn't be like putting motor oil on the rotor or anything.

> But I want want my brakes to slip. Any suggestions? >

If you want want your brakes to slip then blast away with the WD40. If you want want your brakes to grip, then don't. If the rust actually bothers you, steel wool will clean some of it up. If you're just out trolling on a winter day.... happy hookin' da Vermonster

[Jacobus De Bruyn]

Definitely throw as much oil and grease on your brake rotors as you can, it will eliminate the friction. Jacostarica. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

[Fr. Don]

Thanks for all of the advice. I decided to blast the chain only with WD-40 and ride it. I'm good with that. The brakes worked well on this very chilly morning. Methinks my right Widder electric glove stopped working though as I arrived at my destination after an hour with quite frozen fingers. Not sure what's going on there... Don+

On Feb 17, 2008 8:20 PM, Fr. Don wrote: > I let my bike sit a few days because of the horrible flooding and storms > we have had. Now my brake rotor is rusty. The chain is a bit rusty too. I'm > not worried about the chain. I'll give her a blast of WD-40 and call it > golden. However, I don't want a lubricant on my brake rotor. Should I just > drive it and let the pads take it off? Or should I use WD-40 anyway since > it's not exactly a pure lube? It wouldn't be like putting motor oil on the > rotor or anything. But I want want my brakes to slip. Any suggestions? > > Don+ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]