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Listers, A subject came up on another list and looking at one of the reference web sites I stumbled upon one you may find of interest. It's about chain maintenance on bicycles but I'm sure it could be adapted to work with a KLR chain. http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html I'm not suggesting anyone try this method and I don't believe I will either. But... it does show someone's been thinking a bit. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

While I'm adapting this chain maintenance system to my KLR I think I'll get one of Sheldon's Geomagnetic Boosters ordered. I'm certain this will result in a real world usable increase in speed on my tired old KLR and it should be easy to adapt to the KLR. http://sheldonbrown.com/geomag.html And of course to complete these mods I'll need one of Sheldon's Tork-Grip Ultimate torque wrenches. It appears that it may not be precision enough for my BMW's but should work just fine for the KLR. http://sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html I'm also thinkin' that about contacting Sheldon to see if I can get some of his hollow ball bearings and aluminum "break" cables although these may well be a little on the light duty side to make the transition from bicycles to motorcycles. Oh boy, it's gonna be a good year of tinkering on the KLR. I just hope I have time to ride it!! George North Platte, NE

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Listers, > > A subject came up on another list and looking at one of the reference web > sites I stumbled upon one you may find of interest. It's about chain > maintenance on bicycles but I'm sure it could be adapted to work with a > KLR chain. > > http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html > > I'm not suggesting anyone try this method and I don't believe I will > either. But... it does show someone's been thinking a bit. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> > Listers, > > A subject came up on another list and looking at one of the reference web > sites I stumbled upon one you may find of interest. It's about chain > maintenance on bicycles but I'm sure it could be adapted to work with a > KLR chain. > > http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html > > I'm not suggesting anyone try this method and I don't believe I will > either. But... it does show someone's been thinking a bit. >

Sheldon Brown is da man when it comes to English 3-speeds, but as your link demonstrates, he has something for everyone. You should be careful with that kind of information. I know some BMW owners who would take it seriously.

On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:17:12 -0000 "George Evans" writes:

> While I'm adapting this chain maintenance system to my KLR I think > I'll get one of Sheldon's Geomagnetic Boosters ordered. I'm > certain > this will result in a real world usable increase in speed on my > tired > old KLR and it should be easy to adapt to the KLR. > http://sheldonbrown.com/geomag.html > > And of course to complete these mods I'll need one of Sheldon's > Tork-Grip Ultimate torque wrenches. It appears that it may not be > precision enough for my BMW's but should work just fine for the > KLR. > http://sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html > > I'm also thinkin' that about contacting Sheldon to see if I can get > some of his hollow ball bearings and aluminum "break" cables > although > these may well be a little on the light duty side to make the > transition from bicycles to motorcycles. > > Oh boy, it's gonna be a good year of tinkering on the KLR. I just > hope I have time to ride it!! > > George > North Platte, NE

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> George, Actually the torque wrench thing is what came up on the airheads big list. That got me looking around a bit at that site. Of course to use it on a BMW you'd have to get a translator so you could figure out which marking was Guttentight. : ) I was thinking about you this morning after reading your comments. I may be riding up to the Sturgis dealer tomorrow to get the last parts for a bit for my R100RT project. I was remembering when you were up here in May 2002 for the tech day. I think I still have a picture of your bike with a little snow man on the seat. : ) Then I remember you and your buddy and Dale Nordlie all taking a ride on Sunday morning on Vanocker Canyon for a mile or two and if I recall correctly all three of you went down on the ice. I'll be asking the dealer tomorrow for road conditions on Vanocker. This morning at a few minutes after 9 they didn't know what the conditions were. I'll be on the KLR so maybe I'll just ride it anyway for the adventure. Best, Jeff Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> > On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:17:12 -0000 "George Evans" > writes: > > While I'm adapting this chain maintenance system to my KLR I think > > I'll get one of Sheldon's Geomagnetic Boosters ordered. I'm > > certain > > this will result in a real world usable increase in speed on my > > tired > > old KLR and it should be easy to adapt to the KLR. > > http://sheldonbrown.com/geomag.html > > > > And of course to complete these mods I'll need one of Sheldon's > > Tork-Grip Ultimate torque wrenches. It appears that it may not be > > precision enough for my BMW's but should work just fine for the > > KLR. > > http://sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html > > > > I'm also thinkin' that about contacting Sheldon to see if I can

get

> > some of his hollow ball bearings and aluminum "break" cables > > although > > these may well be a little on the light duty side to make the > > transition from bicycles to motorcycles. > > > > Oh boy, it's gonna be a good year of tinkering on the KLR. I just > > hope I have time to ride it!! > > > > George > > North Platte, NE > <><><><><><> > <><><><><><> > > George, > > Actually the torque wrench thing is what came up on the airheads big > list. That got me looking around a bit at that site. Of course to

use

> it on a BMW you'd have to get a translator so you could figure out

which

> marking was Guttentight. : ) > > I was thinking about you this morning after reading your comments.

I may

> be riding up to the Sturgis dealer tomorrow to get the last parts

for a

> bit for my R100RT project. I was remembering when you were up here

in

> May 2002 for the tech day. I think I still have a picture of your

bike

> with a little snow man on the seat. : ) Then I remember you and

your

> buddy and Dale Nordlie all taking a ride on Sunday morning on

Vanocker

> Canyon for a mile or two and if I recall correctly all three of you

went

> down on the ice. I'll be asking the dealer tomorrow for road

conditions

> on Vanocker. This morning at a few minutes after 9 they didn't

know what

> the conditions were. I'll be on the KLR so maybe I'll just ride it > anyway for the adventure. > > Best, > > Jeff > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

Hi Jeff....I've never had the chance to work on any BMW's but I have worked on my share of German made production equipment and have found that not only are you required to torque fasteners Guttentight the more critical fasteners require a two step proceedure, with of course the first step being Gettentight.... ....have a great evening...Greg

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "traderpro2003" wrote:

> > Jeff - As an ultra- and adventure cyclist , I know no one that does > anything like this nor would I ever recommend it. I get bike chains > for $30-$40, so this cleaning would not be worth it. Short of cleaning > a bike chain with a Park tool and keeping it lubed with Pedros, I'll > never see a reason to go this insanely [sic] far. I logged over 10k > miles on a road bike chain, and it was still within stretch limits. > Clean and lube after every significant ride and replace it before a > major event (Careterra Austral anyone?) or when it's at/beyond stretch > limit and you'll maximize your ride time and save money.

Looks like Sheldon Brown hooked a big one. ;-{>

Say it ain't so, Jud! I just ordered one of his chain maintenance kits. 8~) __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "traderpro2003" wrote: > > > > Jeff - As an ultra- and adventure cyclist , I know no one that does > > anything like this nor would I ever recommend it. I get bike chains > > for $30-$40, so this cleaning would not be worth it. Short of cleaning > > a bike chain with a Park tool and keeping it lubed with Pedros, I'll > > never see a reason to go this insanely [sic] far. I logged over 10k > > miles on a road bike chain, and it was still within stretch limits. > > Clean and lube after every significant ride and replace it before a > > major event (Careterra Austral anyone?) or when it's at/beyond stretch > > limit and you'll maximize your ride time and save money. > > Looks like Sheldon Brown hooked a big one. ;-{> >

Snookered...ya buggers! I was taking Jeff Saline seriously (for once)...never happen again. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:

> > Say it ain't so, Jud! I just ordered one of his chain maintenance > kits. 8~) > > __Arden > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "traderpro2003"

> wrote: > > > > > > Jeff - As an ultra- and adventure cyclist , I know no one that > does > > > anything like this nor would I ever recommend it. I get bike > chains > > > for $30-$40, so this cleaning would not be worth it. Short of > cleaning > > > a bike chain with a Park tool and keeping it lubed with Pedros, > I'll > > > never see a reason to go this insanely [sic] far. I logged

over

> 10k > > > miles on a road bike chain, and it was still within stretch > limits. > > > Clean and lube after every significant ride and replace it

before

> a > > > major event (Careterra Austral anyone?) or when it's at/beyond > stretch > > > limit and you'll maximize your ride time and save money. > > > > Looks like Sheldon Brown hooked a big one. ;-{> > > >

Bicycle chain? Just dunk it in hot(liquified ) bees wax and that is the end of the cleaning and lubing for a while.Of course that will not work on a motorcycle chain. Regards,Gary--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> > Listers, > > A subject came up on another list and looking at one of the

reference web

> sites I stumbled upon one you may find of interest. It's about

chain

> maintenance on bicycles but I'm sure it could be adapted to work

with a

> KLR chain. > > http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html > > I'm not suggesting anyone try this method and I don't believe I will > either. But... it does show someone's been thinking a bit. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT >