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Posted: **Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:06 am**

My bike fell over the other day and I couldn't pick it up with the standard textbook method of putting you back to it, grabbing a handlebar and something farther back with the other hand, and lifting with your legs. When it's on the ground, the bike lays almost horizontal, so you have to get down so low you have no leverage. Fianlly got it up withthe help of a freind. But what if I'm alone? David

Posted: **Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:01 pm**

Sucks for you, dude! The KLR really is a beastie to pick up. I found myself in a hole, a large hole, underneath my KLR. I not only had to get out from under it, a mean feat unto itself, but then I had to drag the KLR out and stand it up. I do indeed know from whence you speak! I had a worse time though a couple of years ago, in the spring, ght ground was saturated. I was taking a shortcut through a new housing development with a gravel road. Actually, it was just an inch of gravel on top of the clay. About 100 yards in I realized that I was slowing down. I didn't realize that I was sinking more and more as I went forward. By the time I stopped I was up to the axles in muck. I got off the bike and it stood up all by itself. I won't bother telling you how I got out, but it was a treat! So much for the off-road capabilities.

Posted: **Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:32 pm**

mikeypep wrote:

> > > Sucks for you, dude! The KLR really is a beastie to pick up. I found > myself in a hole, a large hole, underneath my KLR. I not only had to > get out from under it, a mean feat unto itself, but then I had to drag > the KLR out and stand it up. I do indeed know from whence you speak!

Yeah, I was there, too. I was coming up to a ditch that I didn't see, locked up the front tire, and went down kind of hard, and the bike went into the ditch. I ended up getting the bike upright, holding the handlebars, and using the clutch and throttle to help me get it up and out the other side of the ditch. It was sure shooting out a lot of rocks and dirt behind it... but being by myself, that's the only thing I could think of. When I got it out of the ditch, rather than keeping the throttle down and letting the clutch out all the way, I jumped on the clutch, let go of the throttle, and grabbed that front brake to keep it from going back into the ditch. I was then able to push it a ways to get it away from the edge of the ditch. Unfortunately, it broke the center hub out of my fan, and bent my shifter. But with the help of the great people on klr650.net, I was back up and running in no time. BTW, if you ever break the metal center out of your plastic fan, use JB Weld to put it back in place. That stuff is the absolute man. Anyways, if you are in a hole, and you have to get your KLR out of it, that would be one way, but I'm telling you what, you have to have cracker jack timing, or your bike will take on a life of its own as soon as you clear the lip of the ditch. If you don't get it out far enough, you'll both be headed back down to the bottom of it. Either way, KLRs rule. Have a good one, all. Scott

Posted: **Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:49 pm**

The deadman. Two hands on in-the-dirt handlebar (at the grip) and use the leverage. It's the only way to apply mech advantage by yourself to the engine block (your enemy). That thing they teach you in MSC about your back...blah blah...they need to get out in the sand and mud. Whatever you do, practice 'exiting' the bike in sand and get good at it. You don't ever want to get a leg, etc. pinned under the machine. Brian

Posted: **Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:06 pm**

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "davseidman" wrote:

> > My bike fell over the other day and I couldn't pick it up with the standard textbook > method of putting you back to it, grabbing a handlebar and something farther back with > the other hand, and lifting with your legs. When it's on the ground, the bike lays almost > horizontal, so you have to get down so low you have no leverage. Fianlly got it up > withthe help of a freind. But what if I'm alone? >

Same thing happened to me in Batopilas canyon on my DR650. The bike just laid down on the road like a limpet. Couldn't get it up. I took off some riding gear and took a breather. The 7500-foot elevation didn't help any. Then I took my bag off the rack. Still no go; I was breathing harder and starting to notice I had mangled my thumb in the biff. I took another breather and swore under my breath who had stopped a few switchbacks behind me for a photo op. In the end, I dragged the wheels over the edge of the ditch, and rocked the bike on the footpeg. That got it up to about 30 deg. from horizontal. That was enough to allow me to get it vertical. Once I got it up, I rolled it down to a fairly level spot, put down the sidestand, and lit a cigar.

Posted: **Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:26 am**

One of the few enjoyable things about falling down with the old airhead GSPD is how it sits at a 45% angle on the crashbars. Is the KLR any easier with the aftermarket crash bars?

----- Original Message ----- From: traderpro2003 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:49 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: how to pick up a KLR 650 The deadman. Two hands on in-the-dirt handlebar (at the grip) and use the leverage. It's the only way to apply mech advantage by yourself to the engine block (your enemy). That thing they teach you in MSC about your back...blah blah...they need to get out in the sand and mud. Whatever you do, practice 'exiting' the bike in sand and get good at it. You don't ever want to get a leg, etc. pinned under the machine. Brian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:30 am**

Granted, I was 21-26 while I owned a new Yamaha DT-1 250 but I never had as big of a problem with getting a foot down, far enough, to prevent tipping over or picking up the bike afterward. 90% of the time, I ride with someone else and their bikes (BMW F650GS and/or a Suzuki 650 V-Strum) seem to only need one person to pick them up. I always need extra help. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "davseidman" wrote:

> > My bike fell over the other day and I couldn't pick it up with the

standard textbook

> method of putting you back to it, grabbing a handlebar and

something farther back with

> the other hand, and lifting with your legs. When it's on the

ground, the bike lays almost

> horizontal, so you have to get down so low you have no leverage.

Fianlly got it up

> withthe help of a freind. But what if I'm alone? > > David >

Posted: **Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:04 am**

I've had the pleasure of picking up both the KLR and BMW twins. The BMW twins may weigh 200lbs more, but with the cylinders sticking out, you get a good start on the problem. The KLR nerf bars don't make the job any easier, it still lays down pretty flat when its on its side. Solution? Keep the rubber side down

Dean Wegner '02 KLR650 '96 R1100RT

On 12/18/07, Mike Thompson wrote: > > One of the few enjoyable things about falling down with the old airhead > GSPD > is how it sits at a 45% angle on the crashbars. Is the KLR any easier with > the aftermarket crash bars? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: traderpro2003 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:49 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: how to pick up a KLR 650 > > The deadman. Two hands on in-the-dirt handlebar (at the grip) and use > the leverage. It's the only way to apply mech advantage by yourself to > the engine block (your enemy). That thing they teach you in MSC about > your back...blah blah...they need to get out in the sand and mud. > Whatever you do, practice 'exiting' the bike in sand and get good at > it. You don't ever want to get a leg, etc. pinned under the machine. > > Brian > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:20 am**

The only time I had a get off on my KLR was when I was stuck in traffic and I decided to cut across a construction area. When I got to the other side there was a ditch leading to the other road where I was headed. I was new to the KLR and was still in dirt bike mode when I hit the ditch. A nice blip of the the throttle to lift the front end as you hit the bottom of the ditch and then power up. That was the theory anyway. The reality was that the front end didn't lift a bit and when it hit the bottom of the ditch it stuck. Hard. So it was like hitting a wall. I was thrown forward on the bike, but still upright, and then fell almost slow motion to my left and laid the beast down. I did this in front of 5 o' clock traffic, so I don't know if it was embarrassment or adrenaline, but I grabbed it and picked it back up. I didn't use the right technique. I was facing the bike and squatted and grabbed the seat and lifted. Even with the shot of adrenaline and embarrassment, I can tell you that there was a point in the lift when I didn't think I was going to make it. Man it was heavy! Nothing like the RM125's of my youth. Plus I really hurt my shoulder. The full force of the impact was transmitted into my left shoulder. I hit hard enough to loosen both mirrors so they were swinging wildly. I knew my arm was hurt. I was hard to move it, but I got home. The doctor said I had a torn rotator cuff and ordered an MRI. I said no way to the MRI since my cost would be about $350. The doc said that if it was a torn rotator cuff, it would not get any better. So I figured if it didn't get any better, THEN I would get the MRI and possible surgery. It took a long time to heal, but heal it did. Completely. A physical therapist friend I also saw said that he was sure that it wasn't a torn rotator cuff, so he was right and I saved the $$. All a very long way of saying that the KLR is stinkin' heavy! If you have the wrong angle, fugeddaboutit. If the seat would have been facing down hill, no way. If the footing was bad, no way. It makes you wonder how you pick up one of those 800+ lb bikes. My dad tipped over his Royal Star right there in his neighborhood and couldn't pick it up. He really shouldn't even try. He's a big man (6' 4", 270), but old and not in good health. He had to have a neighbor help. My guess is that a Gold Wing or whatever is enough bottom heavy to make it easier to lift, or possibly there is enough stuff around it that it doesn't really lay down flat at all. It's laying down, but never goes past about 30 degrees or something.

OK, enough rambling. Thanks for bringing back such painful memories of my KLR lift.

Don+ _____ From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jud Jones Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:06 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: how to pick up a KLR 650 --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "davseidman" wrote:

> > My bike fell over the other day and I couldn't pick it up with the

standard textbook

> method of putting you back to it, grabbing a handlebar and something

farther back with

> the other hand, and lifting with your legs. When it's on the ground, the

bike lays almost

> horizontal, so you have to get down so low you have no leverage. Fianlly

got it up

> withthe help of a freind. But what if I'm alone? >

Same thing happened to me in Batopilas canyon on my DR650. The bike just laid down on the road like a limpet. Couldn't get it up. I took off some riding gear and took a breather. The 7500-foot elevation didn't help any. Then I took my bag off the rack. Still no go; I was breathing harder and starting to notice I had mangled my thumb in the biff. I took another breather and swore under my breath who had stopped a few switchbacks behind me for a photo op. In the end, I dragged the wheels over the edge of the ditch, and rocked the bike on the footpeg. That got it up to about 30 deg. from horizontal. That was enough to allow me to get it vertical. Once I got it up, I rolled it down to a fairly level spot, put down the sidestand, and lit a cigar. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:35 am**

My KLR is a bitch to get back up (with gas in tank). Took 3 of us to lift it last year on the White rim (old and tired - need a lighter dirt bike. On the other hand, I knocked my Concourse over in the driveway (600 pounds) and lifted it right up (the wrong way). Shall we say adrenaline and being in horror at screwing the plastic helped get it up. I did screw up the plastic, the foot-peg, the mirror. Lot to be said for naked type bikes (except in winter). Criswell

On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Don Pendergraft wrote: > The only time I had a get off on my KLR was when I was stuck in > traffic and > I decided to cut across a construction area. When I got to the > other side > there was a ditch leading to the other road where I was headed. I > was new to > the KLR and was still in dirt bike mode when I hit the ditch. A > nice blip of > the the throttle to lift the front end as you hit the bottom of the > ditch > and then power up. That was the theory anyway. The reality was that > the > front end didn't lift a bit and when it hit the bottom of the ditch it > stuck. Hard. So it was like hitting a wall. I was thrown forward on > the > bike, but still upright, and then fell almost slow motion to my > left and > laid the beast down. I did this in front of 5 o' clock traffic, so > I don't > know if it was embarrassment or adrenaline, but I grabbed it and > picked it > back up. I didn't use the right technique. I was facing the bike and > squatted and grabbed the seat and lifted. Even with the shot of > adrenaline > and embarrassment, I can tell you that there was a point in the > lift when I > didn't think I was going to make it. Man it was heavy! Nothing like > the > RM125's of my youth. Plus I really hurt my shoulder. The full force > of the > impact was transmitted into my left shoulder. I hit hard enough to > loosen > both mirrors so they were swinging wildly. I knew my arm was hurt. > I was > hard to move it, but I got home. The doctor said I had a torn > rotator cuff > and ordered an MRI. I said no way to the MRI since my cost would be > about > $350. The doc said that if it was a torn rotator cuff, it would not > get any > better. So I figured if it didn't get any better, THEN I would get > the MRI > and possible surgery. It took a long time to heal, but heal it did. > Completely. A physical therapist friend I also saw said that he was > sure > that it wasn't a torn rotator cuff, so he was right and I saved the > $$. > > > All a very long way of saying that the KLR is stinkin' heavy! If > you have > the wrong angle, fugeddaboutit. If the seat would have been facing > down > hill, no way. If the footing was bad, no way. It makes you wonder > how you > pick up one of those 800+ lb bikes. My dad tipped over his Royal > Star right > there in his neighborhood and couldn't pick it up. He really > shouldn't even > try. He's a big man (6' 4", 270), but old and not in good health. > He had to > have a neighbor help. My guess is that a Gold Wing or whatever is > enough > bottom heavy to make it easier to lift, or possibly there is enough > stuff > around it that it doesn't really lay down flat at all. It's laying > down, but > never goes past about 30 degrees or something. > > OK, enough rambling. Thanks for bringing back such painful memories > of my > KLR lift. > > Don+ > > _____ > > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Jud Jones > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:06 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: how to pick up a KLR 650 > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro > ups.com, > "davseidman" wrote: > > > > My bike fell over the other day and I couldn't pick it up with the > standard textbook > > method of putting you back to it, grabbing a handlebar and something > farther back with > > the other hand, and lifting with your legs. When it's on the > ground, the > bike lays almost > > horizontal, so you have to get down so low you have no leverage. > Fianlly > got it up > > withthe help of a freind. But what if I'm alone? > > > > Same thing happened to me in Batopilas canyon on my DR650. The bike > just > laid down on the > road like a limpet. Couldn't get it up. I took off some riding gear > and took > a breather. The > 7500-foot elevation didn't help any. Then I took my bag off the > rack. Still > no go; I was > breathing harder and starting to notice I had mangled my thumb in > the biff. > I took another > breather and swore under my breath who had stopped a few > switchbacks behind > me for a > photo op. In the end, I dragged the wheels over the edge of the > ditch, and > rocked the bike > on the footpeg. That got it up to about 30 deg. from horizontal. > That was > enough to allow > me to get it vertical. Once I got it up, I rolled it down to a > fairly level > spot, put down the > sidestand, and lit a cigar. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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