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Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:25 am**

In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our local newspaper (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following assertions (I'm paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have proof that the world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos from outer space of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda of the liberal media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would need curved lumber to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support a commission that would build a big wand that would extend from the earth out and take a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our kids that the earth is round is "junk science" and they need to understand that as part of God's master plan, it is flat...... To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry Stottlemyer" wrote:

> > Yeah But we never went to the moon those pictures and film were

taken on a sound stage. :p

> And if you say that within ear shot of Buzz Adrin He'll punch you

in the face, he's done it

> before. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr"

wrote:

> > > > I am an advocate of the space program, not for the new products

that

> > result, but to keep the adventure alive. > > > > albatross > > who would take a 1 way ticket to Mars if I could be the first... > > >

Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:38 am**

It looks like this " lady ", for lack of a better term, thinks that taking 2 vitamin B6 is equal to one pill of B12 ........ But on the serious side, why would a paper print this ? a) It's funny ? b) Comments reflects average IQ levels ? c) Paper sells more copies ? d) Piss normal people off ? --- Spike55 wrote:

> In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our > local newspaper > (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following > assertions (I'm > paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have > proof that the > world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos > from outer space > of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda > of the liberal > media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would > need curved lumber > to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support > a commission that > would build a big wand that would extend from the > earth out and take > a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our > kids that the earth > is round is "junk science" and they need to > understand that as part > of God's master plan, it is flat...... > > To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry > Stottlemyer" > wrote: > > > > Yeah But we never went to the moon those pictures > and film were > taken on a sound stage. :p > > And if you say that within ear shot of Buzz Adrin > He'll punch you > in the face, he's done it > > before. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" > > wrote: > > > > > > I am an advocate of the space program, not for > the new products > that > > > result, but to keep the adventure alive. > > > > > > albatross > > > who would take a 1 way ticket to Mars if I could > be the first... > > > > > > > >

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Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:07 pm**

Our local newspaper allows all people an equal opportunity to express themselves, within limits of course. Apparently this lady is from a more rural local county but that in no way means that is why she has stated what she did. It would be interesting to know more about her so as to discern why she thinks this way. Seems like she would have a whole parallel universe of explanations for things many of us accept as fact. What is the newspaper's motivation? I doubt that this one letter to the editor (< 250 words) will trigger increased sales but it does make one think about what you do/don't believe and why. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain wrote:

> > It looks like this " lady ", for lack of a better > term, thinks that taking 2 vitamin B6 is equal to one > pill of B12 ........ > But on the serious side, why would a paper print this > ? > a) It's funny ? > b) Comments reflects average IQ levels ? > c) Paper sells more copies ? > d) Piss normal people off ? > > --- Spike55 wrote: > > > In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our > > local newspaper > > (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following > > assertions (I'm > > paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have > > proof that the > > world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos > > from outer space > > of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda > > of the liberal > > media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would > > need curved lumber > > to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support > > a commission that > > would build a big wand that would extend from the > > earth out and take > > a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our > > kids that the earth > > is round is "junk science" and they need to > > understand that as part > > of God's master plan, it is flat...... > > > > To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry > > Stottlemyer" > > wrote: > > > > > > Yeah But we never went to the moon those pictures > > and film were > > taken on a sound stage. :p > > > And if you say that within ear shot of Buzz Adrin > > He'll punch you > > in the face, he's done it > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I am an advocate of the space program, not for > > the new products > > that > > > > result, but to keep the adventure alive. > > > > > > > > albatross > > > > who would take a 1 way ticket to Mars if I could > > be the first... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:03 pm**

Rebutting this stuff is like trying answer the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" without looking like some kind of throwback. DC Spike55 wrote:

> In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our local newspaper > (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following assertions (I'm > paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have proof that the > world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos from outer space > of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda of the liberal > media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would need curved lumber > to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support a commission that > would build a big wand that would extend from the earth out and take > a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our kids that the earth > is round is "junk science" and they need to understand that as part > of God's master plan, it is flat...... > > To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "Kerry Stottlemyer" > wrote: > > > > Yeah But we never went to the moon those pictures and film were > taken on a sound stage. :p > > And if you say that within ear shot of Buzz Adrin He'll punch you > in the face, he's done it > > before. > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "albatrossklr" > wrote: > > > > > > I am an advocate of the space program, not for the new products > that > > > result, but to keep the adventure alive. > > > > > > albatross > > > who would take a 1 way ticket to Mars if I could be the first... > > > > > > >

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Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:45 pm**

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote:

> > In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our local newspaper > (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following assertions (I'm > paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have proof that the > world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos from outer space > of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda of the liberal > media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would need curved lumber > to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support a commission that > would build a big wand that would extend from the earth out and take > a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our kids that the earth > is round is "junk science" and they need to understand that as part > of God's master plan, it is flat...... > > To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. >

The proposition that the earth is a globe moving through space at 1000mph is referred to as "the orbiterran fallacy". It is demonstrated amply every time we send up a space shuttle. You will note that when the shuttle comes back down, the earth is still there. If it were moving through space, when the shuttle came back down, Earth would be long gone. Also note that when the shuttle lands at Edwards AFB, it lands, rolls to a stop, and stays there. Try landing a pea on a basketball. It will roll off every time. Photos taken from space that purport to show a spherical earth suspended in space are easily explained by the relativistic bending of light rays in the presence of large gravitational fields.

Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:19 pm**

I'll drink to Jennifer. Now that is a real lady. Criswell

On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Spike55 wrote: > Our local newspaper allows all people an equal opportunity to express > themselves, within limits of course. Apparently this lady is from a > more rural local county but that in no way means that is why she has > stated what she did. It would be interesting to know more about her > so as to discern why she thinks this way. Seems like she would have > a whole parallel universe of explanations for things many of us > accept as fact. > > What is the newspaper's motivation? I doubt that this one letter to > the editor (< 250 words) will trigger increased sales but it does > make one think about what you do/don't believe and why. > > Don R100, A6F > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain > wrote: > > > > It looks like this " lady ", for lack of a better > > term, thinks that taking 2 vitamin B6 is equal to one > > pill of B12 ........ > > But on the serious side, why would a paper print this > > ? > > a) It's funny ? > > b) Comments reflects average IQ levels ? > > c) Paper sells more copies ? > > d) Piss normal people off ? > > > > --- Spike55 wrote: > > > > > In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our > > > local newspaper > > > (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following > > > assertions (I'm > > > paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have > > > proof that the > > > world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos > > > from outer space > > > of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda > > > of the liberal > > > media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would > > > need curved lumber > > > to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support > > > a commission that > > > would build a big wand that would extend from the > > > earth out and take > > > a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our > > > kids that the earth > > > is round is "junk science" and they need to > > > understand that as part > > > of God's master plan, it is flat...... > > > > > > To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry > > > Stottlemyer" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah But we never went to the moon those pictures > > > and film were > > > taken on a sound stage. :p > > > > And if you say that within ear shot of Buzz Adrin > > > He'll punch you > > > in the face, he's done it > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am an advocate of the space program, not for > > > the new products > > > that > > > > > result, but to keep the adventure alive. > > > > > > > > > > albatross > > > > > who would take a 1 way ticket to Mars if I could > > > be the first... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:03 pm**

I learned a little bit about Jennifer in the last go-around a few months ago. But as a relative newcomer (2006), I guess you had to be there to appreciate the Jennifer you all seem to cherish. She must have been real special. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Criswell wrote:

> > I'll drink to Jennifer. Now that is a real lady. > > Criswell > On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Spike55 wrote: > > > Our local newspaper allows all people an equal opportunity to

express

> > themselves, within limits of course. Apparently this lady is from

a

> > more rural local county but that in no way means that is why she

has

> > stated what she did. It would be interesting to know more about

her

> > so as to discern why she thinks this way. Seems like she would

have

> > a whole parallel universe of explanations for things many of us > > accept as fact. > > > > What is the newspaper's motivation? I doubt that this one letter

to

> > the editor (< 250 words) will trigger increased sales but it does > > make one think about what you do/don't believe and why. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain > > wrote: > > > > > > It looks like this " lady ", for lack of a better > > > term, thinks that taking 2 vitamin B6 is equal to one > > > pill of B12 ........ > > > But on the serious side, why would a paper print this > > > ? > > > a) It's funny ? > > > b) Comments reflects average IQ levels ? > > > c) Paper sells more copies ? > > > d) Piss normal people off ? > > > > > > --- Spike55 wrote: > > > > > > > In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our > > > > local newspaper > > > > (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following > > > > assertions (I'm > > > > paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have > > > > proof that the > > > > world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos > > > > from outer space > > > > of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda > > > > of the liberal > > > > media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would > > > > need curved lumber > > > > to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support > > > > a commission that > > > > would build a big wand that would extend from the > > > > earth out and take > > > > a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our > > > > kids that the earth > > > > is round is "junk science" and they need to > > > > understand that as part > > > > of God's master plan, it is flat...... > > > > > > > > To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. > > > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry > > > > Stottlemyer" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yeah But we never went to the moon those pictures > > > > and film were > > > > taken on a sound stage. :p > > > > > And if you say that within ear shot of Buzz Adrin > > > > He'll punch you > > > > in the face, he's done it > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am an advocate of the space program, not for > > > > the new products > > > > that > > > > > > result, but to keep the adventure alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > albatross > > > > > > who would take a 1 way ticket to Mars if I could > > > > be the first... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > ______________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:02 pm**

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:54:52 -0700 David Critchley writes:

> This is NKLR because it is aimed at a 6 Volt system Yamaha. But > anyway, > I have not used a timing light for a couple of decades or so, and > this > question did not apply then. > Are there 6 V timing lights, or can you change the bulb or > something? > I'm sure that when this came out they were probably using the > candle > that they read the Latin instruction book with also to time it, but > I > would like to do it the easy way, using electricity. > Thanks in advance. > DC

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> DC, The short answer is use the 12 volt timing light you or a buddy have. Just hook it up to a 12 volt battery instead of the battery on the Yamaha. It'll work well as long as you remember to connect the sparkplug wire hook up. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

Posted: **Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:16 pm**

A well-known scientist once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the centre of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down."

----- Original Message ----- From: Spike55 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR_Space - This really happened! In a Nov 12, 2007 "Letter to the Editor" in our local newspaper (Harrisburg, PA), a lady made the following assertions (I'm paraphrasing a bit but not much): 1.) We don't have proof that the world is round. 2.) How do we know that the photos from outer space of the earth aren't fakes? 3.) It is all propaganda of the liberal media! 4.) If the earth was round then we would need curved lumber to build our houses. 5.) Pres. Bush should support a commission that would build a big wand that would extend from the earth out and take a "real" picture of the earth. 6.) Teaching our kids that the earth is round is "junk science" and they need to understand that as part of God's master plan, it is flat...... To date, I haven't seen a rebuttal. Don R100, A6F

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