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review of the msf dirt bike school dvd
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:13 pm
by Jeff Saline
Howdy,
I recently decided to add a bit to my collection of motorcycle riding
stuff. Along with half a dozen books I purchased a DVD of the MSF Dirt
Bike School. This evening I took a look at it and here are my thoughts.
The short story is for an experienced dirt bike (off pavement) rider it
may reinforce a few techniques but it isn't worth the money. For a
novice it will teach some helpful techniques but is not a substitute for
hands on training.
The DVD is divided into 12 sections. It starts with equipment you must
have and ends with a wrap up. In between those sections are discussions
and demonstrations concerning:
- Controls and pre ride inspection, getting on and off the bike and
riding posture.
- Starting the bike and the "Friction Zone" (clutch engagement).
- Proper Stance.
- Let's roll.
- Braking and shifting.
- Standing up and lower body control
- Turning and counterbalancing.
- Riding responsibly and riding management.
- Negotiating hills, K-turns and traversing hills.
- Riding over obstacles.
The first 3 sections you probably already know if you ride a motorcycle.
The sections on stance, braking, standing up and body control, turning
and counterbalancing, negotiating hills, the K-turn and riding over
obstacles are probably worth watching but not worth the cost of the DVD.
Total length is about 65 minutes and I have to admit I fell asleep during
the pre ride inspection section. I did wake up when they started a bike.
Once they got riding I was able to stay awake.
I wouldn't suggest folks that ride get this unless they have about $10
they just don't know what to do with and have a desire to add one more
DVD to their collection. I bought my copy at
www.amazon.com and got free
shipping since it was part of an order over $25.
Now if I was teaching kids to ride I'd say it could or would be helpful.
Probably even more helpful would be a good safe area where someone could
practice the techniques taught in this course.
At best I'd suggest this is a one time view DVD if you just gotta say
you've seen it.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
review of the msf dirt bike school dvd
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:50 pm
by traderpro2003
Jeff - Thanks for the review..and chuckle. I'm still waiting for
the "How to jump this log" video...you know, the one where you see
that KTM rider near 80-degrees no worries. Somewhere around 70-
degrees my velcro straps always give way...
After a view, I usually forward these so-so videos to eBay b/c it is
helpful to that person you described.
Cheers - Brian
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I recently decided to add a bit to my collection of motorcycle
riding
> stuff. Along with half a dozen books I purchased a DVD of the MSF
Dirt
> Bike School. This evening I took a look at it and here are my
thoughts.
>
> The short story is for an experienced dirt bike (off pavement)
rider it
> may reinforce a few techniques but it isn't worth the money. For a
> novice it will teach some helpful techniques but is not a
substitute for
> hands on training.
>
> The DVD is divided into 12 sections. It starts with equipment you
must
> have and ends with a wrap up. In between those sections are
discussions
> and demonstrations concerning:
>
> - Controls and pre ride inspection, getting on and off the bike and
> riding posture.
> - Starting the bike and the "Friction Zone" (clutch engagement).
> - Proper Stance.
> - Let's roll.
> - Braking and shifting.
> - Standing up and lower body control
> - Turning and counterbalancing.
> - Riding responsibly and riding management.
> - Negotiating hills, K-turns and traversing hills.
> - Riding over obstacles.
>
> The first 3 sections you probably already know if you ride a
motorcycle.
> The sections on stance, braking, standing up and body control,
turning
> and counterbalancing, negotiating hills, the K-turn and riding over
> obstacles are probably worth watching but not worth the cost of the
DVD.
>
> Total length is about 65 minutes and I have to admit I fell asleep
during
> the pre ride inspection section. I did wake up when they started a
bike.
> Once they got riding I was able to stay awake.
>
> I wouldn't suggest folks that ride get this unless they have about
$10
> they just don't know what to do with and have a desire to add one
more
> DVD to their collection. I bought my copy at
www.amazon.com and
got free
> shipping since it was part of an order over $25.
>
> Now if I was teaching kids to ride I'd say it could or would be
helpful.
> Probably even more helpful would be a good safe area where someone
could
> practice the techniques taught in this course.
>
> At best I'd suggest this is a one time view DVD if you just gotta
say
> you've seen it.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff Saline
> ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
> Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
> The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
> 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
>
vendor friday: thermo-bob is here: radiator bypass kits now availabl
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:07 am
by Bill Watson
Ed Dobson wrote:
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Looks good.
Suggestions for version II.
1) Mounting bracket for t'stat housing.
2) Fewer cap-screws for housing, 3 or 4, with lower profile heads.
3) Shorter, beaded-barb, hose fittings.
4) Lower-profile constant-tension hose clamps.
ED
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thanks for the input Ed, here are my replies:
1) My close-up picture might make it look bigger than it is. It's only 6.9 ounces with the thermostat... my original was 21 ounces and has been on the bike without problems for a few years. However, if someone wants to slide a bracket under a bolt head, it can be done.
2) I'd be comfortable going from 6 to 5, but I'm not comfortable with the weight trade to go to 4 or 3 as I'd probably make the flanges thicker to prevent warpage. As for lower profile heads, I like how they look but was worried with the lack of ability to provide any meaningful preload as the allen size drops, plus the axial engagement of the allen wrench shrinks too. But I'm with you on the better-looking count.
3) Do you mean on the housing, or the brass fittings? Interesting point to talk through.
4) Also a good point - I want them to not leak, and haven't seen KHI use them anywhere on the cooling hoses ( other than vent hoses). Still interested if you have an example, as my first ones are probably a bit bulky... I'd at least like to go 'down' to the size that KHI uses on the hose ends today on the radiator tank and water pump.
Thanks for the input.
Bill
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