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loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:02 am
by a14@att.net
> I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a bad attitude.
> I just don't understand the big deal in having a quiet bike.
> At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky Racers zip up and
> down my street all hours of the day and night with loud ass exhaust
> notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with an aftermarket
> exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no where near as loud
> as the idiots in my area.
> I can understand if you live in a quiet area outside of town, rural
> type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to crank it up.
> I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells.
> Kerry
>
>
Are you trying to say you want to be a loud idiot or differentiating
yourself by saying they are the loud idiots and you are a not as loud
idiot?
One more question. If all the HD's and Ricky Racers in your area decide
to kill themselves would you kill yourself too?
Maybe... just maybe if you try to not add to the problem instead of
being part of the problem your neighbors would not hate you.
You can have plenty of fun on a bike without having to be obnoxious.
Walt (a mostly quite idiot not hated by his neighbors)
loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:39 am
by Randy Kuklis
These riders are probably unaware of the damage they
are doing to our sport. Because of loud pipes, many
communities and public/state/federal parks have banned
motorcycles altogether. There is also talk from the
other side of the pond (and we'll get the ripple
effect from all this), of banning aftermarket parts
and accessories (restrictions apply). Unfortunately,
we are our own enemy. The big deal is not all road
users share our passion for motorcycling, or in some
cases, the sound of the exhaust note, and we all know,
there are more people out there that would rather see
motorcycles go by the way of the dinosaur. So any
fuel we can give them, like loud pipes, or reckless
riding behavior, (on public roads) is turned against
us.
--- a14@... wrote:
> > I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a bad
> attitude.
> > I just don't understand the big deal in having a
> quiet bike.
> > At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky
> Racers zip up and
> > down my street all hours of the day and night with
> loud ass exhaust
> > notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with
> an aftermarket
> > exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no
> where near as loud
> > as the idiots in my area.
> > I can understand if you live in a quiet area
> outside of town, rural
> > type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to
> crank it up.
> > I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells.
> > Kerry
> >
> >
>
> Are you trying to say you want to be a loud idiot or
> differentiating
> yourself by saying they are the loud idiots and you
> are a not as loud
> idiot?
>
> One more question. If all the HD's and Ricky Racers
> in your area decide
> to kill themselves would you kill yourself too?
>
> Maybe... just maybe if you try to not add to the
> problem instead of
> being part of the problem your neighbors would not
> hate you.
>
> You can have plenty of fun on a bike without having
> to be obnoxious.
>
> Walt (a mostly quite idiot not hated by his
> neighbors)
>
>
>
>
loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:51 am
by Kerry Stottlemyer
Again not to be a PITA but I didn't buy this bike to be kind to my
neighbors, If I wanted a quiet bike I would have bought a Vespa. I'm
a HOT ROD guy what can I say.
But please don't get me wrong the idoits I'm refering to are riding/
driving illegal bikes and cars. You can hear the differance when
they drive by and you get a guy that cranks open the throttle on a
straight piped bike and well you get 200+dB but if the same guy came
rolling through and was a bit more reserved with the throttle it
would be a lot less noise.
It just seems to me that a few people here on this board are more
concerned with how loud their bike is then anything else. the reason
I'm adding a supertrap to the bike is to get rid of the lawn mower
sound coming from the tail pipe. If it makes it louder oh well,I
won't be putting the stock pipe back on.
Personaly I like the sound of a of a throaty engine and couldn't
care less how loud my bike is.
Kerry
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, a14@... wrote:
>
> > I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a bad attitude.
> > I just don't understand the big deal in having a quiet bike.
> > At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky Racers zip up
and
> > down my street all hours of the day and night with loud ass
exhaust
> > notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with an aftermarket
> > exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no where near as
loud
> > as the idiots in my area.
> > I can understand if you live in a quiet area outside of town,
rural
> > type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to crank it up.
> > I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells.
> > Kerry
> >
> >
>
> Are you trying to say you want to be a loud idiot or
differentiating
> yourself by saying they are the loud idiots and you are a not as
loud
> idiot?
>
> One more question. If all the HD's and Ricky Racers in your area
decide
> to kill themselves would you kill yourself too?
>
> Maybe... just maybe if you try to not add to the problem instead of
> being part of the problem your neighbors would not hate you.
>
> You can have plenty of fun on a bike without having to be
obnoxious.
>
> Walt (a mostly quite idiot not hated by his neighbors)
>
loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:30 pm
by Donald Dickerson
I've been on both sides of this issue, as I once rode Harleys with
rather loud (never ran them open) pipes, and I'll have to admit, I
never came close to getting hit by someone changing lanes on top of me.
Then I got a 76 GL1000 and ever since I started riding quiet bikes, I
frequently have to avoid getting sideswiped. I even had some stupid
cager chew me out for my KLR being too quiet and that was why he almost
ran over me. Never mind how the rest of that encounter went...
And while I agree that my KLR has an exhaust note reminiscent of the
old Honda Mini-Trail 50, I think I'll keep it quiet. A little louder
wouldn't be bad if it sounded better, but If my only choice is 75db, or
110db, I'll go for the 75. It would be nice if there were a decent
aftermarket exhaust for the KLR, but I have yet to find one I like, so
I'll stick with stock. I didn't buy this bike for performance. I have
an '83 V65 Honda for that.
Loud enough to hear is not too loud for most of us, but we have to
remember how many non-bikers see anyone on a motorcycle as a threat to
them, their way of life, everything. You cruise by and they hear
nothing, you're garbage, but you aren't offensive garbage. Rattle their
windows and they'll write the crooks in government and complain. And
we'll get more laws. Cagers outnumber us and they own the government.
This guy thinks he's different, but when laws are passed about loud
bikes, he'll be lumped with all the other idiots, and the cops won't be
able to tell the difference, and won't care. And we'll all end up
paying for people like him.
--- Kerry Stottlemyer wrote:
> Again not to be a PITA but I didn't buy this bike to be kind to my
> neighbors, If I wanted a quiet bike I would have bought a Vespa. I'm
> a HOT ROD guy what can I say.
> But please don't get me wrong the idoits I'm refering to are riding/
> driving illegal bikes and cars. You can hear the differance when
> they drive by and you get a guy that cranks open the throttle on a
> straight piped bike and well you get 200+dB but if the same guy came
> rolling through and was a bit more reserved with the throttle it
> would be a lot less noise.
> It just seems to me that a few people here on this board are more
> concerned with how loud their bike is then anything else. the reason
> I'm adding a supertrap to the bike is to get rid of the lawn mower
> sound coming from the tail pipe. If it makes it louder oh well,I
> won't be putting the stock pipe back on.
> Personaly I like the sound of a of a throaty engine and couldn't
> care less how loud my bike is.
> Kerry
>
>
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, a14@... wrote:
> >
> > > I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a bad attitude.
> > > I just don't understand the big deal in having a quiet bike.
> > > At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky Racers zip up
> and
> > > down my street all hours of the day and night with loud ass
> exhaust
> > > notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with an aftermarket
> > > exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are no where near as
> loud
> > > as the idiots in my area.
> > > I can understand if you live in a quiet area outside of town,
> rural
> > > type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to crank it up.
> > > I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells.
> > > Kerry
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Are you trying to say you want to be a loud idiot or
> differentiating
> > yourself by saying they are the loud idiots and you are a not as
> loud
> > idiot?
> >
> > One more question. If all the HD's and Ricky Racers in your area
> decide
> > to kill themselves would you kill yourself too?
> >
> > Maybe... just maybe if you try to not add to the problem instead of
> > being part of the problem your neighbors would not hate you.
> >
> > You can have plenty of fun on a bike without having to be
> obnoxious.
> >
> > Walt (a mostly quite idiot not hated by his neighbors)
> >
>
>
>
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loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:32 pm
by Stephen Grisanti
Just keep in mind that YOU may be the guy with the
loud pipe that passes the state legislator who finally
gets fed up enough to introduce the bill that limits
motorsyslists' freedoms in your state, and which
passes with overwhelming support. It can happen, it
might happen, and it just might be your fault.
I'm just thinking out loud on this.
Stephen
--- Kerry Stottlemyer wrote:
> Again not to be a PITA but I didn't buy this bike to
> be kind to my
> neighbors, If I wanted a quiet bike I would have
> bought a Vespa. I'm
> a HOT ROD guy what can I say.
> But please don't get me wrong the idoits I'm
> refering to are riding/
> driving illegal bikes and cars. You can hear the
> differance when
> they drive by and you get a guy that cranks open the
> throttle on a
> straight piped bike and well you get 200+dB but if
> the same guy came
> rolling through and was a bit more reserved with the
> throttle it
> would be a lot less noise.
> It just seems to me that a few people here on this
> board are more
> concerned with how loud their bike is then anything
> else. the reason
> I'm adding a supertrap to the bike is to get rid of
> the lawn mower
> sound coming from the tail pipe. If it makes it
> louder oh well,I
> won't be putting the stock pipe back on.
> Personaly I like the sound of a of a throaty engine
> and couldn't
> care less how loud my bike is.
> Kerry
>
>
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, a14@... wrote:
> >
> > > I'll apologize now if this seem like I have a
> bad attitude.
> > > I just don't understand the big deal in having a
> quiet bike.
> > > At least not in my area where the HD's and Ricky
> Racers zip up
> and
> > > down my street all hours of the day and night
> with loud ass
> exhaust
> > > notes. Now granted I have yet to hear a KLR with
> an aftermarket
> > > exhaust but I'd be willing to bet that they are
> no where near as
> loud
> > > as the idiots in my area.
> > > I can understand if you live in a quiet area
> outside of town,
> rural
> > > type setting. but in the suburbs I'm going to
> crank it up.
> > > I didn't buy a bike to ride it on egg shells.
> > > Kerry
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Are you trying to say you want to be a loud idiot
> or
> differentiating
> > yourself by saying they are the loud idiots and
> you are a not as
> loud
> > idiot?
> >
> > One more question. If all the HD's and Ricky
> Racers in your area
> decide
> > to kill themselves would you kill yourself too?
> >
> > Maybe... just maybe if you try to not add to the
> problem instead of
> > being part of the problem your neighbors would not
> hate you.
> >
> > You can have plenty of fun on a bike without
> having to be
> obnoxious.
> >
> > Walt (a mostly quite idiot not hated by his
> neighbors)
> >
>
>
>
>
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loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:11 pm
by Jim Priest
On 2/1/07, Stephen Grisanti wrote:
> Just keep in mind that YOU may be the guy with the
> loud pipe that passes the state legislator who finally
> gets fed up enough to introduce the bill that limits
Already happening - I heard this on NPR one morning...
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/1128noise1128.html
Jim
pelican cases
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:37 pm
by Everett Sloan
It is called Caribou Luggage, I got the first one made for the KLR.
GREAT product, sadly been involved in 3 accidents, 1 pretty severe
and the cases are holding up great, plus the mounting racks work
great as crash bars.
Everett
loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:40 pm
by Kerry Stottlemyer
80 dB is totaly unrealistic 95 dB is more like it.
Normal traffic is louder then 80 dB
Here's a dB loudness rating range.
http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html
From this chart they would ban classical concerts.
Kerry
loud bikes make noise nklr
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:43 pm
by Stuart Mumford
> -----Original Message-----
> Personaly I like the sound of a of a throaty engine and couldn't
> care less how loud my bike is.
> Kerry
This is an indefensible, ridiculous, selfish, childish, antisocial attitude
and will, in the end, cost all of us something we enjoy.
If you really "couldn't care less about how loud your bike is", you should
just plumb the exhaut right up to your helmet and then you can enjoy it and
the rest of us don't have top suffer.
Needlessly loud, obnoxious bikes really piss me off, and I say this as
someone that owns 4 1/2 bikes and has owned a motorcycle for 30 of my 40
years on this planet.
Less sound = more ground
Thanks
CA Stu