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hid (was [dsn_klr650] heated clothing)
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:43 am
by Blake Sobiloff
On Oct 11, 2006, at 8:59 AM, E Hines wrote:
> HID is not legal in the United States. If you check on the HID
> site it even says it is for off-road only.
Almost.
HID *is* legal, but the lighting system (reflector and
lens) has to be designed for the HID capsule. It is illegal to
simply replace a standard bulb (like a halogen H4) with an HID
capsule in an on-road vehicle, but it is not illegal to install a
whole HID system (capsule, reflector and lens) that is DOT approved.
Of course, the legal way is a lot more expensive.
--
Blake Sobiloff
http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/>
http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/>
San Jose, CA (USA)
hid (was [dsn_klr650] heated clothing)
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:09 pm
by E.L. Green
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Blake Sobiloff
wrote:
>
> On Oct 11, 2006, at 8:59 AM, E Hines wrote:
> > HID is not legal in the United States. If you check on the HID
> > site it even says it is for off-road only.
>
> Almost.
HID *is* legal, but the lighting system (reflector
and
> lens) has to be designed for the HID capsule. It is illegal to
> simply replace a standard bulb (like a halogen H4) with an HID
> capsule in an on-road vehicle, but it is not illegal to install a
> whole HID system (capsule, reflector and lens) that is DOT
approved.
It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your on-road
motorcycle (oops, everybody with their IMS gas tank needs to get rid
of it and replace it with a steel one!), have an LED tail light
module rather than a proper DOT-approved bulb, disable the safety
switches on your kickstand or clutch lever (violates DOT safety regs,
y'know) or detonate a nuclear device within the city limits of Chico,
California ($500 fine if you do that -- yes, this is an actual law!).
Frankly, I'm more worried about technical limitations than what the
law says. Thus far, the cheapest HID conversion I found is this one,
which is probably a Chinese model sold by a Canadian web site:
http://cqlight.ca/product_info.php?cPath=91_92&products_id=113
But that capsule looks mighty long. Whether it actually fits in the
rather abbreviated KLR housing is a mystery to me...
_E
hid (was [dsn_klr650] heated clothing)
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:55 pm
by Matt Knowles
On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:53 PM, E.L. Green wrote:
> It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your on-road
> motorcycle
You better inform Triumph of that. They (and several other
manufacturers) have plastic tanks as stock OEM equipment.
Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA -
http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles
'99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA)
'01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads
'97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt
'79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned
hid (was [dsn_klr650] heated clothing)
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:41 pm
by E.L. Green
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Matt Knowles wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:53 PM, E.L. Green wrote:
>
> > It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your on-road
> > motorcycle
>
> You better inform Triumph of that. They (and several other
> manufacturers) have plastic tanks as stock OEM equipment.
You best check that out, eh? Could it be that the gas tank is part of
the emissions system and thus under emissions laws it's illegal to
change it for a non-certified aftermarket tank? Or could it be that
gas tanks must meet certain DOT safety standards for penetration
resistance, spill resistance, and so forth, and Triumph has gotten
their tank certified to those standards, but the aftermarket vendors
haven't? I'm sure that IMS Acerbis etc. post those "for offroad use
only" disclaimers on their websites for fun, rather than because it's
illegal to use their tanks on the highway. They do it because they
want to drive potential customers away, not because it's illegal to
use their tanks on the highway. Yeah, that's it! They hate making
money! Uh, yeah right...
Needless to say, I'm *not* getting rid of my IMS tank, regardless of
what the law says. Not DOT certified? Not EPA certified? Whatever.
_E
digest number 7654
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:08 pm
by Devon Jarvis
I feel your pain.
Running the motor for a few minutes won't really empty the bowl.
Easiest thing to do, is top up the tank and treat it with Stabil. Then,
put a basin under the bowl drain hose, open the drain, and allow the
bowl to drain out completely. A surprising amount of fuel might come
out since it will also drain the fuel line.
Devon
On Oct 11, 2006, at 9:46 AM,
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> i fractured my right leg in 3 places last night riding my
> recumbent bicycle. going to see a specialist this morning.
>
> tom
> sw pennsylvania
>
Brooklyn
'78 SR500
'01 KL250 Super Sherpa
hid (was [dsn_klr650] heated clothing)
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:35 am
by Me
Just an FYI: My stock tank on my Jeep Wrangler is plastic
(they have been for a few years at least). So I would
assume plastic is an ok material to have on a vehicle for a
gas tank
--- "E.L. Green" wrote:
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Matt Knowles
> wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 2006, at 2:53 PM, E.L. Green wrote:
> >
> > > It is also illegal to have a plastic gas tank on your
> on-road
> > > motorcycle
> >
> > You better inform Triumph of that. They (and several
> other
> > manufacturers) have plastic tanks as stock OEM
> equipment.
>
> You best check that out, eh? Could it be that the gas
> tank is part of
> the emissions system and thus under emissions laws it's
> illegal to
> change it for a non-certified aftermarket tank? Or could
> it be that
> gas tanks must meet certain DOT safety standards for
> penetration
> resistance, spill resistance, and so forth, and Triumph
> has gotten
> their tank certified to those standards, but the
> aftermarket vendors
> haven't? I'm sure that IMS Acerbis etc. post those "for
> offroad use
> only" disclaimers on their websites for fun, rather than
> because it's
> illegal to use their tanks on the highway. They do it
> because they
> want to drive potential customers away, not because it's
> illegal to
> use their tanks on the highway. Yeah, that's it! They
> hate making
> money! Uh, yeah right...
>
> Needless to say, I'm *not* getting rid of my IMS tank,
> regardless of
> what the law says. Not DOT certified? Not EPA certified?
> Whatever.
>
> _E
>
>
>
>
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