2nd try... how does a 160lb weakling pick a klr up off it's side?

[teamster1997]

To the good folks on the forum, I think this subject is getting a little out of hand. It is very obvious that there is going to be the louder is better on the highway crowd and there is going to be quieter is better crowd. I don't think anyone is going to change there views on this subject no matter what the other party says. Just my opinion but, do you good folks think it might be a good time to drop this subject before it really gets ugly. Just my 2 cents, Tim......

[BJ]

Hummm, Ive been a member of this group for 6 months or so, and this is the first time ive felt the need to reply. Load pipes do save lives, but at what cost. Lets take a close look. Yes, If a driver isnt looking, and he hears you before you pass, that is good. But If your doing 60, your pipes would have to be over 90 dbs, which is very loud, considering an electronic siren off a fire truck or ambulance is only 120 dbs. And at 70 mph, a siren cannot be heard until the truck has almost passed the passenger vehicle, and with sound proofing on vehicles, it is getting harder for drivers the hear emergency vehicles, much less us. So, that means we must be talking about making enough noise to be heard on a city street, and with that in mind, we must also not be so loud as to disturb the locals. Therefore, and 25-45 mph, and aftermarket vance and hines, or bub pipes with baffels will do, since they are 30-50 dbs. Also, if you are that concerned with safty, and not just trying to look bad, modulating headlights and driving lights are good safety features to have as well. I use a combination of all 3 on my bikes. Now, I have had pipes save my life on an occasion or two, I have also had them scare some old foggies and amost cause a wreck. Ok, before some of ya start bashing me, here is a little background. I have responded to well over 150 motorcycle vs car accidents, and I always hear, "i didn see him, or hear him" I also have been riding 17 years, have over 1 million road miles, and have ridin and owned over 30 differents bikes in that time, from crotch rockets, goldwings, harleys and standards, so I do have a little experiance here. Thanks for reading my rant and letting me get it off my chest, be safe and keep the rubber side down. BJ

[steve@hogtown.net]

Hello there, Wish I had something less embarassing to post for my first time but c'est la vie... My brand new KLR is lying on it's left side on my lawn (it fell over while I was trying to back it up to a level spot to park it... I don't think there's any damage other than a slightly bent clutch lever). I've been trying to pick it up from the left with my left hand on the left handlebar and my right on the rack... I cannot budge it. I'm hoping to right the beast before my brother comes over on his bike for a ride Sunday morning. Is there a trick to picking it up? I know kids smaller than me actually ride these things on trails, they must be able to I'd think... any suggestions from you experienced KLR'ers other than a Gold's Gym membership would be appreciated. Thanks! Steve