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help....lurching...it's back

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:09 pm
by Chris Jennings
Ok rode today and the lurching came back. Seems to do it from 4500 RPM in all gears. Rode HARD this past weekend and had no problems at all. Started today after ambient temps got up around 80. It was cooler than that all weekend and it was warm when it started doing it last week. Engine temp seems to stay around the middle of the gauge. I'm at a loss. Please HELP.... Here is a recap of the original problem 93 KLR with 45,000 miles
> > Riding down the highway it develops a lurching feeling. It's not a > consistant feelng but sporadic. When it does it it does it all teh time but > it's not rythmic. Does that make any sense? It seems to be temperature > related, I think. When the temp gauge gets a little over halfway it will do > it over 4000 RPM or so. If I stop for just a little while and ride again it > does not do it for a while but will start doing it again in about 10 > minutes. Does not seem to do it on side streets at low speed, but I did not > test that very thouroughly. RPM stays steady when it does it and teh engine > does not rev. > > Some things that have recently changed. > > Chain and sprockets only have about 700 miles on them. chain is at the > proper tension and has been confirmed by two other KLR riders. I did put a > 14 tooth on and left the rear the stock size. Chain was lubed today. > > T-mod.I did this last night. I unhooked the hose connecting to the carb > and it still did it eventually. > > L-mod in airbox. It's been a few weeks about 700 miles ago > > 1 turn out on the pilot screw. It's been a few weeks about 700 miles ago > > New Cheng Shen tires. I checked the pressure in the rear and it read 45 > but this was after about 45 minutes on the highway so the tire was hot. I > checked it a couple of days ago and it was 35. > > Changed the oil last night and the level looks good through the site > glass. 2.2 liters I did not change the filter > > Magnetic drain plug. > > I opened the gas cap and it still did it. I had a torn diaphragm when I > got the bike and this does not feel the same. I am still going to check that > though as it's not very hard. > Coolant is only about 6 months old and the color is still OK with it > resting between full and low as the bike sits on the side stand immediatly > after getting off. > > I did about 600 miles this weekend 500 of that being hwy miles and did > not have any problems. With the 14 though I was running 5500-6000 most of > the way. > > Any ideas? >
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help....lurching...it's back

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:43 pm
by klr6501995
Now that really sound like petcock pulsing or cap vent. petcock pulsing I think would be from a bad petcock hose to carb/head boot or not-so good petcock vac diaghram. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Jennings" wrote:
> > Ok rode today and the lurching came back. Seems to do it from 4500
RPM in
> all gears. > > Rode HARD this past weekend and had no problems at all. Started
today after
> ambient temps got up around 80. It was cooler than that all weekend
and it
> was warm when it started doing it last week. Engine temp seems to
stay
> around the middle of the gauge. > > I'm at a loss. Please HELP.... > > Here is a recap of the original problem > > 93 KLR with 45,000 miles > > > > Riding down the highway it develops a lurching feeling. It's not
a
> > consistant feelng but sporadic. When it does it it does it all
teh time but
> > it's not rythmic. Does that make any sense? It seems to be
temperature
> > related, I think. When the temp gauge gets a little over halfway
it will do
> > it over 4000 RPM or so. If I stop for just a little while and
ride again it
> > does not do it for a while but will start doing it again in about
10
> > minutes. Does not seem to do it on side streets at low speed, but
I did not
> > test that very thouroughly. RPM stays steady when it does it and
teh engine
> > does not rev. > > > > Some things that have recently changed. > > > > Chain and sprockets only have about 700 miles on them. chain is
at the
> > proper tension and has been confirmed by two other KLR riders. I
did put a
> > 14 tooth on and left the rear the stock size. Chain was lubed
today.
> > > > T-mod.I did this last night. I unhooked the hose connecting to
the carb
> > and it still did it eventually. > > > > L-mod in airbox. It's been a few weeks about 700 miles ago > > > > 1 turn out on the pilot screw. It's been a few weeks about 700
miles ago
> > > > New Cheng Shen tires. I checked the pressure in the rear and it
read 45
> > but this was after about 45 minutes on the highway so the tire
was hot. I
> > checked it a couple of days ago and it was 35. > > > > Changed the oil last night and the level looks good through the
site
> > glass. 2.2 liters I did not change the filter > > > > Magnetic drain plug. > > > > I opened the gas cap and it still did it. I had a torn diaphragm
when I
> > got the bike and this does not feel the same. I am still going to
check that
> > though as it's not very hard. > > Coolant is only about 6 months old and the color is still OK
with it
> > resting between full and low as the bike sits on the side stand
immediatly
> > after getting off. > > > > I did about 600 miles this weekend 500 of that being hwy miles
and did
> > not have any problems. With the 14 though I was running 5500-6000
most of
> > the way. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

help....lurching...it's back

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:45 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> Ok rode today and the lurching came back. Seems to do it from 4500 RPM in > all gears. > > Rode HARD this past weekend and had no problems at all. Started today after > ambient temps got up around 80. It was cooler than that all weekend and it > was warm when it started doing it last week. Engine temp seems to stay > around the middle of the gauge. > > I'm at a loss. Please HELP.... >
Some people believe problems like yours occur because the gas line between the petcock and carb gets too hot. I've seen a klr with insulation rapped around that line. I've also heard that some in-line gas filters can cause lurching. Are you running with one of these ? Could it be improper vacuum in the petcock ? You could defeat the vacuum feature in the petcock by taking out the spring and other stuff and installing a solid gasket. You could make one out of just about any plastic. We fashioned one out of a tab on a key ring. Good luck, Bogdan

help....lurching...it's back

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:52 pm
by Bogdan Swider
On 3/6/06 3:09 PM, "Chris Jennings" wrote:
> Ok rode today and the lurching came back. Seems to do it from 4500 RPM in > all gears. >
Me again. Before I'd do anything else I'd conduct two simple tests. Put a spare key in the gas cap. When the lurching starts open the cap to see if that helps. Also, when it's lurching engage your choke and see if that does anything. Again good luck, Bogdan

help....lurching...it's back

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:05 pm
by Chris Jennings
No filter. I opened the gas cap and it did nothing to help it. Have not tried the choke thing yet. The last time I had the tank off I did disconnected it from the top of the carb instead of the top of the petcock wonder if I did anything that may have moved the fuel line closer to a heat source? I'll look at that closer and check out the petcock as well.
On 3/6/06, Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > > On 3/6/06 3:09 PM, "Chris Jennings" wrote: > > > Ok rode today and the lurching came back. Seems to do it from 4500 RPM > in > > all gears. > > > Me again. Before I'd do anything else I'd conduct two simple tests. Put a > spare key in the gas cap. When the lurching starts open the cap to see if > that helps. Also, when it's lurching engage your choke and see if that > does > anything. > > Again good luck, Bogdan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

rally d/s handguards

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:47 pm
by robert_striemer
Anyone have experience with the Acerbis Rally D/S handguards with integrated turn signals? Sold by Dual Star. How good are the turn signals? Visibility? Wiring etc.? Thanks, Rob