Sorry I posted incorrectly. I sent my reply directly to him & not
the group. I will try to recreate.
Yes you are correct you, Eldon, Mike, your wife, and your secy are
complete a-holes. Hey chief let me ask you these questions: How many
Pitt Bull's did you have on the force? Would you let your babies
alone w/ them? How many trips to the old folks home do you make w/
them? Do you have to muzzle them at the vet? Do you think they are
great w/ kids? Does your dog also competition shoot? You are in left
field and in serious need of a reality check! Your occupation has
nothing to do w/ dog behavior. I have a German Shepard that is gaurd
2 certified w/ my training alone. He has his own yard and a cement
kennel. I would never let him alone w/ anyone. He is perfectly
mannered, but a one owner dog. Pitt Bulls are bred to fight, not to
be loving house pets you fucking dumbass. PS if I am in your area I
will be sure to bring Elvis.
Have a Nice Day,
thad
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Seifert"
wrote:
> Gee, that makes me, Elden Carl, Mike Cowlishaw, my wife, my
secretary and
> my secretary's husband a bunch of a-holes, huh?
>
> Let's see, a retired fire chief, two competition shooters, both
nationally
> ranked, a San Diego County Code enforcement officer, my lovely
secretary
> who qualifies every six mo's with the SD Sheriff's Office for her
CCW and a
> Sergeant with the San Diego County Sheriff's Office. I guess
we're a bunch
> of a-holes. Do me a big favor and stay away from Julian or San
Diego
> County. Hey, maybe you can go out on a date with Hillary!!
>
> And don't forget, my two Dalmatians are much more prone to bite
than Pit
> Bulls.....just ask your local veterinarian.
>
> I am a firm believer in gun control....make sure you center ring
what
> you're shooting at. Not like the LA County Sheriff's Office.
>
> Harry Seifert
> bseifert71@m...
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: don cain
> > To: Stuart Mumford
> > Cc: jay carlson ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 5/12/2005 2:11:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] RE: Re: Re: NKLR Denver Seizing and
Killing
> your Pit Bulls
> >
> > Hmmm,
> > Replace 'pit bull' with 'gun.' and you have the same argument for
> > getting rid of all guns also....
> >
> > However, your argument is borderline retarded.
> > If there were no GUNS, no one would be attacked and maimed by
these
> > WORTHLESS ITEMS.
> > Just because one person is a good GUN owner doesn't excuse the
majority of
> > GUN owners, who are for the most part, a-holes.
> > Around here, it's pretty much guaranteed that if on one end of a
BARREL
> is a
> > SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIAL, on the other is eaither a gang banger, a
meth
> > dealer, or a white
> > supremacist. They are the GUN of choice for the armpit of
society.
> >
> > Sure go ahead and blame an animal for the short comings of an
owner.
> >
> > -don
> >
> > On 5/12/05, Stuart Mumford wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > My point is that you are willing to dictate laws for the
rest of us
> > > because of your beliefs.
> > >
> > > Society is defined by people accepting the rule of law. Laws
are
> created adn
> > > enforced by men, and in the USA, as a democracy, the public
gets to
> > > determine which laws to enact and enforce.
> > >
> > > If it was a dictatorship, one individual could do that.
> > > As a democracy, each citizen has a civic duty to make his
opinion known.
> > > I made my opinion known, didn't dictate a doggone thing.
> > >
> > > >But back to business. Let's consider two scenarios:
> > >
> > > >Denver: An unsupervised child wanders near a chained pit bull
in the
> > > neighborhood and is tragically maimed.
> > > >Result: All pit bulls must be rounded up and put down.
> > > >Newspaper headline: Vicious dog maims child
> > > >What the headline should have been: Parental negligence
causes child
> > > maiming
> > >
> > > Agreed, with a sub headline, "Another Pit Bull dog attack
maims another
> > > victim: Will the violence ever end?"
> > >
> > > >Rural USA: A cougar wanders into a rural community and kills
a child. I
> > > debate whether to shoot it because of state and
> > > >federal laws.
> > >
> > > There should be no debate there, this is a ludicrous argument.
> > >
> > > >Result1: I shoot the cat to prevent the possibility that it
might hurt
> > > another child, and get to (for sure) spend $10k to
> > > >defend myself in court and (probably) do time in the slam.
> > >
> > > "Your honor, Mr. Carlson saved a child form a wild animal, we
should
> > > imprison him!"
> > >
> > > Pure BS
> > >
> > > >Result2: I don't shoot the cat and it kills my neighbor's
child. I get
> to
> > > explain to him why I didn't kill the cat when I
> > > >had the chance.
> > > >Result1 headline: Man convicted of violating wildlife
protection act.
> > >
> > > You seem awful concerned with headlines. WHat does that have
to do with
> > > anything? Th emedia is a business, adn "If it bleeds, it
leads".
> Headlines
> > > are sensationalism and marketing thinly veiled in the guise of
> "Journalism",
> > > for the most part.
> > >
> > > >So tell me, Mr. All Knowing and Policy Making Pulpit of
Knowledge,
> where is
> > > the consistency in these two scenarios?
> > >
> > > You're obsessed with headlines and can't make a rational
argument?
> > >
> > > However, thanks for the title.
> > >
> > > >Don't like scenarios? Aggravated assault in 13 Denver
neighborhoods
> was up
> > > 10%+ in 2003 (Google is your friend). Sex assault >was up 10%+
in 8
> > > neighborhoods. Homicide up 50%+ in 9 neighborhoods (remember
we can't
> blame
> > > the guns, that's been
> > > >established). And these meatheads feel like rounding up pit
bulls is a
> good
> > > use of resources.
> > >
> > > No one ever said the Denver government was prescient or
sensible.
> > >
> > > >And you say I've made a stupid argument? Ok, let's close with
a
> discussion
> > > of pit bulls. I got a buddy who's had pit bulls
> > > >for as long as I've know him (20+ years). They've all been
shop dogs
> at his
> > > bike shop. Plenty of foot traffic, zero
> > > >injuries. The biggest danger is getting licked to death. So
the
> statement
> > > that;
> > >
> > > >Pit bulls were specifically bred to be vicious, aggressive
fighting
> dogs.
> > > >There is no place for them in today's society, they sould all
be
> killed and
> > > >made into catfood.
> > >
> > > >is false, ignorant, and stupid all rolled into one
(congratulations).
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > However, your argument is borderline retarded.
> > > If there were no Pit Bulls, no one would be attacked and
maimed by these
> > > vicious brutes.
> > > Just because one person is a good dog owner doesn't excuse the
majority
> of
> > > Pit Bull owners, who are for the most part, a-holes.
> > > Around here, it's pretty much guaranteed that if on one end of
a leash
> is a
> > > Pit, on the other is eaither a gang banger, a meth dealer, or
a white
> > > supremacist. They are the dog of choice for the armpit of
society.
> > >
> > > >On the other hand, cat hairballs in the street are
disgusting. There
> is no
> > > place for cats in today's society, they should
> > > >all be killed and made into, errr, catfood. My dog loves
catfood.
> > >
> > > Your dog is as smart as his owner.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > CA Stu
> > >
> > > PS My dog was a Red Doberman, and like you, I got him form a
shelter,
> and
> > > like yours, his previous owners had abused him. Also, he
survived Canine
> > > Distemper, I slept with him on my lap for at least one night.
Now I'm
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --My greatest fear in life is not death, but waking up one
morning
-d