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Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:19 am**

Below is what they send you if you work in a school in Colorado. Bogdan The past few years we had a moose sighting and a bear cub sighting along Monument Creek Trail adjacent the college. They have both moved on. However, the college has a new addition. A mountain lion has been sighted this morning around 8 a.m. on the Monument Creek Trail between the Uintah bridge and the Mesa bridge. The mountain lion is approximately 2 1/2 feet tall and approximately 70 to 100 pounds. If you observe the mountain lion contact Security immediately so in turn we can contact the Department of Wildlife. Whatever you do, please do not approach the lion. Ron Smith Chief of Security

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:07 pm**

OK, can you imagine?? "Here kitty kitty kitty...." I for one would not have to be told to not approach any wild animal... But I guess it's a sign of the times.. Ron in MN

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote: > Below is what they send you if you work in a school in Colorado. > > Bogdan > > The past few years we had a moose sighting and a bear cub sighting along > Monument Creek Trail adjacent the college. They have both moved on. > > However, the college has a new addition. A mountain lion has been sighted > this morning around 8 a.m. on the Monument Creek Trail between the Uintah > bridge and the Mesa bridge. The mountain lion is approximately 2 1/2 feet > tall and approximately 70 to 100 pounds. > > If you observe the mountain lion contact Security immediately so in turn > we can contact the Department of Wildlife. Whatever you do, please do not > approach the lion. > > Ron Smith > Chief of Security

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:28 pm**

Alas, sometimes they approach you. Like the time that simply by waking up, I effectively cornered the two big-ass raccoons that had crept into my studio apartment through an open window. It was their growling that woke me up, as they warned my cat not to defend his food bowl. And suddenly, I'm between them and their only exit. Not that they cared much. Even after scooting my naked self to the other side of the room and clapping my hands, making loud noises, etc., they just glared at me, took a few more bites for the road, then casually sauntered back out. Oh, did I mention I live right in the middle of San Francisco? On the third floor? Yep. Urban raccoons don't no guff from no one. BE A9, SF --- Ron Crandell wrote:

> > > OK, can you imagine?? "Here kitty kitty kitty...." I for one would > not have to be told to not approach any wild animal... But I guess > it's a sign of the times.. > > Ron in MN

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Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:42 pm**

On Apr 7, 2005 12:07 PM, Ron Crandell wrote:

> OK, can you imagine?? "Here kitty kitty kitty...." I for one would > not have to be told to not approach any wild animal... But I guess > it's a sign of the times..

There was a local TV news broadcast last year that reported on the record number of bear incursions into campgrounds in Yosemite. The reason? The reporter played a home video of some moron who smeared peanut butter on his 4 year old's face and had a black bear cub lick it off while he was videoing the whole thing. There are entirely too many urban idiots who think its neat to feed the bears and take pictures. Of course, these same idiots scream bloody murder when rangers have to kill the bears that have lost all fear of humans and become aggressive towards us. Makes my blood boil... -- Blake Sobiloff San Mateo, CA (USA)

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:37 pm**

I knew a guy who was taking the trash out early one dark winter morning in quite residential neighbor, barely awake, when suddenly fhe felt fangs in his ankle and a big ruckus down there. Racoon! He screamed at the top of his lungs but couldnt get it to let go. Finally he kicked it free, just as a neighbor, some type of law officer, arrived with his .357. Boom, Boom, dead racoon--sorry to say. Rabies. Anyway, it just goes to show you never know whats in store when you get out bed in the morning. ------------------------------------------

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Emmack wrote: > Alas, sometimes they approach you. Like the time that simply by waking > up, I effectively cornered the two big-ass raccoons that had crept into > my studio apartment through an open window. It was their growling that > woke me up, as they warned my cat not to defend his food bowl. And > suddenly, I'm between them and their only exit. > > Not that they cared much. Even after scooting my naked self to the > other side of the room and clapping my hands, making loud noises, etc., > they just glared at me, took a few more bites for the road, then > casually sauntered back out. > > Oh, did I mention I live right in the middle of San Francisco? On the > third floor? Yep. Urban raccoons don't no guff from no one. > > BE > A9, SF > >

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:13 pm**

Right, you can blame Disney for the personification of wild critters, can you say Lion King or Bambi and the list goes on and on. The Park Service is always warning people not to feed the deer, "oh look at the cute deer here's a cracker", then when they are out of food the buck rears up and pokes a hole in their chest with his antlers. As for mountain lions I would bet the first instant you realize you are in the company of one will be just before or more likely, after he has knocked you to the ground and punctured your circulatory system. The populations of mountain lions is growing rapidly here in CA and they are now protected so no hunting. It seems now hikers have dropped a rung in the food chain and joined the surfers. Let the X-games begin. --Jim A-15

> OK, can you imagine?? "Here kitty kitty kitty...." I for one would > not have to be told to not approach any wild animal... But I guess > it's a sign of the times.. > > Ron in MN

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:57 pm**

The

> populations of mountain lions is growing rapidly here in CA and

they

> are now protected so no hunting. It seems now hikers have dropped

a

> rung in the food chain and joined the surfers. Let the X-games

begin.

> --Jim > A-15 > >

I have watched the population of cats grow significantly in the 25 years I have hunted the same area in my state. Most of this increase is due to the ignorant tree huggers from the "liberal basition west side" of our state-- ie: the banning of hunting mountain lions with dogs. After a few years of losing more than a reasonable amount of calves, sheep and nice horse and many threats to the kids when they get off the school buses, we all adopted the 3-S policy if we see a cat when we are hunting. We shoot em, shovel em and shut up! Since then, the balance of "things' has been getting back to normal. There have been times when we wanted to trap a few and turn me loose in suburbia so the naive get the message! They change their minds quick when Fido or worse gets threatened. We have a nice cat rug on our den floor. My wife shot is on a hunting trip. It's a legal one of course! JR

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:58 pm**

On Apr 7, 2005 3:13 PM, Jim wrote:

> The > populations of mountain lions is growing rapidly here in CA and they > are now protected so no hunting. It seems now hikers have dropped a > rung in the food chain and joined the surfers. Let the X-games begin.

Heck, there are over 120 depredation permits issued every year for mountain lions and the population is still booming. Better carry one of these http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293531&item=864419&sw_activeTab=1> where you can--especially good in Alaska.

-- Blake Sobiloff San Mateo, CA (USA)

Posted: **Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:10 pm**

Yep humans and critters usually don't mix well. There has been a few attacks by mountain lions in Big Bend National Park. The last one I heard of was pretty close (like a mile) to the Chisos Basin a big gathering center for humans. They advise you not to hike alone out there because of this. They say the only time you will see one is when he is on the back of your neck. But as urban sprawl happens we move into the places the animals have had as homes forever. My wife was coming into the house one night and looked down and there was a skunk at her feet looking up as if to say "Don't mess with me." Luckily she didn't get sprayed or bit as I have heard skunks naturally carry rabies. The only time I have ever seen a bobcat was not 12 miles from downtown Dallas. Riding my dirtbike in a swampy area along our crummy river called the Trinity where few humans go. I was amazed as he was well into town. I think in the future more and more areas will be fenced off just for exotic animals as most of them are in trouble because wild animals and humans don't really mix too well. Criswell

On Thursday, April 7, 2005, at 03:13 PM, Jim wrote: > > > Right, you can blame Disney for the personification of wild critters, > can you say Lion King or Bambi and the list goes on and on. The Park > Service is always warning people not to feed the deer, "oh look at the > cute deer here's a cracker", then when they are out of food the buck > rears up and pokes a hole in their chest with his antlers. As for > mountain lions I would bet the first instant you realize you are in > the company of one will be just before or more likely, after he has > knocked you to the ground and punctured your circulatory system. The > populations of mountain lions is growing rapidly here in CA and they > are now protected so no hunting. It seems now hikers have dropped a > rung in the food chain and joined the surfers. Let the X-games begin. > --Jim > A-15 > >> OK, can you imagine?? "Here kitty kitty kitty...." I for one would >> not have to be told to not approach any wild animal... But I guess >> it's a sign of the times.. >> >> Ron in MN > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Posted: **Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:11 am**

Thats exactly the philosophy that wiped cougars out of the Eastern U.S. We need fewer humans, not fewer cougars imo. Pretty soon the whole earth will be covered with human beings and their little screaming brats, to the density of Manhattan. Just my 2 cents ------------------------------------ --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "John Radebaugh" wrote:

> > I have watched the population of cats grow significantly in the 25 > years I have hunted the same area in my state. Most of this

increase

> is due to the ignorant tree huggers from the "liberal basition

west

> side" of our state-- ie: the banning of hunting mountain lions

with

> dogs. After a few years of losing more than a reasonable amount of > calves, sheep and nice horse and many threats to the kids when

they

> get off the school buses, we all adopted the 3-S policy if we see

a

> cat when we are hunting. We shoot em, shovel em and shut up! > Since then, the balance of "things' has been getting back to

normal.

> There have been times when we wanted to trap a few and turn me

loose

> in suburbia so the naive get the message! They change their minds > quick when Fido or worse gets threatened. > We have a nice cat rug on our den floor. My wife shot is on a > hunting trip. It's a legal one of course! > JR

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