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				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:26 pm
				by kelpo2001
				Has anyone tried the Bridgestone Trailmaster 18 rear tire?
 There has been lots of tire talk, but I can't recall any mention of 
 this tire. I tried to get a TK80, but for some reason it was not 
 available from my local supplier in northern Ontario. The 
 Trailmaster 18 was available and the tread design looked about right 
 so I ordered one. After reading about all the troubles others have 
 had installing tires I approached the task prepared for a tough 
 time. As it turned out the original Dunlop tire bead broke with one 
 stomp of my boot and the Trailmaster tire spooned on real easy using 
 the only two tire irons I have. Even though I lubed the last third 
 with WD40 I'm sure it would have gone on without any lube. The beads 
 seated before I got 30 psi into the new HD tube.
 Seems like an easy tire to install, but I am wondering how it 
 performs on the gravel roads I often drive on. The tread is more 
 agressive than the OEM tire. I won't get a chance to try it until 
 about April 15 when enough ice has melted off the roads. Its that 
 magical time of year when I can finally drive my bike and still be 
 able to drive the Skidoo... at least on the lake ice.
 Picture of this tire at  
 http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kelpo2001/detail?.dir=b305&.dnm=263f.j
 pg>
 I'll post a report on my impressions of this tire after I've had a 
 chance to ride it a bit.
 
 Richard Korpela
 A15
 Chapleau, ON
			 
			
					
				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:00 am
				by Bob Palin
				"Even though I lubed the last third with WD40"
 
 That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will remain slippery much longer
 than soap and water or the real rubber lube leading to a greater possibility
 of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the valve.
 
 Bob Palin
 
			 
			
					
				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:21 am
				by kelpo2001
				Sorry...the tire is a "Trailwing" not Trailmaster. Don't know why I 
 made that mistake.
 Richard
 
 
 --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kelpo2001"  wrote:
 > 
 > Has anyone tried the Bridgestone Trailmaster 18 rear tire?
 > There has been lots of tire talk, but I can't recall any mention 
 of 
 > this tire. I tried to get a TK80, but for some reason it was not 
 > available from my local supplier in northern Ontario. The 
 > Trailmaster 18 was available and the tread design looked about 
 right 
 > so I ordered one. After reading about all the troubles others have 
 > had installing tires I approached the task prepared for a tough 
 > time. As it turned out the original Dunlop tire bead broke with 
 one 
 > stomp of my boot and the Trailmaster tire spooned on real easy 
 using 
 > the only two tire irons I have. Even though I lubed the last third 
 > with WD40 I'm sure it would have gone on without any lube. The 
 beads 
 > seated before I got 30 psi into the new HD tube.
 > Seems like an easy tire to install, but I am wondering how it 
 > performs on the gravel roads I often drive on. The tread is more 
 > agressive than the OEM tire. I won't get a chance to try it until 
 > about April 15 when enough ice has melted off the roads. Its that 
 > magical time of year when I can finally drive my bike and still be 
 > able to drive the Skidoo... at least on the lake ice.
 > Picture of this tire at  
 > 
 http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kelpo2001/detail?.dir=b305&.dnm=263f.j
 > pg>
 > I'll post a report on my impressions of this tire after I've had a 
 > chance to ride it a bit.
 > 
 > Richard Korpela
 > A15
 > Chapleau, ON 
 
			 
			
					
				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:28 am
				by Bogdan Swider
				> 
 > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will remain slippery much longer
 > than soap and water or the real rubber lube leading to a greater possibility
 > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the valve.
 
  
I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a lube. No problems at all.
 Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - use it routinely. FWIW I
 now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon which should be a lifetime
 supply.
 
 Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama sutra lotion.
 
			 
			
					
				oil filter inspections
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:24 am
				by tselacanth
				Additional info.:
 
 To see if the filter media is completely bonded/sealed to the end cap 
 you need good eyes up close (mine aren't so great) and/or a 
 magnifier. I also used a mini-maglite on the outside to inspect the 
 bond/seal, and in a darkened room, shined the m-m inside the filter 
 (using spot beam) and viewed the filter media to end cap bond/seal 
 from the ouside; unbonded areas show up as a light leak, and might 
 even be more visible with one of the m-m colored lens filters (need 
 to find them). There are several oil filter inspection web sites on 
 the internet but I haven't seen any that discuss filter media to end 
 cap bond/seal quality/integrity. I only stumbled on this subject 
 after I measured and closely inspected the filter reported on in my 
 first oil filter post. It seems that manufacturing an oil filter 
 cartridge with the proper amount and uniformity of end sealant, and a 
 satisfactory bond/seal to the filter media may not be such an easy or 
 repeatable thing.
 
 Jim   A17
 
 
 
 --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "tselacanth"  
 wrote:
 
 > 
 > Oil Filter Inspections
 > 
 > In message 131884, I noted a defective Kawasaki oil filter (P/N 
  
16099-
 
 > 004, Made in Japan) I have. This filter had unbonded/unsealed areas 
 > at each end of the filter between the ends of the filter media 
 > element and the metal end caps. These areas would likely allow oil 
  
to 
 
 > bypass the filter media.
 > 
 > I have since purchased and inspected a Wix 24951 and a Fram CH6070. 
 > These two filters are made in Korea, appear to be very similar, 
  
have 
 
 > similar markings, and are possibly from the same source.
 > 
 > The Wix filter visually appears to have a complete bond/seal 
  
between 
 
 > the ends of the filter media element and the metal end caps; the 
 > adhesive/sealant extends just inside the center tube on both ends.
 > 
 > On the Fram filter, one end appears to have 1 pleat root bond/seal 
 > defect. The other end appears to have 5 pleat root bond/seal 
  
defects 
 
 > of varying sizes; the center tube bond is incomplete on each end. 
 > This filter would likely allow oil to bypass the filter media.
 > 
 > FWIW
 > 
 > Jim   A17 
 
			 
			
					
				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:52 am
				by W.V. Doran
				I started using WD40 on the trail for tire work
 because it's easy to pack, sprays on and will fix
 almost anything. It's the only thing I use for
 mounting tires on the road or at home.
 I tried "real" tire lube and it glued the tire to the
 rim...good for some people I'm sure, but breaking the
 bead out on the road or trail is difficult enough. 
 WVDoran...thinking about using WD40 on my bum knee.  
 --- Bogdan Swider  wrote:
 
 > 
 > 
 > > 
 > > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will
 > remain slippery much longer
 > > than soap and water or the real rubber lube
 > leading to a greater possibility
 > > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the
 > valve.
 > 
 > I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a lube.
 > No problems at all.
 > Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - use
 > it routinely. FWIW I
 > now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon which
 > should be a lifetime
 > supply.
 > 
 > Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama sutra
 > lotion.
  
 
  
WVDoran 
 Scottsdale, AZ
 
 
 		
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				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:08 am
				by Joseph Jones
				I don't expect many people to belive this,,,,but I have used wd40 on 
 my knees and IT WORKS some. Maybe it is one of those mental things 
 but it does work, and at times I will try almost anything short of 
 the .45 auto.
 
 
 
 --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "W.V. Doran"  wrote:
 > I started using WD40 on the trail for tire work
 > because it's easy to pack, sprays on and will fix
 > almost anything. It's the only thing I use for
 > mounting tires on the road or at home.
 > I tried "real" tire lube and it glued the tire to the
 > rim...good for some people I'm sure, but breaking the
 > bead out on the road or trail is difficult enough. 
 > WVDoran...thinking about using WD40 on my bum knee.  
 > --- Bogdan Swider  wrote:
 > > 
 > > 
 > > > 
 > > > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will
 > > remain slippery much longer
 > > > than soap and water or the real rubber lube
 > > leading to a greater possibility
 > > > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching the
 > > valve.
 > > 
 > > I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a lube.
 > > No problems at all.
 > > Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves - use
 > > it routinely. FWIW I
 > > now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon which
 > > should be a lifetime
 > > supply.
 > > 
 > > Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama sutra
 > > lotion.
 >  
 > 
 > WVDoran 
 > Scottsdale, AZ
 > 
 > 
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				trail master 18 tire
				Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:28 am
				by W.V. Doran
				I understand...I have s*%# for knees and anything that
 helps, mental or whatever is worth trying. 
 I wonder... 
 Would it be better to use PJ1 Blue, ChainWax or WD40?
 --- Joseph Jones  wrote:
 
 > 
 > 
 > I don't expect many people to belive this,,,,but I
 > have used wd40 on 
 > my knees and IT WORKS some. Maybe it is one of those
 > mental things 
 > but it does work, and at times I will try almost
 > anything short of 
 > the .45 auto.
 > 
 > 
 > --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "W.V. Doran"
 >  wrote:
 > > I started using WD40 on the trail for tire work
 > > because it's easy to pack, sprays on and will fix
 > > almost anything. It's the only thing I use for
 > > mounting tires on the road or at home.
 > > I tried "real" tire lube and it glued the tire to
 > the
 > > rim...good for some people I'm sure, but breaking
 > the
 > > bead out on the road or trail is difficult enough.
 > 
 > > WVDoran...thinking about using WD40 on my bum
 > knee.  
 > > --- Bogdan Swider  wrote:
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > That's really not a good idea, the WD40 will
 > > > remain slippery much longer
 > > > > than soap and water or the real rubber lube
 > > > leading to a greater possibility
 > > > > of the tyre slipping on the rim and detaching
 > the
 > > > valve.
 > > > 
 > > > I mounted several tires using good ole WD as a
 > lube.
 > > > No problems at all.
 > > > Others like Professor Hyman - if memory serves -
 > use
 > > > it routinely. FWIW I
 > > > now use Napa brand tire lube. Bought a gallon
 > which
 > > > should be a lifetime
 > > > supply.
 > > > 
 > > > Bogdan, who doesn't recommend WD40 as a khama
 > sutra
 > > > lotion.
 > >  
 > > 
 > > WVDoran 
 > > Scottsdale, AZ
 > > 
 > > 
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