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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully
wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 11:06, denis@t... wrote:
> > The failure rate of condoms is VERY high. In some reports as high
as 31%.
> > Do you want to trust your life to a device that has this high of
a rate of
> > failure? If it was a tire you'd see people up in arms over these
types of
> > numbers. Maybe it's the fact that Planned Parenthood makesso much
money
> > off of these failures?
>
> Right, right, right, I forgot that PP makes a gajillion dollars with
> their condom conspiracy. I'm sure that all the poor, scared, or
poor and
> scared people who go to PP for help will be happy to know that the
tests
> PP gave them for free(!), as well as the free(!) doctors visit, is
> really actually making them fabulously rich.
>
> Now, I agree that condoms are not 100% effective, in fact, NOBODY
makes
> that claim. But flip it around, at its worst (31% being the number
> pushed by the Pro-lifers I believe), it's preventing 69% of
pregancies
> and preventing the spread of STDs. And too boot, most of the
failures
> can be directly attributed to human error. So it's not that condom
> technology is failing us, but that Americans are too stupid to use
them
> properly... And there are plenty of people (oh, like the POPE) who
want
> to keep it that way.
>
> > As for marriage, when look at most of the unwed mothers and the
familys
> > there creating, yes, marrage would have been a better choice for
them.
> > Look at the state of NM. Something like 70% of the births here
are to
> > unwed mothers. And we have some of the worst poverty in the
nation.
> > Throwing more money at the problem is not going to solve the
problem,
> > ljust like closing the borders is not going to make us safer. You
need to
> > fix the root issues.
>
> Wait a minute, so you mean if I get married, I'll no longer be poor,
> un{der}educated, unemployed, in poor health, with crippling debt and
> with little hope for my children or their future? Oh wait, I'll no
> longer be poor according to the government, because all the sudden I
> have two incomes, putting me just above the poverty line! Wow! How
> little did I know that marriage (or lack thereof) was the root of
our
> problems!
>
> And BTW, I'll tell the homeless family that lives in front of the
> J.Edgar Hoover FBI building that any day now things should really
turn
> around for them because they're married.
>
> Please don't confuse correlation with causation. Unwed mothers do
NOT
> cause poverty.
>
> --
> Z DC
> A5X
> A12X
"The only thing that breaks more often than a condom is a resolution
of abstinence" - source unknown but eloquent.
Ken