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--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mike Hilfiger" wrote: > what is a fire road? and what exactly is this automatic clutch thing?
That might be called a "county road" in some parts I suspose. Duden Maybe I dont have the concept of a fire road either.> A fire road???? Thats a (usually dirt) road in the forest or > wilderness made so fire trucks can get in to put out forest fires.
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "dooden" wrote: > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "kcuf_oohay_666" wrote: > > A fire road???? Thats a (usually dirt) road in the forest or > > wilderness made so fire trucks can get in to put out forest fires. > > > > That might be called a "county road" in some parts I suspose. > > Duden > > Maybe I dont have the concept of a fire road either.
Here in Northern California we have a defunct logging industry (but the roads remain) and lots of National Forest land where FS (forest service) roads go everywhere over the NF land. Additionally, we have "fire roads" which are roads cut by a Cat to enable fire equipment to reach remote areas. "Fire roads" will generally have water bars cut diagonally across them to lessen erosion. Logging roads are of generall two types - "skid roads" which are trails cut by small Cats (D2 or sim) and which are used to drag ("skid") logs usually downhill to a "deck" or landing where the logs are (were) loaded on a truck. From the landing to the main paved roads are larger graded dirt roads....usually called "Haul Roads". If there is active logging in the area it is dangerous indeed to ride a motorcycle rapidly down a haul road. Log trucks do not stop, and the drivers think it's great to smash vehicles that don't belong on the log roads into little bits of budweiser cans. I find the best riding for the KLR is consistently the FS roads, which are graded most of the time, and there are literally thousands of miles of them, plus they actually go somewhere.> fire roads are also called logging roads. for removing trees for > wood. the legal term for both fire and logging roads is "unimproved > road" or dirt road. >
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "kcuf_oohay_666" wrote: > fire roads are also called logging roads. for removing trees for > wood. the legal term for both fire and logging roads is "unimproved > road" or dirt road. > Here in Northern California we have a defunct logging industry (but the roads remain) and lots of National Forest land where FS (forest service) roads go everywhere over the NF land. Additionally, we have "fire roads" which are roads cut by a Cat to enable fire equipment to reach remote areas. "Fire roads" will generally have water bars cut diagonally across them to lessen erosion. Logging roads are of generall two types - "skid roads" which are trails cut by small Cats (D2 or sim) and which are used to drag ("skid") logs usually downhill to a "deck" or landing where the logs are (were) loaded on a truck. From the landing to the main paved roads are larger graded dirt roads....usually called "Haul Roads". If there is active logging in the area it is dangerous indeed to ride a motorcycle rapidly down a haul road. Log trucks do not stop, and the drivers think it's great to smash vehicles that don't belong on the log roads into little bits of budweiser cans. I find the best riding for the KLR is consistently the FS roads, which are graded most of the time, and there are literally thousands of miles of them, plus they actually go somewhere. Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com
some of> Perhaps we could have a Norcal trip where you could lead a ride on
for the> the better ones ? Sort of a ride for those of us that arent ready
No problem, I will lead a route that will be fun and actually go somewhere...like from Upper Lake to Stonyford, that's a good one. But I will not try to organize the ride, I've tried several times and no one can ever commit, just a lot of "well I wish I could go, but my wife says I have to mow the lawn and lube the Vegematic", so I will leave the organization up to someone else. Thanks.> technical stuff.
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "kcuf_oohay_666" wrote: > fire roads are also called logging roads. for removing trees for > wood. the legal term for both fire and logging roads is "unimproved > road" or dirt road. > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "dooden" wrote: > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "kcuf_oohay_666" wrote: > > > A fire road???? Thats a (usually dirt) road in the forest or > > > wilderness made so fire trucks can get in to put out forest > fires. > > > > > > > > That might be called a "county road" in some parts I suspose. > > > > Duden > > > > Maybe I dont have the concept of a fire road either.
(Copper Canyon)> Anyone going to the Horizons Unlimited bash in Creel, Mexico
so figure> on October 15-17? > > In real terms the time line referenced is for the weekend events - > additional riding in the canyon before the meeting is anticipated,
> October 13-17, n/i getting there and back. > > Anyway, info can be found via these links - > > > > > Mike Torst > Las Vegas > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]