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--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> You can ride all year? Jet stream anomaly or ? > > Curious; Canada is so beautiful, but so, ah, north. > > Mike Torst > Las Vegas >

Hi Mike. I should qualify the riding all year. It helps to be slightly stupid and being born in England ( which may be the same ). I'm in a small area influenced by the Pacific and most winter days are mild (45F) and rainy. Snow can be had by driving up the mountains and true winter starts just to the east and north. I thoroughly enjoy riding and cycling in the cold and tend to avoid both in the summer. I honestly don't know how you guys ride in the heat. I put central air in our house last year which would probably make you laugh. I've seen a lot of Canada and it is beautiful, but I still have yet to see a real American desert, some of those massive cactus, the Grand Canyon and some of the other things you have locally. And I'd probably live on the coast of Washington State (Whidbey Island or Port Townsend ) or cowboy country in Oregon if Canada invades and takes possession. Steve B.C.

In a message dated 2004-07-06 7:55:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, shersant2003@... writes:

> I've seen a lot of Canada and it is beautiful, but I still have yet > to see a real American desert, some of those massive cactus, the > Grand Canyon and some of the other things you have locally. > And I'd probably live on the coast of Washington State (Whidbey > Island or Port Townsend ) or cowboy country in Oregon if Canada > invades and takes possession. > Steve > B.C. >

There are wondrous expanses to be seen in our western deserts. The AMA has a great tour of the southwest's canyonlands. No matter how many times I've seen the Moniment Valley in John Ford movies I wasn't prepared for the impact of riding through it, under escort of a Navajo guide. By following the Great Basin along the western slope of the Rockies and you can follow the old outlaw trails once ridden by the likes Butch Casey. And for all I've seen, will nothing matches the canyonlands for shear grandeur, the Great Basin is pockmarked with these great places to explore the leavings of our western migration. The Black Rock Desert, the ancient Bristlecone Pines, the Ruby Mountains, the Forty Mile Desert, the High Rock Desert Canyon Emigrant Trail, the Great Basin NP, the Rockie Mountain Oyster Cookoff in Virginia City, the Burning Man out in the Black Rock, the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, the Snake River, Pyramid Lake ad its legendary Lahaton Cutthroat Trout, following the footsteps of Fremont's explorations, wild horses, red tail hawks, bald eagles, loons, pelicans, and Mono Lake to toss out a short list. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Oh, coastal weather. I am still in envy mode for your weather, but I do like the desert for 9 months out of the year here in the SW US for riding. I had planned on the Alaska trip, but I screwed up in April and put my ankle into the 'out of commission' zone. Do you hunt? Our states tag allowance for northern Nevada is complete and we did not get our requested permits. So now we are looking to Utah and Colorado. If you are adverse to hunting, please accept my apologies for this query. Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hersant [mailto:shersant2003@...] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:55 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Year Round Riding --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> You can ride all year? Jet stream anomaly or ? > > Curious; Canada is so beautiful, but so, ah, north. > > Mike Torst > Las Vegas >

Hi Mike. I should qualify the riding all year. It helps to be slightly stupid and being born in England ( which may be the same ). I'm in a small area influenced by the Pacific and most winter days are mild (45F) and rainy. Snow can be had by driving up the mountains and true winter starts just to the east and north. I thoroughly enjoy riding and cycling in the cold and tend to avoid both in the summer. I honestly don't know how you guys ride in the heat. I put central air in our house last year which would probably make you laugh. I've seen a lot of Canada and it is beautiful, but I still have yet to see a real American desert, some of those massive cactus, the Grand Canyon and some of the other things you have locally. And I'd probably live on the coast of Washington State (Whidbey Island or Port Townsend ) or cowboy country in Oregon if Canada invades and takes possession. Steve B.C.

Oh, such memories are still with me - I grew in Reno, Nevada (1960-1976) and still know most areas. For me the best riding was near Hunter Lake. Pat, I will be at the Laguna Seca Superbike Races this weekend (7-9,10,11). After the finals on Sunday (the 11th) I am thinking I will visit family rather than return to LA with the dozen riders I arrive with from Malibu, CA. Itinerary for the return trip is still to be determined, but several guys I know that will be in the Monterey area for the races are from the Reno / Tahoe area. As the KLR is not a 100hp plus bike, I may not tag along with their mega hp road bikes. If I go to Reno to see my family I'd like to met ya, if only for coffee, before I gather up and head south to Las Vegas. Of course, I could put my gear somewhere and we can go riding in the hills near your place. I am currently set-up w/ a 16t front sprocket so I can better keep up w/ the street bike riders. Of course, I can bring a 14t, just in case you want to go dirt riding. I would like to do so. Gardnerville, NV - Dang - I have my hunting and fishing license in my wallet as well... Mike Torst Las Vegas -----Original Message----- From: kdxkawboy@... [mailto:kdxkawboy@...] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:08 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Year Round Riding In a message dated 2004-07-06 7:55:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, shersant2003@... writes:

> I've seen a lot of Canada and it is beautiful, but I still have yet > to see a real American desert, some of those massive cactus, the > Grand Canyon and some of the other things you have locally. > And I'd probably live on the coast of Washington State (Whidbey > Island or Port Townsend ) or cowboy country in Oregon if Canada > invades and takes possession. > Steve > B.C. >

There are wondrous expanses to be seen in our western deserts. The AMA has a great tour of the southwest's canyonlands. No matter how many times I've seen the Moniment Valley in John Ford movies I wasn't prepared for the impact of riding through it, under escort of a Navajo guide. By following the Great Basin along the western slope of the Rockies and you can follow the old outlaw trails once ridden by the likes Butch Casey. And for all I've seen, will nothing matches the canyonlands for shear grandeur, the Great Basin is pockmarked with these great places to explore the leavings of our western migration. The Black Rock Desert, the ancient Bristlecone Pines, the Ruby Mountains, the Forty Mile Desert, the High Rock Desert Canyon Emigrant Trail, the Great Basin NP, the Rockie Mountain Oyster Cookoff in Virginia City, the Burning Man out in the Black Rock, the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, the Snake River, Pyramid Lake ad its legendary Lahaton Cutthroat Trout, following the footsteps of Fremont's explorations, wild horses, red tail hawks, bald eagles, loons, pelicans, and Mono Lake to toss out a short list. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

In a message dated 2004-07-06 11:28:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lasvegasrider@... writes:

> > Oh, such memories are still with me - I grew in Reno, Nevada (1960-1976) and > still know most areas. For me the best riding was near Hunter Lake. > > Pat, I will be at the Laguna Seca Superbike Races this weekend (7-9,10,11). > After the finals on Sunday (the 11th) I am thinking I will visit family > rather than return to LA with the dozen riders I arrive with from Malibu, > CA. > > Itinerary for the return trip is still to be determined, but several guys I > know that will be in the Monterey area for the races are from the Reno / > Tahoe area. As the KLR is not a 100hp plus bike, I may not tag along with > their mega hp road bikes. If I go to Reno to see my family I'd like to met > ya, if only for coffee, before I gather up and head south to Las Vegas. Of > course, I could put my gear somewhere and we can go riding in the hills near > your place. > > I am currently set-up w/ a 16t front sprocket so I can better keep up w/ the > street bike riders. Of course, I can bring a 14t, just in case you want to > go dirt riding. I would like to do so. > > Gardnerville, NV - Dang - I have my hunting and fishing license in my > wallet as well... > > > Mike Torst >

Mike I would love to get together with you, but while you are heading to Laguna Seca I'm off for the Bass Lake 250 DS ride this weekend. Friday I'm heading out to hook up with some buddies in Clovis and then onto Bass Lake. Come Monday I'll be traveling home. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ditto. I am a Southern Utah, Northern Arizona junky. Even the Big Bend Texas area is way cool. A friend of mine is always saying he wants to go to Ayers Rock in Australia ( probably 18 - 20 hours in the air - bummer). I asked him if he had been to Southern Utah and of coarse he said no. I told him they have some pretty cool rocks there. Sunrise at monument Valley or even Grand Canyon with all the people is church to me. Criswell kdxkawboy@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2004-07-06 7:55:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > shersant2003@... writes: > > > I've seen a lot of Canada and it is beautiful, but I still have yet > > to see a real American desert, some of those massive cactus, the > > Grand Canyon and some of the other things you have locally. > > And I'd probably live on the coast of Washington State (Whidbey > > Island or Port Townsend ) or cowboy country in Oregon if Canada > > invades and takes possession. > > Steve > > B.C. > > > > There are wondrous expanses to be seen in our western deserts. The AMA has a > great tour of the southwest's canyonlands. No matter how many times I've seen > the Moniment Valley in John Ford movies I wasn't prepared for the impact of > riding through it, under escort of a Navajo guide. By following the Great Basin > along the western slope of the Rockies and you can follow the old outlaw > trails once ridden by the likes Butch Casey. And for all I've seen, will nothing > matches the canyonlands for shear grandeur, the Great Basin is pockmarked with > these great places to explore the leavings of our western migration. The Black > Rock Desert, the ancient Bristlecone Pines, the Ruby Mountains, the Forty Mile > Desert, the High Rock Desert Canyon Emigrant Trail, the Great Basin NP, the > Rockie Mountain Oyster Cookoff in Virginia City, the Burning Man out in the > Black Rock, the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, the Snake River, Pyramid Lake ad > its legendary Lahaton Cutthroat Trout, following the footsteps of Fremont's > explorations, wild horses, red tail hawks, bald eagles, loons, pelicans, and > Mono Lake to toss out a short list. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

Here's another vote for the red rock country. I could spend months riding and hiking there. If you like the Grand Canyon but don't like crowds, take your KLR out to Toroweap. It's about the only place you can look 3000 feet straight down to the river, just above Lava Falls. You've seen it many times on calendars, make the ride and see it for yourself! __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, ron criswell wrote:

> Ditto. I am a Southern Utah, Northern Arizona junky. Even the Big

Bend Texas area is way cool. A friend of mine is always saying

> he wants to go to Ayers Rock in Australia ( probably 18 - 20 hours

in the air - bummer). I asked him if he had been to Southern

> Utah and of coarse he said no. I told him they have some pretty

cool rocks there.

> > Sunrise at monument Valley or even Grand Canyon with all the people

is church to me.

> > Criswell > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote: > > > In a message dated 2004-07-06 7:55:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > shersant2003@y... writes: > > > > > I've seen a lot of Canada and it is beautiful, but I still have

yet

> > > to see a real American desert, some of those massive cactus, the > > > Grand Canyon and some of the other things you have locally. > > > And I'd probably live on the coast of Washington State (Whidbey > > > Island or Port Townsend ) or cowboy country in Oregon if Canada > > > invades and takes possession. > > > Steve > > > B.C. > > > > > > > There are wondrous expanses to be seen in our western deserts.

The AMA has a

> > great tour of the southwest's canyonlands. No matter how many

times I've seen

> > the Moniment Valley in John Ford movies I wasn't prepared for the

impact of

> > riding through it, under escort of a Navajo guide. By following

the Great Basin

> > along the western slope of the Rockies and you can follow the old

outlaw

> > trails once ridden by the likes Butch Casey. And for all I've

seen, will nothing

> > matches the canyonlands for shear grandeur, the Great Basin is

pockmarked with

> > these great places to explore the leavings of our western

migration. The Black

> > Rock Desert, the ancient Bristlecone Pines, the Ruby Mountains,

the Forty Mile

> > Desert, the High Rock Desert Canyon Emigrant Trail, the Great

Basin NP, the

> > Rockie Mountain Oyster Cookoff in Virginia City, the Burning Man

out in the

> > Black Rock, the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, the Snake River,

Pyramid Lake ad

> > its legendary Lahaton Cutthroat Trout, following the footsteps of

Fremont's

> > explorations, wild horses, red tail hawks, bald eagles, loons,

pelicans, and

> > Mono Lake to toss out a short list. > > > > Pat > > G'ville, Nv > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List

FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html

> > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

> There are wondrous expanses to be seen in our western deserts. The

AMA has a

> great tour of the southwest's canyonlands. No matter how many

times I've seen

> the Moniment Valley in John Ford movies I wasn't prepared for the

impact of

> riding through it, under escort of a Navajo guide. By following

the Great Basin

> along the western slope of the Rockies and you can follow the old

outlaw

> trails once ridden by the likes Butch Casey. And for all I've

seen, will nothing

> matches the canyonlands for shear grandeur, the Great Basin is

pockmarked with

> these great places to explore the leavings of our western

migration. The Black

> Rock Desert, the ancient Bristlecone Pines, the Ruby Mountains,

the Forty Mile

> Desert, the High Rock Desert Canyon Emigrant Trail, the Great

Basin NP, the

> Rockie Mountain Oyster Cookoff in Virginia City, the Burning Man

out in the

> Black Rock, the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, the Snake River,

Pyramid Lake ad

> its legendary Lahaton Cutthroat Trout, following the footsteps of

Fremont's

> explorations, wild horses, red tail hawks, bald eagles, loons,

pelicans, and

> Mono Lake to toss out a short list. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv > >

Sounds impressive. I think anyone born in the late 40's and 50's must have a subliminal attraction to these areas. How could you not with a diet of Roy Rogers, the Lone Ranger, Hopalong Cassidy, Sky King, Rawhide, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Maverick....and on and on. I was really thrilled to visit Deadwood, but a bit disappointed in it a few years later when it seemed more touristy. I guess the Wild West lives on, at least in my generation. We keep meaning to head "South" and may just do so this winter. And it would be nice to visit these placed at a quiet (?) time. My wife (I think) has a fantasy of this handsome cowboy wearing nothing but chaps ! Too bad she settled for a bowlegged Limey wearing baggy y fronts. Steve

I wouldn't worry about being overrun with tourists in the wide open spaces of Nevada and Utah, though they do collect at the more popular parks and attractions, and unless you go way south, you'll find it pretty cold in the winter. My favorite month for desert travel is September, when the kids are in school, the weather is warm but not hot, and the days are still long enough to get a lot of riding in, but I'll go pretty much any time just to escape 'civilization'. __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hersant" wrote:

> > > Sounds impressive. I think anyone born in the late 40's and 50's > must have a subliminal attraction to these areas. How could you not > with a diet of Roy Rogers, the Lone Ranger, Hopalong Cassidy, Sky > King, Rawhide, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Maverick....and on and on. I was > really thrilled to visit Deadwood, but a bit disappointed in it a > few years later when it seemed more touristy. I guess the Wild West > lives on, at least in my generation. We keep meaning to

head "South"

> and may just do so this winter. And it would be nice to visit these > placed at a quiet (?) time. My wife (I think) has a fantasy of this > handsome cowboy wearing nothing but chaps ! Too bad she settled for > a bowlegged Limey wearing baggy y fronts. > Steve

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "mike torst" wrote:

> Oh, coastal weather. I am still in envy mode for your weather, but

I do like

> the desert for 9 months out of the year here in the SW US for

riding. I had

> planned on the Alaska trip, but I screwed up in April and put my

ankle into

> the 'out of commission' zone. > > Do you hunt? Our states tag allowance for northern Nevada is

complete and we

> did not get our requested permits. So now we are looking to Utah

and

> Colorado. > > If you are adverse to hunting, please accept my apologies for this

query.

> > Mike Torst > Las Vegas >

Why only 9 months ? Is it just too hot in the summer ? I check the continental temperatures once in a while and can't believe people can live in the tempertures down where you are. My KlR's rad fan came on for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I thought something was wrong ! I don't know much about hunting, but when we lived in the country, I sure enjoyed target shooting. Steve