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Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 8:35 am**

Notice a few are putting on chain oilers. I have a friend who went down because his chain oiler leaked a bit too much. You know oil and traction are not a good mix. For me I will just do it the old fashion way and risk a bit more chain wear. My Speed Triple sprung a fork leak awhile back and I went slipping and sliding, but fortunately stayed upright. Air forks sound real good to me. John A14

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 9:13 am**

What kind of oiler was he using? Just curious. Devon John J Fisher wrote:

> > Notice a few are putting on chain oilers. I have a friend who went down because > his chain oiler leaked a bit too much. You know oil and traction are not a good > mix. > For me I will just do it the old fashion way and risk a bit more chain wear. > > My Speed Triple sprung a fork leak awhile back and I went slipping and sliding, > but fortunately stayed upright. Air forks sound real good to me. > John > A14 > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 10:30 am**

Here is a note from him. Even though going down, he was not discouraged from continuing to use a chain oiler, but changed up the delivery method. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I replaced it with a manual/electric oiler from http://www.hawkeoiler.com The Scottoiler works ok on level ground but in the mountains, the delivery rate varies too much due to the constantly changing intake vacuum. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:12:40 -0400 From: Devon Jarvis Subject: Re: chain oiler What kind of oiler was he using? Just curious. Devon John J Fisher wrote:

> > Notice a few are putting on chain oilers. I have a friend who went down

because

> his chain oiler leaked a bit too much. You know oil and traction are not a

good

> mix. > For me I will just do it the old fashion way and risk a bit more chain wear. >

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 11:09 am**

Hi all, Chain oilers do work, specially if you ride in the mud a lot like me. I built mine with a PET coke bottle, a car tire valve, a piece of one of those bottled inflators and some fish tank hardware... you can regulate everything very easy. I sold it with the bike, but as soon as I have my new one I'll make another for it and will post a picture once I find out how to do that part... Juan

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:19 pm**

I know Hawke of Hawe chain oiler but didn't know he had this on the market. It was underdevelopment. I would think if he made it it would be a nice piece of machinery and more reliable than a Scott. I have had flow problems with the scott oiler, getting too unreliable to be of much use. I would think it would really need to puke it's guts to contribute to a crash, I've run mine at wide open and only ended up with a dirty wheel and swingarm, all on my XX not the KLR. --- John J Fisher wrote:

> > Here is a note from him. Even though going down, he > was not discouraged from > continuing to use a chain oiler, but > changed up the delivery method. > >

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> I replaced it with a manual/electric oiler from > http://www.hawkeoiler.com The Scottoiler works ok > on level ground > but in the mountains, the delivery rate varies too > much due to the > constantly changing intake vacuum. > >

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> > > > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:12:40 -0400 > From: Devon Jarvis > Subject: Re: chain oiler > > What kind of oiler was he using? Just curious. > > Devon > > John J Fisher wrote: > > > > Notice a few are putting on chain oilers. I have a > friend who went down > because > > his chain oiler leaked a bit too much. You know > oil and traction are not a > good > > mix. > > For me I will just do it the old fashion way and > risk a bit more chain wear. > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:38 pm**

Scottoiler has recently changed their metering valve to better control the flow of oil from their pump. I have the new models in stock. I too think you would have to have a major problem getting enough oil on the tire to cause it to break loose. I would think if your Scottoiler was adjusted properly and had the oil metered out on top of the tire instead of the chain that you still wouldn't have enough oil to cause a skid. http://www.actionstation.com/oiler.html Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com

----- Original Message ----- From: John Irvine To: John J Fisher ; jarvisd@... Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: chain oiler I know Hawke of Hawe chain oiler but didn't know he had this on the market. It was underdevelopment. I would think if he made it it would be a nice piece of machinery and more reliable than a Scott. I have had flow problems with the scott oiler, getting too unreliable to be of much use. I would think it would really need to puke it's guts to contribute to a crash, I've run mine at wide open and only ended up with a dirty wheel and swingarm, all on my XX not the KLR. --- John J Fisher wrote: > > Here is a note from him. Even though going down, he > was not discouraged from > continuing to use a chain oiler, but > changed up the delivery method. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I replaced it with a manual/electric oiler from > http://www.hawkeoiler.com The Scottoiler works ok > on level ground > but in the mountains, the delivery rate varies too > much due to the > constantly changing intake vacuum. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:12:40 -0400 > From: Devon Jarvis > Subject: Re: chain oiler > > What kind of oiler was he using? Just curious. > > Devon > > John J Fisher wrote: > > > > Notice a few are putting on chain oilers. I have a > friend who went down > because > > his chain oiler leaked a bit too much. You know > oil and traction are not a > good > > mix. > > For me I will just do it the old fashion way and > risk a bit more chain wear. > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: http://www.dualsportnews.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Mon Jul 09, 2001 9:32 pm**

In a related item, Andrew MacDonald (the Tech Q&A guy) in Riders August 2001 magazine was asked about covered rear drive chains. He replied that in the countries where a motorcycle is your primary vehicle and is a "hellishly expensive and a total commitment, you'll see bikes with covered chains. The life of a chain is extened enormously when rain and dirt is excluded, and no, they don't run hot when enclosed. These days we have O-rings sealed chains and high-tech lubricants which will endure five times the horsepower of my Uncle's old bike, but there are times I wonder how much further they'd last in, say, a stylish carbon-fiber enclosure. But let's face it, a completely covered chain is like a zit on a supermodel. It's hard to look at." He goes on an recommends to the guy who plans for fabricate one to put in two holes for chain lubing top and bottom and then get rubber plugs to close the holes. Long lasting chain, no chain lub spraying all over your tire...hmmm...Could even add a chain oiler too. "Fred Hink" on 07/09/2001 08:49:19 PM To: John J Fisher/SallieMae@SallieMae, jarvisd@..., "John Irvine" cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: chain oiler Scottoiler has recently changed their metering valve to better control the flow of oil from their pump. I have the new models in stock. I too think you would have to have a major problem getting enough oil on the tire to cause it to break loose. I would think if your Scottoiler was adjusted properly and had the oil metered out on top of the tire instead of the chain that you still wouldn't have enough oil to cause a skid. http://www.actionstation.com/oiler.html Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com

----- Original Message ----- From: John Irvine To: John J Fisher ; jarvisd@... Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: chain oiler I know Hawke of Hawe chain oiler but didn't know he had this on the market. It was underdevelopment. I would think if he made it it would be a nice piece of machinery and more reliable than a Scott. I have had flow problems with the scott oiler, getting too unreliable to be of much use. I would think it would really need to puke it's guts to contribute to a crash, I've run mine at wide open and only ended up with a dirty wheel and swingarm, all on my XX not the KLR. --- John J Fisher wrote: > > Here is a note from him. Even though going down, he > was not discouraged from > continuing to use a chain oiler, but > changed up the delivery method. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- > I replaced it with a manual/electric oiler from > http://www.hawkeoiler.com The Scottoiler works ok > on level ground > but in the mountains, the delivery rate varies too > much due to the > constantly changing intake vacuum. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 10:12:40 -0400 > From: Devon Jarvis > Subject: Re: chain oiler > > What kind of oiler was he using? Just curious. > > Devon > > John J Fisher wrote: > > > > Notice a few are putting on chain oilers. I have a > friend who went down > because > > his chain oiler leaked a bit too much. You know > oil and traction are not a > good > > mix. > > For me I will just do it the old fashion way and > risk a bit more chain wear. > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: http://www.dualsportnews.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:43 pm**

Have anyone tried the LOOBMAN chainoiler? Found the website while searching for chainoiler and wondered if its a good buy. Since its in UK price, anyone know the price in US?

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:44 pm**

On Sunday 23 November 2003 13:57, kenglena wrote:

> Since its in > UK price, anyone know the price in US?

$37 at http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store A $5 Nalgene bottle of 90w would get the job done, too.

Posted: **Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:39 pm**

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "kenglena" wrote:

> Have anyone tried the LOOBMAN chainoiler? Found the website while > searching for chainoiler and wondered if its a good buy. Since its

in

> UK price, anyone know the price in US?

Yes! As a matter of fact, I just installed mine 2 weeks ago, and was waiting till I had some time to use it, and get used to it, to give you all a report. It cost's $28.00 shipped to my door. I bought it using paypal, and it took about 3 weeks to get here. My thoughts on this nifty little cheap oiler are: THE GOOD STUFF 1. The little sucker actually works! 2. It is a very simple design. 3. Very simple to use. 4. Makes oiling your chain a breeze. 5. The whole thing stays put very well. I tested off road for 3 hours. 6. You can use ANY oil that you like. (cheap) 7. Oils both sides of your chain. THE BAD STUFF 1. Mounting the head, is a bit of a pain. You have to bend a piece of wire a bunch of times so that it is molded to your swingarm. 2. The wire is then mounted to your swingarm with a wire tie or two. Looks really cheesy. How ever, I already have a good idea how to mount it differently, so that all of the ugly is gone. I mounted mine up using the "ugly" wire and zip ties, just to ride it around for a while to see if I was even gonna like it, or if it even worked. I must say that I can't beleive that such a simple, light, and cheap little oiler works so well. It gets lots of raves with the V-Strom list, my friend tells me. I'm very happy that I got it. No more jacking up the rear wheel, or leaning the bike over, while holding the clutch, and spraying with the other hand. Now I just give the bottle a little squeeze, and ride off. I squeeze it again about every 100 miles. Very cool. I use Castrol 90 gear oil. It's cheap, nice and thick so it sticks well, and doesn't fling off very much. If you do get one, DO NOT FORGET to put the little hole in the line like the instructions tell you too. If you don't, the pressure in the bottle, from you going up in altitude, will put ALOT of oil down the tube, and then you will have a very oily chain, and possibly a very oily rear tire too. MrMoose A8 (Barbie and Ken special)

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