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I have several KLR's and they all do this. I set the bike level, held up from above by tie downs from the roof. I drain the oil, replace filter, the refill the crankcase. I will fill to the middle of the sightglass, run the engine once. usually fill quite abit more to the same spot. Run and check again. All looks good. Then I run around the block, check it and it still looks good. Then I put 30-40 miles on it and its over the top of the sightglass. It looks like it has too much oil in it. I used to go back and dump some out but have just left it this time. Has anyone else noticed this or am I doing something wrong? I dont want to blow any seals or anything but also want to have as much oil as possible in it. Any comments anyone? _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I like the KLR sightglass location, it lets you know when you need to add oil and that's what counts. One time I refilled with only two quarts, after ridding and then setting on the centerstand all night, the level was in the middle of the glass, so then I knew it needed a pint to be full. I always refill with 2 1/2 quarts, never blown a seal, and I don't believe there is any danger of it either. Allan A14 80,000 miles

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Stone" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Oil change - too much oil? > I have several KLR's and they all do this. I set the bike level, held up from above by tie downs from the roof. I drain the oil, replace filter, the refill the crankcase. I will fill to the middle of the sightglass, run the engine once. usually fill quite abit more to the same spot. Run and check again. All looks good. Then I run around the block, check it and it still looks good. Then I put 30-40 miles on it and its over the top of the sightglass. It looks like it has too much oil in it. I used to go back and dump some out but have just left it this time. Has anyone else noticed this or am I doing something wrong? I dont want to blow any seals or anything but also want to have as much oil as possible in it. Any comments anyone? > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Then I put 30-40 miles on it and its over the top of the sightglass. It looks like it has too much oil in it. I used to go back and dump some out but have just left it this time. Has anyone else noticed this or am I doing something wrong? I dont want to blow any seals or anything but also want to have as much oil as possible in it. Any comments anyone?

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Ken, When I bought my 03 KLR used a few weeks ago the oil level was at the bottom of the sight glass. I figured it was ok since that's the way it was with my XT350 too. I rode it about 60 miles and did an oil change. I almost always measure the oil I put in the engine and put the 2.5 liters in like marked on the side of the case. I don't know that I ever did see the top of the oil level when checking it. A week later I did another oil change since I'd ridden 1,500 smiles and I measured what came out and what I put back in. I got about 2.3 liters out of the engine best as I could tell. I figured that was good since the engine was still being broken in and I'd been riding it hard while in Texas. I guess next time I do an oil change I'll only add 2.0 liters and see just where that level is on the sight glass. Then I'll add 0.5 liters to put it right. Best, Jeff Saline Airhead # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota '75 R90/6, '03 KLR650, '79 R100RT, '00 H-D MT-500

Hey, when you're checking your oil level, you ARE doing so with the bike vertical right? If you check it on the sidestand you're not going to see much oil. A measured 2.5l put my level well above the glass, if I could see the top of the level in the glass, I'd be adding some.

> Ken, > > When I bought my 03 KLR used a few weeks ago the oil level was at the > bottom of the sight glass. I figured it was ok since that's the way > it > was with my XT350 too. I rode it about 60 miles and did an oil > change. > I almost always measure the oil I put in the engine and put the 2.5 > liters in like marked on the side of the case. I don't know that I > ever > did see the top of the oil level when checking it.

From: Chris [mailto: kingsqueak@...]

>Hey, when you're checking your oil level, you ARE doing so with >the bike vertical right? If you check it on the sidestand >you're not going to see much oil. A measured 2.5l put my level >well above the glass, if I could see the top of the level in >the glass, I'd be adding some.

Yes the bike is on level ground and is prefectly vertical. What I dont understand is how you can end up with more oil. In either case, I am not putting more than 2.5l so I dont think its enought to blow a seal. Thats what I was worried about. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

I did notice it took quite a big angle to both sides to get the oil that was 'hiding' in the case to drain. I leaned the bike on the lift hard to either side about twice to get most of it out. It was a pretty large quantity in there after the initial draining was done. A good half pint I'd estimate from all the kitty litter I needed to clean up after I was done making a mess of the place. Still more in the filter housing...which is the reason for the shiny clean streak on that side of the motor.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 05:50:26PM -0500, Ken Stone wrote: > > From: Chris [mailto: kingsqueak@...] > >Hey, when you're checking your oil level, you ARE doing so with >the bike vertical right? If you check it on the sidestand > >you're not going to see much oil. A measured 2.5l put my level >well above the glass, if I could see the top of the level in > >the glass, I'd be adding some. > > Yes the bike is on level ground and is prefectly vertical. What I dont understand is how you can end up with more oil. In either case, I am not putting more than 2.5l so I dont think its enought to blow a seal. Thats what I was worried about. -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

In a message dated 2003-10-27 7:38:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, pat@... writes:

> > My guess (and hope) is that the Kawa would be more "dirt" worthy than > the Strom so the two models would have some level of differentiation. > > Pat - > @... > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" wrote: > >I would hope they do something like a Caponord with the motor, make > it > >a real trailie. It strikes me as odd that the sharing between the > two > >companies resulted in a DRZ but with green plastic. Would be > smarter > >business to combine resources to make the broadest model line > between > >them. >

While I might wish for more, it doesn't strike me as odd about the rebadging of various models as that was part of the plan from day one. They had always planned to share models as a way of filling out the holes in each other's lineup. The surprise this year has been the new 250 four stroke MX: a Suzuki designed engine in a Kawasaki designed frame. It may be the same bike rather bought with yellow or green plastic, but it is a new model that is the result of joint engineering. I hope its the sign of more to come with new models. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]