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				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:51 am
				by ART
				Has anybody tried these out?  
 Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount 
 possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
 If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:29 am
				by Judson D. Jones
				Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If  you do, you risk 
 bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but 
 because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring 
 rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride 
 height.
 
 
 --- In 
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Art"  
 wrote:
 
 > Has anybody tried these out?  
 > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum 
  
amount 
 
 > possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
 > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too. 
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:42 am
				by Devon Jarvis
				"Judson D. Jones" wrote:
 
 > 
 > Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If  you do, you risk
 > bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but
 > because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring
 > rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride
 > height.
 > 
 > --- In 
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Art" 
 > wrote:
 > > Has anybody tried these out?
 
  
At 5'7" I'll second this. At the least you should try
 setting the shock preload to 1, and raising the forks in the
 triples about 1". 
 
 Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock
 lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the
 problem that Judson mentions.
 
 Devon
 
 -- 
 "It's a troublesome world, 
 all the people who are in it, 
 are troubled with troubles 
 almost every minute"
 
 Dr. Seuss
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:49 am
				by ART
				Where can this be done?  I've searched all around this area, and 
 nobody works on anything except HD.
 
 
 
 > Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock
 > lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the
 > problem that Judson mentions.
 > 
 > Devon 
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:05 am
				by Doug Herr
				On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
 
 
 > Has anybody tried these out?  
 > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount 
 > possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
 > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
 
  
My wife and I each have A16's.
 
 Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising
 actually) of the fork tubes.  She is 160lbs and is not much of a
 dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue.
 
 They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out
 in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and
 thus did write to them about the issue...
 
 
 
 > Hi Doug,
 > 
 > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end
 > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured
 > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front
 > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his
 > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD 

. Beyond 3" could be an
 > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has
 > fleshed out no problems at 3". 
 > 
 > Sincerely, Dave support@...
 
 
 
  
-- 
 Doug Herr
 doug@...
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 am
				by ART
				Thanks for replying!
 Man, this is great news!
 
 Did you use the scootworks links?
 Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
 Raising the forks 3 inches clears the handlebars okay?
 Art
 
 
 
 --- In 
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Herr  wrote:
 > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
 > 
 > > Has anybody tried these out?  
 > > Would like to be able to lower seat height the maximum amount 
 > > possible, and these are the lowest links I've seen.
 > > If these really work, then I'll do the other lowering tricks, too.
 > 
 > My wife and I each have A16's.
 > 
 > Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising
 > actually) of the fork tubes.  She is 160lbs and is not much of a
 > dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue.
 > 
 > They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out
 > in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and
 > thus did write to them about the issue...
 > 
 > 
 > > Hi Doug,
 > > 
 > > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end
 > > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured
 > > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front
 > > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his
 > > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD 

. Beyond 3" could be an
 > > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has
 > > fleshed out no problems at 3". 
 > > 
 > > Sincerely, Dave support@s...
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Doug Herr
 > doug@w... 
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:29 am
				by Devon Jarvis
				Art wrote:
 
 > 
 > Where can this be done?  I've searched all around this area, and
 > nobody works on anything except HD.
 > 
 > > Rather than the 3" links, I would suggest you have the shock
 > > lowered by a suspension shop- this will avoid all of the
 > > problem that Judson mentions.
 > >
 
  
I would think 
http://www.precisionconceptsracing.com/ could
 do it, 
www.pro-tecperformance.com could do it, basically
 anyone who does dirtbike shock work. 
 
 If the Scootworks kit contains a spacer that will prevent
 the tire from eating the fender then the only problems are
 changing the geometry of the linkage and bottoming. Get a
 metal bash plate, stay away from rocks, and you'll probably
 want a better spring on the rear shock anyway. 
 
 See what a shop will charge to lower the shock, vs the
 scootworks kit. I'm curious which works out better. 
 
 Devon
 A15-Z
 
 
 -- 
 "It's a troublesome world, 
 all the people who are in it, 
 are troubled with troubles 
 almost every minute"
 
 Dr. Seuss
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:18 am
				by Doug Herr
				On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Art wrote:
 
 
 > Thanks for replying!
 > Man, this is great news!
 > 
 > Did you use the scootworks links?
 > Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
 
  
It was the Scootworks 1" to 3" set and they came with the spacer.
 I have not installed the spacer since her bike did not need it.
 The instructions were that it should be used if the rear shock
 ever bottomed out.  Hers has never come close so I have not
 bothered to install it, but the installation looked pretty easy.
 
 
 
 > Raising the forks 3 inches clears the handlebars okay?
 
  
Yup, no trouble there.
 
 
 
 
 > > My wife and I each have A16's.
 > > 
 > > Her bike is lowered the full 3" with a matching lowering (raising
 > > actually) of the fork tubes.  She is 160lbs and is not much of a
 > > dirt rider, so the bottoming out does not seem to be an issue.
 > > 
 > > They provide a spacer for the rear shock to avoid bottoming out
 > > in the back, so it was the front end that I was worried about and
 > > thus did write to them about the issue...
 > > 
 > > 
 > > > Hi Doug,
 > > > 
 > > > There are lots of those bikes out there with the front end
 > > > lowered 3". We've never heard of the front tire become captured
 > > > by the fender during full stroke compression of the front
 > > > forks. One of our locals is about 325 lbs, and rides his
 > > > lowered at 3"...and he rides HARD 

. Beyond 3" could be an
 > > > issue, but our experience in the shop and in the field has
 > > > fleshed out no problems at 3". 
 > > > 
 > > > Sincerely, Dave support@s...
 
  
-- 
 Doug Herr
 doug@...
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:49 pm
				by Marv Schmid
				> > Did you use the scootworks links?
 > > Whoe provided the spacer you mentioned?
 >
  
I installed the Scootworks 3" links on both my wife's and my KLR 650. I also
 dropped the front end by 1 1/2" by sliding the forks up. Both these bikes
 are primarily used on the street. I weigh 220# and did not install the rear
 shock spacer provided and have yet to bottom out. The bikes also handle much
 better with the lower center of gravity.
 
 Marv Schmid
 Spring Hill,Fl.
 
			 
			
					
				scootworks 3-inch lowering links?
				Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:06 pm
				by Thor Lancelot Simon
				On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote:
 
 > 
 > "Judson D. Jones" wrote:
 > > 
 > > Why do you wnt to lower the bike that far? If  you do, you risk
 > > bottoming on the fender, not just because the bike sits lower, but
 > > because the change in geometry reduces the effective spring
 > > rate. Many riders 5'8" and under have adapted to the stock ride
 > > height.
 
  
So, my friend Xep wants a KLR _soooooo_ bad.  But she's somewhere around
 5'4" and has short legs... we spent a day or so looking at mine and
 figuring out where things would be if lowered as much as possible by
 the usual methods (2" or so from links/moving front fork in clamps, 1-2"
 from dished corbin seat) and it just didn't look like she'd be able to
 safely handle the bike unless we could squeeze out at least another
 inch of lowering.  We put her on the seat of mine and measured the
 toe-to-ground distance and it was looking like a total of about 5" would
 be required.  I think she'll be pretty happy to hear that 3" lowering
 links are available!