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Yes, $160 is expensive ... but they are manufactured by Americans and American labor and hardware is far more expensive than the Chinese labor and Chinese hardware that go towards making the $100 hydraulic lifts. barnaby -----Original Message----- From: boagy1 [mailto:boagy1@...] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:16 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Searching for a Center Stand Does anyone know of any other manufacturer of centerstands out there other than Dual-Star? Their price of $160 plus shipping is a little unreasonable I think, considering I've seen hydraulic lifts for less than $100. Any input would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Frank List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Not to mention that the $100 lift, which I have, is a sloppy piece of crap. It works, if only just adaquately, which is the same I can say for my Delta drill press*, which is also made in China. Devon * Made with pride by former members of China's pro-democracy movement, in People's Machine Works and Re-Education Camp #5 Barnaby Robson wrote:

> > Yes, $160 is expensive ... > but they are manufactured by Americans > and American labor and hardware is > far more expensive than the Chinese labor > and Chinese hardware that go towards making > the $100 hydraulic lifts. > > barnaby > > -----Original Message----- > From: boagy1 [mailto:boagy1@...] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:16 AM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Searching for a Center Stand > > Does anyone know of any other manufacturer of centerstands out there > other than Dual-Star? Their price of $160 plus shipping is a little > unreasonable I think, considering I've seen hydraulic lifts for less > than $100. Any input would greatly be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Frank >

Not to mention, I would look funny riding around with that really heavy and large M/C lift straped to the rack. Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Barnaby Robson" wrote: > Yes, $160 is expensive ... > but they are manufactured by Americans > and American labor and hardware is > far more expensive than the Chinese labor > and Chinese hardware that go towards making > the $100 hydraulic lifts. > > barnaby > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: boagy1 [mailto:boagy1@y...] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:16 AM > To: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Searching for a Center Stand > > > Does anyone know of any other manufacturer of centerstands out there > other than Dual-Star? Their price of $160 plus shipping is a little > unreasonable I think, considering I've seen hydraulic lifts for less > than $100. Any input would greatly be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Frank > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

RiderHaus (Real Ah-muhr-i-cans living in Germany -- if that's important to you) seem to have a Five Star center-stand to fit the KLR650 for $80 http://www.riderhaus.com/five_stars/five_stars.shtml KLR650 298100000002 Center stand Black 87-90 KL650A $80 Tell them "Greg From Seattle" sent ya... In fact, I think I might be ording one myself.... Or at least put it on my Christmas list for Santa. -Greg -----Original Message----- From: Devon Jarvis [mailto:jarvisd@...] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:22 AM To: KLR650 group Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Searching for a Center Stand Not to mention that the $100 lift, which I have, is a sloppy piece of crap. It works, if only just adaquately, which is the same I can say for my Delta drill press*, which is also made in China. Devon * Made with pride by former members of China's pro-democracy movement, in People's Machine Works and Re-Education Camp #5 Barnaby Robson wrote:

> > Yes, $160 is expensive ... > but they are manufactured by Americans > and American labor and hardware is > far more expensive than the Chinese labor > and Chinese hardware that go towards making > the $100 hydraulic lifts. > > barnaby > > -----Original Message----- > From: boagy1 [mailto:boagy1@...] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:16 AM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Searching for a Center Stand > > Does anyone know of any other manufacturer of centerstands out there > other than Dual-Star? Their price of $160 plus shipping is a little > unreasonable I think, considering I've seen hydraulic lifts for less > than $100. Any input would greatly be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Frank >

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Try Fred @ Arrowheadmotorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html

> > -----Original Message----- > > From: boagy1 [mailto:boagy1@...] > > Does anyone know of any other manufacturer of > centerstands out there > > other than Dual-Star? Their price of $160 plus > shipping is a little > > unreasonable I think, considering I've seen > hydraulic lifts for less > > than $100. Any input would greatly be > appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Frank

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Products made in China are made by slave labor. I don't go out of my way to buy American products, but I think we should draw the line at supporting those who live by exploiting others. K. D. Bailey

> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:04:59 -0800 > From: "Barnaby Robson" > Subject: RE: Searching for a Center Stand > > Yes, $160 is expensive ... > but they are manufactured by Americans > and American labor and hardware is > far more expensive than the Chinese labor > and Chinese hardware that go towards making > the $100 hydraulic lifts. > > barnaby

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All electronic products are contracted out to Chinese assemblers and engineers. All scrap computers go back to China to be recycled. This will be true in 5 years. Workers are paid $0.30/hr. and work 18 hrs. per day. Hi tech companies are the new sweatshop in China and we all are supporting the greed. Conall

>From: "Keaven D. Bailey" >Reply-To: kdbailey@... >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: RE: Searching for a Center Stand >Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 16:51:50 -0800 (PST) > >Products made in China are made by slave labor. I >don't go out of my way to buy American products, but >I think we should draw the line at supporting those >who live by exploiting others. > >K. D. Bailey > > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:04:59 -0800 > > From: "Barnaby Robson" > > Subject: RE: Searching for a Center Stand > > > > Yes, $160 is expensive ... > > but they are manufactured by Americans > > and American labor and hardware is > > far more expensive than the Chinese labor > > and Chinese hardware that go towards making > > the $100 hydraulic lifts. > > > > barnaby

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> It's just tryin to match your ass, man. > > > Stu >

Speaking of which...I'm sure some of you have read the moto-seat article in the latest MCN. The writer explained in scientific ( pseudo scientific ?) terms - graphs and all - how a big ass is a great ( pun intended ) advantage for comfort on any motorcycle's seat. A small butt - conversely - is an unredeemable disadvantage. All has to do with psi, pressure points etc. Bogdan