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250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 11:47 am
by Allan Patton
>>>Except... he couldn't get it started
Nate,
Don't do what I did. (disclaimer) I bought a '82 XL500R, the street legal
one anyway. It had been sitting in a nice garage for four years. Looked
great, except for a few marks where it had been dropped on the right side.
186 miles. At the time, I was not into dual sports, so I was just helping
someone get it started so he could sell it. It was his son's bike. Fresh
gas, and tried to kick it. I don't think I had kicked anything since the
'60s. So we pulled it behind his little pickup. Less than two blocks, and it
was running. I ended up buying it and had it for nine years. And that's how
I got into dual sport bikes.
Again, I do not condone pulling a bike behind a car to start it.
Allan A14
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 12:08 pm
by vfr523
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Allan Patton" wrote:
> >>>Except... he couldn't get it started
> Again, I do not condone pulling a bike behind a car to start it.
>
> Allan A14
Hehe, thanks, Allan. You know, I contemplated this method (or a
simple bump start). Then I decided that I'd try silly stuff like
that once I got the bike to my house. No sense in this guy thinking
he's got a perfectly good motorbike .
Of course, like I said before, I might have just bought an expensive
lawn ornament.
Nate in N.E.
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 1:03 pm
by Judson D. Jones
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Allan Patton" wrote:
> Again, I do not condone pulling a bike behind a car to start it.
But there's sure nothing wrong with pulling it behind an ATV.
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 1:31 pm
by Allan Patton
----- Original Message -----
>>>I do not condone pulling a bike behind a car to start it.
When I said that, my concern was that a low hour rider might try it, fall
down, and get hurt. The car driver needs to be someone you can trust to pay
attention, like another rider. You don't want to have someone take off, and
then later discover they have been dragging the bike on it's side for a
mile.
I have pulled bikes behind ATVs, cars, and even tractors to start them.
Usually, 20 MPH is sufficient to start a bike, if its going to start at all.
That bike that had not run in four years started in less than two blocks.
Allan
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 2:47 pm
by Allan Patton
An ATV is best because of it's size. If you put on your breaks, the driver
will know it.
I try to tie the rope around the forks above the lower clamps. You won't be
able to hold it by hand, it pulls too hard, and you need your hands of
operate the controls. I use a small rope, I'd rather break the rope than
anything else. (You can use a chain if its a rat bike.)
Gas and ignition on, of course. Hey, its be forgotten before. May want to
adjust the choke as you go. Probably third gear. When you have some speed,
stand up on the pegs a little. Drop your butt onto the seat and dump the
clutch at the same time. If you let the clutch out easy, it will come up on
compression and slide the tire. That's when you are most likely to fall.
Allan
----- Original Message -----
From: "vfr523"
To: "Allan Patton"
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: 250 shopping, bike won't start! NKLR
> Okay,
>
> So I've heard of it, but never actually done it myself, and am now
> more and more intrigued.
>
> I've ridden 18,000 miles since March, this year alone, so I don't
> think I'm a low hour rider
>
> I imagine the scenario's something like: 2nd or 3rd gear with the
> clutch out, ignition on, just get pulled along til it fires? Do you
> hang on to the rope/strap, or actually attach it to the bike
> somewhere?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> Nate
>
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:03 pm
by Judson D. Jones
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Allan Patton" wrote:
> An ATV is best because of it's size. If you put on your breaks, the
driver
> will know it.
>
> I try to tie the rope around the forks above the lower clamps. You
won't be
> able to hold it by hand, it pulls too hard, and you need your hands
of
> operate the controls. I use a small rope, I'd rather break the rope
than
I like to loop the rope or strap once around the crossbar, then run it
out the left bar and hold it down with the palm of my clutch hand.
That way, it's pulling from close to the centerline, I can hold it,
but I can drop the rope if I need to.
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:12 pm
by Arden Kysely
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Allan Patton" wrote:
Regarding towing...
>You won't be able to hold it by hand, it pulls too hard, and you
>need your hands of operate the controls.
Tying the rope to the bike is a recipe for disaster. The safest way
to tow a bike is to wrap the rope around the left fork once to get a
good center(ish) pull, then bring it up to the handlebar, loop it a
couple times around the bar and hold onto the end on the clutch side.
You may have to take off a hand fairing to do this, but this method
gives the poor guy being towed a way to break off the tow in an
emergency.
If you're using a tow to start the bike, a long rope will give the
guy on tow a chance to stop if the tow vehicle stops. For towing a
bike behind a bike for longer distances, a short rope works OK. I've
towed and been towed many miles. It's not fun, but it's better than
walking.
__Arden
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:31 pm
by KJ
I once pull started my RM125 with a snowmobile. The bike didn't have a kick
starter and push starting on the ice was a real PITA.
Karl
A14
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Allan Patton" wrote:
>> An ATV is best because of it's size. If you put on your breaks, the
> driver
>> will know it.
>>
>> I try to tie the rope around the forks above the lower clamps. You
> won't be
>> able to hold it by hand, it pulls too hard, and you need your hands
> of
>> operate the controls. I use a small rope, I'd rather break the rope
> than
>
> I like to loop the rope or strap once around the crossbar, then run it
> out the left bar and hold it down with the palm of my clutch hand.
> That way, it's pulling from close to the centerline, I can hold it,
> but I can drop the rope if I need to.
>
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250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:37 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> Again, I do not condone pulling a bike behind a car to start it.
>
> Allan A14
>
Would you condone taking it to the top of a sky jump and riding down ?
Bogdan
250 shopping, bike won't start! nklr
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:00 pm
by dooden
Oh My... roll it down the ramp of a KC-130 at 20,000 feet ?? Thats a
good Sky Jump.
What are you a member of the Delta Team or what ?
Perhaps Marine Recon ?
Dooden
Retired Sailor, and never jumped outta a perfectly good airplane.
Ya'll know what Marine stands for right ?
(M)y (A)ss (R)ides (I)n (N)avy (E)quipment
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bogdan Swider" wrote:
>
>
>
> > Again, I do not condone pulling a bike behind a car to start it.
> >
> > Allan A14
> >
> Would you condone taking it to the top of a sky jump and riding down ?
>
> Bogdan