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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:19 pm**

Anybody got a line on KLR spares sitting in a junkyard somewhere? Such as a complete engine ('96 or newer of course), forks, plastics, tanks, etc? And what would one expect to pay for a junkyard engine, forks, etc? (doesn't hurt to be prepared,

Tnx, rick

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:24 pm**

Check out http://www.ranchomotorcycle.com/ I've never dealt with them, but they are only about an hour away from where i live, in a group of other car recyclers http://www.rcsr.com , they don't have parts listed on the page but they have an 800 number and I'm sure they have a few wrecked KLRs in thier yard somewhere. Happy Hunting Trev A16

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Rick" wrote: > Anybody got a line on KLR spares sitting in a junkyard somewhere? > Such as a complete engine ('96 or newer of course), forks, plastics, > tanks, etc? > > And what would one expect to pay for a junkyard engine, forks, etc? > (doesn't hurt to be prepared, > > Tnx, > rick

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 1:28 pm**

On Mon, 2002-09-16 at 14:19, Rick wrote:

> Anybody got a line on KLR spares sitting in a junkyard somewhere?

If you find one, don't share it with anyone

> Such as a complete engine ('96 or newer of course)

What do you have against pre 96's? The engine are the same, the clutch basket "upgrade" matters little, and the balancer sprockets can be easily updated for ~$90. Any engine will work fine...

> > And what would one expect to pay for a junkyard engine, forks, etc? > (doesn't hurt to be prepared,

More than the parts are worth. I have yet to run across a junkyard that doesn't gouge. For example, the insurance company totalled my KLR back in May, I bought it back from them for $185 (the highest salvage bid they received). See if you can find a junkyard that will charge less than $350 for a rear wheel. Just on that part alone the yard would have made 100% profit on my scrapped bike. Z DC

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 2:58 pm**

Most the salvage yards I've visited in the northeast OK. area, haven't got much in newer than a 1979 YZ Monoshock. Zachariah Mully wrote:On Mon, 2002-09-16 at 14:19, Rick wrote:

> Anybody got a line on KLR spares sitting in a junkyard somewhere?

If you find one, don't share it with anyone

> Such as a complete engine ('96 or newer of course)

What do you have against pre 96's? The engine are the same, the clutch basket "upgrade" matters little, and the balancer sprockets can be easily updated for ~$90. Any engine will work fine...

> > And what would one expect to pay for a junkyard engine, forks, etc? > (doesn't hurt to be prepared,

More than the parts are worth. I have yet to run across a junkyard that doesn't gouge. For example, the insurance company totalled my KLR back in May, I bought it back from them for $185 (the highest salvage bid they received). See if you can find a junkyard that will charge less than $350 for a rear wheel. Just on that part alone the yard would have made 100% profit on my scrapped bike. Z DC Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 3:27 pm**

As a former small business owner, and confirmed capitalist, I need to offer my 2 cents. Using your example of the rear wheel, let's say you win a contest we give you the keys to the salvage and let you live the dream of being and overpaid salvage yard operator for a month. Calculate your fixed costs like land, building, tools and equipment,etc. Then try to guestimate your variables such as inventory, carrying costs, liability insurance, fire insurance, medical insurance, labor (to remove/inspect/stock inventory), inventory losses (only a partial percentage of the inventory you buy is usable) etc. Now, how many $350 rear wheels do you have to sell to support your family and have a lifestyle that lets you have a dualsport bike as a hobby? K.C. Monkton Vermont A14 - Big Green F#%*er 00 ZRX - Vermonster

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., david gay wrote: > > More than the parts are worth. I have yet to run across a junkyard that doesn't gouge. For example, the insurance company totalled my KLR back in May, I bought it back from them for $185 (the highest salvage bid they received). See if you can find a junkyard that will charge less than $350 for a rear wheel. Just on that part alone the yard would have made 100% profit on my scrapped bike. > > Z > DC > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 3:58 pm**

On Mon, 2002-09-16 at 16:27, Kevin Corrigan wrote:

> As a former small business owner, and confirmed capitalist, I need to > offer my 2 cents. Using your example of the rear wheel, let's say > you win a contest we give you the keys to the salvage and let you > live the dream of being and overpaid salvage yard operator for a > month. Calculate your fixed costs like land, building, tools and > equipment,etc. Then try to guestimate your variables such as > inventory, carrying costs, liability insurance, fire insurance, > medical insurance, labor (to remove/inspect/stock inventory), > inventory losses (only a partial percentage of the inventory you buy > is usable) etc. Now, how many $350 rear wheels do you have to sell > to support your family and have a lifestyle that lets you have a > dualsport bike as a hobby? >

Yes, that's all fine and dandy, I can see the cost of doing business, but figure that you can get the following parts off of most salvage bikes: rear wheel, engine, seat, swingarm, rear shock, rear cowlings, etc. as you have to figure that most bikes die from head on collisions. Even at 50% of OEM (which is usually the going rate) I still think that you'd make a killing. If my bike, which had cracked engine cases, but was otherwise functional, only cost me $185 to buy from the insurance company, and I have the potential to make $350 (rear wheel) + $150 swingarm + $200 front wheel + $800-1000 engine + $200-300 forks + $200 rear subframe + $300 body + $200 instrumentation + etc. etc., how is that NOT gouging? None of these parts take more than minimum wage to remove, and if I didn't have my head up my ass and cataloged everything properly, I don't see how I couldn't make $2000+ for my $185 dollar investment. Even if 85% of your gross is eaten up by operating costs, that's still 85% of over 100% return on investment. And if one was smart one would set up shop somewhere cheap and put the parts catalog online. Money, money, money. Z DC

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 4:21 pm**

> As a former small business owner, and confirmed capitalist, > K.C. > Monkton Vermont >

I didn't think there were any confirmed capitalists left in Vermont. Bogdan

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 7:44 pm**

Good point, most of Vermont is a very rural and normal place. Unfortunately the Burlington Vt. area has stained our reputation around the county. Burlington (which is located on Lake Champlain) is known as the "West coast of New England". An old Vermonter in my town said it best, "God must have shaken Vermont and everything loose went to Burlington!" It is a pretty interesting place to be both politically and as an outdoorsman, there is rarely a dull moment here. K.C.

----- Original Message ----- From: Bogdan Swider Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:21 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com; Kevin Corrigan Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: KLR spares in junkyard? > As a former small business owner, and confirmed capitalist, > K.C. > Monkton Vermont > I didn't think there were any confirmed capitalists left in Vermont. Bogdan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 8:17 pm**

Zach, your description is perfect. Where we differ is that what you call gouging ,I call business. Price is set by what the market will bare. The manufactures cost of any particular hard good is a fraction of what they charge the dealer. Kawasaki's total cost for a KLR that the dealer charges $5k for is most likely less than $2k. But we were all still willing to buy one. Thats how they pay all their costs, make a profit, and give value back to the shareholders. Just because the salvage operator isn't wearing a suit dosn't mean he isn't smart enough to calculate the market value of his product. If the market supply is greater than demand he will drop his price. If demand is greater than supply his product, the aforementioned $350 rear wheel, is worth every penny he is charging. K.C. Monkton Vermont A14 - Big Green F#%*er 00 -ZRX - Vermonster

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Zachariah Mully wrote: > On Mon, 2002-09-16 at 16:27, Kevin Corrigan wrote: > > As a former small business owner, and confirmed capitalist, I need to > > offer my 2 cents. Using your example of the rear wheel, let's say > > you win a contest we give you the keys to the salvage and let you > > live the dream of being and overpaid salvage yard operator for a > > month. Calculate your fixed costs like land, building, tools and > > equipment,etc. Then try to guestimate your variables such as > > inventory, carrying costs, liability insurance, fire insurance, > > medical insurance, labor (to remove/inspect/stock inventory), > > inventory losses (only a partial percentage of the inventory you buy > > is usable) etc. Now, how many $350 rear wheels do you have to sell > > to support your family and have a lifestyle that lets you have a > > dualsport bike as a hobby? > > > > Yes, that's all fine and dandy, I can see the cost of doing business, > but figure that you can get the following parts off of most salvage > bikes: rear wheel, engine, seat, swingarm, rear shock, rear cowlings, > etc. as you have to figure that most bikes die from head on collisions. > Even at 50% of OEM (which is usually the going rate) I still think that > you'd make a killing. If my bike, which had cracked engine cases, but > was otherwise functional, only cost me $185 to buy from the insurance > company, and I have the potential to make $350 (rear wheel) + $150 > swingarm + $200 front wheel + $800-1000 engine + $200-300 forks + $200 > rear subframe + $300 body + $200 instrumentation + etc. etc., how is > that NOT gouging? None of these parts take more than minimum wage to > remove, and if I didn't have my head up my ass and cataloged everything > properly, I don't see how I couldn't make $2000+ for my $185 dollar > investment. Even if 85% of your gross is eaten up by operating costs, > that's still 85% of over 100% return on investment. > > And if one was smart one would set up shop somewhere cheap and put the > parts catalog online. Money, money, money. > > Z > DC

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2002 9:30 pm**

At 08:27 PM 9/16/2002 -0000, you wrote:

>As a former small business owner, and confirmed capitalist, I need to >offer my 2 cents. Using your example of the rear wheel, let's say

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>is usable) etc. Now, how many $350 rear wheels do you have to sell >to support your family and have a lifestyle that lets you have a >dualsport bike as a hobby? > >K.C. >Monkton Vermont

HEY, HEY, HEY, let's not have any reality creep in to this. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa

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