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				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:10 am
				by Bert Fox, Nevada MGNOC rep
				I recently took a reunion tour with an old friend. We
 had traveled together for ten years on our
 motorcycles. Due to family and jobs we had not toured
 together since 1985 or so. He had borrowed an 1983
 Goldwing Interstate and I had just recently purchased
 an 02 R1150RT BMW. We ventured N into Montana and up
 into B.C. and came down thru N Idaho. On Monday, July
 22, we had departed our campsite at Cedar Creek
 Campground on State Hwy 3 about 3 miles N of Clarkia,
 ID. A few miles South of Clarkia and 3 miles N of
 Bovill, it happened...I never saw it coming, I did not
 even have time to apply brakes or know there was a
 threat. I just simply exploded into something that had
 not been apparent. It was a two year old White Tailed
 buck. My friend, Bruce, had been a couple hundred
 yards behind me. We had been traveling at about 70 mph
 at 9:30 AM. He thought I had hit a brown cardboard box
 for an instant, then he realized I had hit a deer. The
 impact was on my left front center. It knocked off
 both mirrors, broke the fairing in multiple places,
 sheared of some valve cover mounted rider pegs, and
 completely sheared off my left saddlebag. It also
 impacted my left leg as it went by and then went
 around and under the rear of the bike. It completely
 eviscerated the stomach cavity and broke both front
 legs. I came to a stop without going down. At the time
 I did not know the extent of damage or what I had hit.
 When I realized how hard the impact had been and that
 I was upright and OK, I was nearly sick as the nervous
 system adjusted to the new details. I expect the
 damage to be at least $3000 with the fairing damage.
 It doesn't look that bad until I itemize all the
 pieces that are cracked, bent, broken, or scratched.
 We collected all the pieces and drove on into Moscow,
 ID and after filing a report with the Latah County
 Sheriff Dept., we went to a packing/shipping store and
 mailed all the stuff back. We adjusted our route and
 schedule and I drove the wounded beemer home.
 I don't know exactly what I have learned from all of
 this. I do know it simply wasn't my time. I also had
 on full protective riding gear, and was riding with
 concentration and watching for the very thing that I
 incurred. Even so, I did not see the deer come out of
 the dark shadows or even approach the travel lane. If
 I had braked or swerved, it may not have been a good
 thing...
 Gratefully still riding and smiling....
 
 Bert Fox
 Elko, NV
 
 =====
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 BMW F650GS
 BMW R1150RT
 Kawasaki KLR650
 
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				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:33 am
				by guymanbro
				Wow, man, that's a hella story... Glad the deer and the bike took 
 most of the damage. Keep on keepin' on Bert.
 
 dat brooklyn bum
 
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bert Fox, Nevada MGNOC rep"  
 wrote:
 I had hit a deer. The
 
 > impact was on my left front center. It knocked off
 > both mirrors, broke the fairing in multiple places,
 > sheared of some valve cover mounted rider pegs, and
 > completely sheared off my left saddlebag. It also
 > impacted my left leg as it went by and then went
 > around and under the rear of the bike. It completely
 > eviscerated the stomach cavity and broke both front
 > legs. I came to a stop without going down. At the time
 > I did not know the extent of damage or what I had hit.
 > When I realized how hard the impact had been and that
 > I was upright and OK, I was nearly sick as the nervous
 > system adjusted to the new details. 
 
			 
			
					
				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:39 am
				by Jim Priest
				Obviously the lesson here is to let someone else lead 

 
 Glad you are OK!
 
 jim
 
 
 On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 12:10:34 PM, Nevada wrote:
 BFNMr> not been apparent. It was a two year old White Tailed
 BFNMr> buck. My friend, Bruce, had been a couple hundred
 BFNMr> yards behind me. We had been traveling at about 70 mph 
 
			 
			
					
				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 12:25 pm
				by monahanwb
				--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Jim Priest  wrote:
 
 > Obviously the lesson here is to let someone else lead 
 
  
Or if you must hit deer, ride a Telelever bike.  They go through deer 
 like nothing else, and seem to enable the rider to ride the bike 
 home, much like Bert did.
 
			 
			
					
				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 2:05 pm
				by bmrbill
				Ouch.  Sounds like your beemer faired better than mine did.  More 
 importantly, I'm glad you are okay.  I still have the scars from the 
 two pins that held my left thumb together (after they put it back in 
 its socket).  That was three years ago.  I drive that same stretch of 
 road every day going to and from work.  And every time I look real 
 hard...  The upside is, I only need one more deer to be an Ace.  Four 
 down, one to go.
 Bill A15
 Livermore, CA
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Bert Fox, Nevada MGNOC rep"  
 wrote:
 
 > I recently took a reunion tour with an old friend. We
 > had traveled together for ten years on our
 > motorcycles. Due to family and jobs we had not toured
 > together since 1985 or so. He had borrowed an 1983
 > Goldwing Interstate and I had just recently purchased
 > an 02 R1150RT BMW. We ventured N into Montana and up
 > into B.C. and came down thru N Idaho. On Monday, July
 > 22, we had departed our campsite at Cedar Creek
 > Campground on State Hwy 3 about 3 miles N of Clarkia,
 > ID. A few miles South of Clarkia and 3 miles N of
 > Bovill, it happened...I never saw it coming, I did not
 > even have time to apply brakes or know there was a
 > threat. I just simply exploded into something that had
 > not been apparent. It was a two year old White Tailed
 > buck. My friend, Bruce, had been a couple hundred
 > yards behind me. We had been traveling at about 70 mph
 > at 9:30 AM. He thought I had hit a brown cardboard box
 > for an instant, then he realized I had hit a deer. The
 > impact was on my left front center. It knocked off
 > both mirrors, broke the fairing in multiple places,
 > sheared of some valve cover mounted rider pegs, and
 > completely sheared off my left saddlebag. It also
 > impacted my left leg as it went by and then went
 > around and under the rear of the bike. It completely
 > eviscerated the stomach cavity and broke both front
 > legs. I came to a stop without going down. At the time
 > I did not know the extent of damage or what I had hit.
 > When I realized how hard the impact had been and that
 > I was upright and OK, I was nearly sick as the nervous
 > system adjusted to the new details. I expect the
 > damage to be at least $3000 with the fairing damage.
 > It doesn't look that bad until I itemize all the
 > pieces that are cracked, bent, broken, or scratched.
 > We collected all the pieces and drove on into Moscow,
 > ID and after filing a report with the Latah County
 > Sheriff Dept., we went to a packing/shipping store and
 > mailed all the stuff back. We adjusted our route and
 > schedule and I drove the wounded beemer home.
 > I don't know exactly what I have learned from all of
 > this. I do know it simply wasn't my time. I also had
 > on full protective riding gear, and was riding with
 > concentration and watching for the very thing that I
 > incurred. Even so, I did not see the deer come out of
 > the dark shadows or even approach the travel lane. If
 > I had braked or swerved, it may not have been a good
 > thing...
 > Gratefully still riding and smiling....
 > 
 > Bert Fox
 > Elko, NV
 > 
 > =====
 > Life is an adventure meant to be ridden on two wheels...
 > BMW F650GS
 > BMW R1150RT
 > Kawasaki KLR650
 > 
 > __________________________________________________
 > Do You Yahoo!?
 > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
 > 
http://health.yahoo.com 
 
			 
			
					
				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:23 pm
				by Allan Patton
				Bert,
 
 Glad you are still alive and able to ride. Some haven't been so fortunate.
 Guess we can all thank the "tree huggers" for the over population of deer
 everywhere. Thirty years ago, if a deer was hit by a car, it made front page
 news, including pictures, here in central Kansas. Now, there is a list of
 deer hits almost every day, even this time of year.
 
 Recently, Wisconsin has ask the deer hunters in the southwest part of the
 state to kill all the deer. Over population has caused an outbreak of a deer
 disease similar to "mad cow disease".
 
 I have a theory that the insurance companies actually like the deer, no
 mater what they say. Everyone is afraid to drop full coverage insurance on
 older cars.
 
 Allan  A14
 
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Bert Fox, Nevada MGNOC rep" 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 11:10 AM
 Subject: [DSN_klr650] Hunting Without a License (Out of Season)
 
 
 > I recently took a reunion tour with an old friend. We
 > had traveled together for ten years on our
 > motorcycles. Due to family and jobs we had not toured
 > together since 1985 or so. He had borrowed an 1983
 > Goldwing Interstate and I had just recently purchased
 > an 02 R1150RT BMW. We ventured N into Montana and up
 > into B.C. and came down thru N Idaho. On Monday, July
 > 22, we had departed our campsite at Cedar Creek
 > Campground on State Hwy 3 about 3 miles N of Clarkia,
 > ID. A few miles South of Clarkia and 3 miles N of
 > Bovill, it happened...I never saw it coming, I did not
 > even have time to apply brakes or know there was a
 > threat. I just simply exploded into something that had
 > not been apparent. It was a two year old White Tailed
 > buck. My friend, Bruce, had been a couple hundred
 > yards behind me. We had been traveling at about 70 mph
 > at 9:30 AM. He thought I had hit a brown cardboard box
 > for an instant, then he realized I had hit a deer. The
 > impact was on my left front center. It knocked off
 > both mirrors, broke the fairing in multiple places,
 > sheared of some valve cover mounted rider pegs, and
 > completely sheared off my left saddlebag. It also
 > impacted my left leg as it went by and then went
 > around and under the rear of the bike. It completely
 > eviscerated the stomach cavity and broke both front
 > legs. I came to a stop without going down. At the time
 > I did not know the extent of damage or what I had hit.
 > When I realized how hard the impact had been and that
 > I was upright and OK, I was nearly sick as the nervous
 > system adjusted to the new details. I expect the
 > damage to be at least $3000 with the fairing damage.
 > It doesn't look that bad until I itemize all the
 > pieces that are cracked, bent, broken, or scratched.
 > We collected all the pieces and drove on into Moscow,
 > ID and after filing a report with the Latah County
 > Sheriff Dept., we went to a packing/shipping store and
 > mailed all the stuff back. We adjusted our route and
 > schedule and I drove the wounded beemer home.
 > I don't know exactly what I have learned from all of
 > this. I do know it simply wasn't my time. I also had
 > on full protective riding gear, and was riding with
 > concentration and watching for the very thing that I
 > incurred. Even so, I did not see the deer come out of
 > the dark shadows or even approach the travel lane. If
 > I had braked or swerved, it may not have been a good
 > thing...
 > Gratefully still riding and smiling....
 >
 > Bert Fox
 > Elko, NV
 >
 > =====
 > Life is an adventure meant to be ridden on two wheels...
 > BMW F650GS
 > BMW R1150RT
 > Kawasaki KLR650
 >
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				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 3:42 pm
				by klrz4ever
				> Guess we can all thank the "tree huggers" for the over population 
  
of deer everywhere. 
 
 > 
 > Allan  A14
 > 
 
  
Allan, 
 
 I don't think you can hang this one on tree-huggers. They generally 
 favor preservation and/or re-introduction of predator species like 
 mountain lions and wolves, which help control the deer population. 
 For overpopulation you need to look at groups like Bambi Lovers 
 International and Fawns First. 

 
 __Arden Kysely
 
			 
			
					
				hunting without a license (out of season)
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 6:10 pm
				by sherparider
				--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Allan Patton"  wrote:
 
 > Glad you are still alive and able to ride. Some haven't been so
 > fortunate. Guess we can all thank the "tree huggers" for the over
 > population of deer everywhere.
  
  
Ah, yes.  The elusive "tree hugger," bane of all right-thinking
 people.  Seldom seen, this almost mythological beast is known to have
 far greater powers than the gun, recreational sport, and hunting
 lobbies.  When one doesn't which to blame the elimination of natural
 predators, human encroachment on wildlife lands, a ten-fold increase
 in vehicular traffic, or just plain idiot drivers who don't watch for
 hazards, one can always rely on "tree huggers" as scapegoat.
 
			 
			
					
				carb vent?
				Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 6:14 pm
				by sherparider
				--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Lujo Bauer"  wrote:
 
 > That's an interesting question.  Why the T mod?  Why not just 
 > stick on a hose that's vented somewhere else?
  
  
Or re-route the existing hose.  It's plenty long enough to reach all
 sorts of interesting up-high nooks and crannies.  Just make sure to
 put a short bend in it so that the last 2" points down, helping to
 prevent water from getting in or collecting in it.