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				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:13 pm
				by KJ
				I know we have discussed hot weather clothing before, but at what point do
 most of you decide not to use your motorcycle jacket and go with something
 lighter like a tank-top? Yesterday it was only 75 or so here in NYC and I
 saw plenty of people riding in short sleeves or dress shirts (on a BMW) I
 was wearing my JR ballistic 3.0 without the liner and was not uncomfortable
 at all. One day it hit almost 90 and then I was HOT. Just curious what
 others consider to hot to handle.
 
 Karl
 A14
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:28 pm
				by guytal1
				For long rides (including my 40 mile daily commute), I never leave home without my Aerostitch on in *any* weather.
 When running errands around town, if it's warm enough (70+), I'll wear my Joe Rocket Phoenix over a tee shirt.
 
 Guy
 KLR650 A13
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:32 pm
				by jamiedeavers
				--- In DSN_klr650@y..., KJ  wrote:
 
 > I know we have discussed hot weather clothing before, but at what 
  
point do
 
 > most of you decide not to use your motorcycle jacket and go with 
  
something
 
 > lighter like a tank-top? Yesterday it was only 75 or so here in NYC 
  
and I
 
 > saw plenty of people riding in short sleeves or dress shirts (on a 
  
BMW) I
 
 > was wearing my JR ballistic 3.0 without the liner and was not 
  
uncomfortable
 
 > at all. One day it hit almost 90 and then I was HOT. Just curious 
  
what
 
 > others consider to hot to handle.
 > 
 > Karl
 > A14
 
  
Hello Karl
 
 I do not ride on the street without protective gear period. It does 
 get hot here on the coast of VA (mostly humidity) but I feel the one 
 time I go without will be the time I eat asphalt. No matter how I 
 look at it, being hot is not as uncomfortable as a case of road-rash.
 (your opinion may vary). I don't know about your area, but here it 
 seems they hand out cage licenses to anyone who can pay the fees...I 
 try to do whatever I can to protect myself from these morons behind 
 the wheels. (even have one of those DOT worker vests, although I 
 believe increased visibility here just means it's easier for them 
 (cagers) to get you in their cross-hairs!)
 
 Expect Everything / Assume Nothing
 
 Jamie
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:37 pm
				by klrz4ever
				>Just curious what others consider to hot to handle.
 > 
 > Karl
 > A14
 
  
Karl,
 
 My rules for heat and motorcycling:
 
 1. It's never too hot to wear a jacket on the freeway.
 2. It's rarely too hot to wear a jacket (can be partially zipped) 
 around town. Compare the feeling of hot nylon to the feeling of 
 sliding on hot asphalt.
 3. It's never too hot to wear some good protection when hauling butt 
 off-road.
 4. It can be too hot to wear a jacket when you're just plonking down 
 a dirt road in the back-of-beyond (105 in Utah a couple years back). 
 A long-sleeved T-shirt is advised for sun protection, however. 
 
 I base my choices on the perceived risk of my activity. In a small 
 town with sane drivers, you can probably get away with no jacket. In 
 a big city with idiots at the wheel, I'd dress up. Once in awhile I 
 break all the rules and make a quick trip to the store in a pair of 
 shorts. My rationale for this little piece of stupidity is that I hit 
 45 mph on my bicycle wearing next to nothing, so I should be able to 
 go 40 on my motorcycle wearing just as little (but a better 
 helmet) :^D
 
 Lucky so far and knockin' on wood,
 
 __Arden Kysely
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:39 pm
				by kilrcalikawi
				Layers my friend, layers.  I always wear my phoenix jacket (for warm 
 weather), and then if it gets cold I have a snowboarding jacket (thin 
 warm + waterproof) to put over it.  The combo makes for a great 40-
 100+ degree weather riding.  
 
 Helps to have a case to store the unused stuff in.
 
 Trev
 
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., KJ  wrote:
 > I know we have discussed hot weather clothing before, but at what 
 point do
 > most of you decide not to use your motorcycle jacket and go with 
 something
 > lighter like a tank-top? Yesterday it was only 75 or so here in NYC 
 and I
 > saw plenty of people riding in short sleeves or dress shirts (on a 
 BMW) I
 > was wearing my JR ballistic 3.0 without the liner and was not 
 uncomfortable
 > at all. One day it hit almost 90 and then I was HOT. Just curious 
 what
 > others consider to hot to handle.
 > 
 > Karl
 > A14 
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 5:54 pm
				by millerized_2000
				Since I got my Tourmaster 3/4 last year I haven't ridden without it.  
 Except for the one time I thought it was too hot, and I slid into the 
 local conveinence store parking lot on my left hand, elbow and 
 shoulder.  I haven't forgotten that incident or my jacket.  Even have 
 the leather or kevlar gloves.  I remember road rash, and I'll sweat.
 millerized
 
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., KJ  wrote:
 > I know we have discussed hot weather clothing before, but at what 
 point do
 > most of you decide not to use your motorcycle jacket and go with 
 something
 > lighter like a tank-top? Yesterday it was only 75 or so here in NYC 
 and I
 > saw plenty of people riding in short sleeves or dress shirts (on a 
 BMW) I
 > was wearing my JR ballistic 3.0 without the liner and was not 
 uncomfortable
 > at all. One day it hit almost 90 and then I was HOT. Just curious 
 what
 > others consider to hot to handle.
 > 
 > Karl
 > A14 
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:00 pm
				by Tony Cornett
				I just bought a mesh FirstGear jacket $139 it has padding and flows air real
 good. I live in Bakersfield, CA and will be in the 100's this week. The
 jacket is a real good investment. I looked at Joe Rocket same price but
 shorter. Thanks TC
 
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:25 pm
				by tedfshred
				--- In DSN_klr650@y..., KJ  wrote:
 
 > I know we have discussed hot weather clothing before, but at what 
  
point do
 
 > most of you decide not to use your motorcycle jacket and go with 
  
something
 
 > lighter like a tank-top? Yesterday it was only 75 or so here in NYC 
  
and I
 
 > saw plenty of people riding in short sleeves or dress shirts (on a 
  
BMW) I
 
 > was wearing my JR ballistic 3.0 without the liner and was not 
  
uncomfortable
 
 > at all. One day it hit almost 90 and then I was HOT. Just curious 
  
what
 
 > others consider to hot to handle.
 > 
 > Karl
 > A14
 
  
Always at least a leather jacket for commuting or Roadcrafter for all 
 else. Travelled Bakeoven road at 107 degrees last summer, knew it was 
 coming so I packed the pockets with ice in John Day, OR.  100 miles 
 later still had some ice and my boys were taking a refreshing swim in 
 ice water trapped inside the suit at the seat.
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:33 pm
				by ridecaptan
				--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "kilrcalikawi"  wrote:
 
 > Layers my friend, layers.  I always wear my phoenix jacket (for 
  
warm 
 
 > weather), and then if it gets cold I have a snowboarding jacket 
  
(thin 
 
 > warm + waterproof) to put over it.  The combo makes for a great 40-
 > 100+ degree weather riding.  
 > 
 
  
My dealer has the Phoenix jackets, I'm thinking of getting one. 
 Right now I'm wearing an Ocelot enduro jacket. No padding, but 
 better than nothing. 
 
 Ed 
 A15
 
 
 
 > Helps to have a case to store the unused stuff in.
 > 
 > Trev
 > 
 > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., KJ  wrote:
 > > I know we have discussed hot weather clothing before, but at 
  
what 
 
 > point do
 > > most of you decide not to use your motorcycle jacket and go with 
 > something
 > > lighter like a tank-top? Yesterday it was only 75 or so here in 
  
NYC 
 
 > and I
 > > saw plenty of people riding in short sleeves or dress shirts (on 
  
a 
 
 > BMW) I
 > > was wearing my JR ballistic 3.0 without the liner and was not 
 > uncomfortable
 > > at all. One day it hit almost 90 and then I was HOT. Just 
  
curious 
 
 > what
 > > others consider to hot to handle.
 > > 
 > > Karl
 > > A14 
 
			 
			
					
				how hot?  nklr
				Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:01 pm
				by s2mumford
				Brosh-tex cool Kevlar
 
 
www.brosh.com
 
 Cheap and works fine.
 
 CA Stu