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Posted: **Sat May 25, 2002 7:59 pm**

High Colorado mountain *4WD passes* never clear earlier than July 1st that I remember. Sometimes not til late July in big snow years which 2002 is not. Now I am not talking the easy dirt stuff that people live on, I am talking about the old time mining roads like Mosquito, Georgia, Webster, Corona, Sheep Horn, Taylor, Hancock, Tincup, Pearl, Scholfield, Hayden, Engineer, Ophir, Cinnamon, Tomichi, Italian, Hagerman, Imogene, Black Bear, etc. Many would never clear of the deep drifts if it were not for the 4wd Clubs that have "shovel days" to open them up. If you plan on doing the above passes, and are coming from sea-level, I doubt you will need thermals cause you'll be pushing & shoveling so hard working up a sweat. With the thin air combined with your thin sea-level blood and low hemoglobin concentration maybe you should bring one of those Electro Cardio Shock thing-a-ma-giggies to revive your failing hearts! I am not kidding. Granted you may need the thermals before the work begins. Steve Green --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "millerized_2000" wrote:

> ANOTHER MONTH!!!!!!!! WTF? I'm going to be out there in less than

3

> weeks, and you better have those passes cleared out! Do you hear > me! Bloody Coloradians, IT'S ALMOST JUNE, IT'S SUMMERTIME! Gawd,

do

> us easterners have to tell you guys everything!!! > Looking forward to hitting a bunch of passes the weekend of the > 15th. My brother living in Morrison, and a bunch of others are > heading south, about 1000mi in 3 or 4 days. All mountain passes.

I

> should pack my thermals?? > millerized > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "esteban80127" wrote: > > RM, > > > > Things are great. Riding season is coming into full Rocky

Mountain

> > swing, we had 18" of snow in the mountains last nite, 2" in my

yard

> > in Littleton, 5000 acre fire in Deckers hopefully out now. Snow > makes > > In another month the high passes will start to open up and the > > real adventure DS stuff begins. > > > > Steve > >

Posted: **Mon May 27, 2002 11:43 am**

I was just kiddin'! I've got no problem riding in snow, and being born and raised in PA, temperature is no problem. Just have to stop more often. I'll be riding with a pack of all street bikes, a Blackbird, a GS11 or 2, a V45Magna, maybe something else and my KLR. They're not going to get themselves dirty, I've been warned about that up front. If I decide to do any "dirt", I'm on my own. Mostly what were riding is 285 from denver to Buena Vista, and points south. Most of the riding is below 10K, so I don't think it's going to be a problem. Anyway, if you can recommend a few good dirt/offroad locations, I'm thinking about spending another few days in that area before heading west. Altitude doesn't seem tp make much difference to me either. In 94, I went from Maryland (700') to Mt Borah in Idaho (12,500')in 3 days. I was a bit winded, but it didn't kill me. Not yet, anyway. Thanks Jim Miller millerized

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "esteban80127" wrote: > High Colorado mountain *4WD passes* never clear earlier than July 1st > that I remember. Sometimes not til late July in big snow years which > 2002 is not. > > Now I am not talking the easy dirt stuff that people live on, I am > talking about the old time mining roads like Mosquito, Georgia, > Webster, Corona, Sheep Horn, Taylor, Hancock, Tincup, Pearl, > Scholfield, Hayden, Engineer, Ophir, Cinnamon, Tomichi, Italian, > Hagerman, Imogene, Black Bear, etc. Many would never clear of the > deep drifts if it were not for the 4wd Clubs that have "shovel days" > to open them up. > > If you plan on doing the above passes, and are coming from sea- level, > I doubt you will need thermals cause you'll be pushing & shoveling so > hard working up a sweat. With the thin air combined with your thin > sea-level blood and low hemoglobin concentration maybe you should > bring one of those Electro Cardio Shock thing-a-ma-giggies to revive > your failing hearts! > > I am not kidding. > > Granted you may need the thermals before the work begins. > > Steve Green> yard > > > in Littleton, 5000 acre fire in Deckers hopefully out now. Snow > > makes > > > > In another month the high passes will start to open up and the > > > real adventure DS stuff begins. > > > > > > Steve > > >

Posted: **Mon May 27, 2002 3:31 pm**

Jim, I was not kidding though. The high 12,000+ 4wd Passes are drifted normally til July. Even if you "can" ride in snow, you can't ride in those drifts guaranteed. Way to deep, steep, and long. Walk yes. For a good dirt ride that is low in elevation and south of Buena Vista go to Saguache and west on 114 to Cochetopa Pass, then go on down KK-14 Rd and FR 788 over Los Pinos Pass past the Cebolla Creek. (This area is suposedly the secret resting place of Chief Ouray, and was home to the last US Government Indian Agency in the wild west.) Continue on up FR 788 to Slumgullion Pass and on down to lake City to remeet you streetbike buds. This is and easy low altitude remote ride that will be free of snow early season. This is a long ride so have 100 miles of gas. I have done it on my R100RS 2up. Not difficult and very beautiful in places. Or you could try Marshall Pass south of Poncha Springs which is an old RR grade and very mellow (easy). Get yourself the Gazeteer by Delorme. Steve G --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "millerized_2000" wrote:

> I was just kiddin'! I've got no problem riding in snow, and being > born and raised in PA, temperature is no problem. Just have to

stop

> more often. I'll be riding with a pack of all street bikes, a > Blackbird, a GS11 or 2, a V45Magna, maybe something else and my

KLR.

> They're not going to get themselves dirty, I've been warned about > that up front. If I decide to do any "dirt", I'm on my own.

Mostly

> what were riding is 285 from denver to Buena Vista, and points > south. Most of the riding is below 10K, so I don't think it's

going

> to be a problem. Anyway, if you can recommend a few good > dirt/offroad locations, I'm thinking about spending another few

days

> in that area before heading west. Altitude doesn't seem tp make

much

> difference to me either. In 94, I went from Maryland (700') to Mt > Borah in Idaho (12,500')in 3 days. I was a bit winded, but it

didn't

> kill me. Not yet, anyway. > Thanks > Jim Miller > millerized > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "esteban80127" wrote: > > High Colorado mountain *4WD passes* never clear earlier than July > 1st > > that I remember. Sometimes not til late July in big snow years > which > > 2002 is not. > > > > Now I am not talking the easy dirt stuff that people live on, I

am

> > talking about the old time mining roads like Mosquito, Georgia, > > Webster, Corona, Sheep Horn, Taylor, Hancock, Tincup, Pearl, > > Scholfield, Hayden, Engineer, Ophir, Cinnamon, Tomichi, Italian, > > Hagerman, Imogene, Black Bear, etc. Many would never clear of the > > deep drifts if it were not for the 4wd Clubs that have "shovel > days" > > to open them up. > > > > If you plan on doing the above passes, and are coming from sea- > level, > > I doubt you will need thermals cause you'll be pushing &

shoveling

> so > > hard working up a sweat. With the thin air combined with your

thin

> > sea-level blood and low hemoglobin concentration maybe you should > > bring one of those Electro Cardio Shock thing-a-ma-giggies to > revive > > your failing hearts! > > > > I am not kidding. > > > > Granted you may need the thermals before the work begins. > > > > Steve Green> yard > > > > in Littleton, 5000 acre fire in Deckers hopefully out now.

Snow

> > > makes > > > > > > In another month the high passes will start to open up and the > > > > real adventure DS stuff begins. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > >

Posted: **Tue May 28, 2002 9:08 am**

A buddy and I attempted Haggerman pass outside of Leadville this weekend. We made it over/around several snow fields, but had to turn back at 11,750 ft. It will be a while before it is passable. Ron

>From: "millerized_2000" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: When Colorado 4wd Passes open >Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 16:43:20 -0000 > >I was just kiddin'! I've got no problem riding in snow, and being >born and raised in PA, temperature is no problem. Just have to stop >more often. I'll be riding with a pack of all street bikes, a >Blackbird, a GS11 or 2, a V45Magna, maybe something else and my KLR. >They're not going to get themselves dirty, I've been warned about >that up front. If I decide to do any "dirt", I'm on my own. Mostly >what were riding is 285 from denver to Buena Vista, and points >south. Most of the riding is below 10K, so I don't think it's going >to be a problem. Anyway, if you can recommend a few good >dirt/offroad locations, I'm thinking about spending another few days >in that area before heading west. Altitude doesn't seem tp make much >difference to me either. In 94, I went from Maryland (700') to Mt >Borah in Idaho (12,500')in 3 days. I was a bit winded, but it didn't >kill me. Not yet, anyway. >Thanks >Jim Miller >millerized > > >--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "esteban80127" wrote: > > High Colorado mountain *4WD passes* never clear earlier than July >1st > > that I remember. Sometimes not til late July in big snow years >which > > 2002 is not. > > > > Now I am not talking the easy dirt stuff that people live on, I am > > talking about the old time mining roads like Mosquito, Georgia, > > Webster, Corona, Sheep Horn, Taylor, Hancock, Tincup, Pearl, > > Scholfield, Hayden, Engineer, Ophir, Cinnamon, Tomichi, Italian, > > Hagerman, Imogene, Black Bear, etc. Many would never clear of the > > deep drifts if it were not for the 4wd Clubs that have "shovel >days" > > to open them up. > > > > If you plan on doing the above passes, and are coming from sea- >level, > > I doubt you will need thermals cause you'll be pushing & shoveling >so > > hard working up a sweat. With the thin air combined with your thin > > sea-level blood and low hemoglobin concentration maybe you should > > bring one of those Electro Cardio Shock thing-a-ma-giggies to >revive > > your failing hearts! > > > > I am not kidding. > > > > Granted you may need the thermals before the work begins. > > > > Steve Green> yard > > > > in Littleton, 5000 acre fire in Deckers hopefully out now. Snow > > > makes > > > > > > In another month the high passes will start to open up and the > > > > real adventure DS stuff begins. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Posted: **Tue May 28, 2002 10:15 pm**

Sorry, the lasal prerun will be postponed until Thursday. Stay tuned... 8^) -----Original Message----- Doc Pete is prerunning the Lasal Loop ride tomorrow. I hear all the passes are free of snow now. Pete will let me know how his ride went tomorrow. --------------

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