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'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Fri May 10, 2002 3:52 pm
by princek1
I just purchased a '95 KLR650 with 11,100 miles on it. The bike
looks brand new, and has never been in anything rougher than gravel,
appearantly. PO bought it from the original owner with 1300 miles on
it in '99.
Any, it came with a set of Avon Gripsters front and rear, less than
1000 miles on them. At highway speeds, once over 45mph, the
slightest corrections on the bars start a minor headshake. At 70mph,
the slightest correction on the bars starts a serious headshake, that
wants to turn into a tank slapper. Takes about 200 yards or so to
calm her back down. I just checked the steering head bearings, they
look good and are tight. Tires are at their proper pressure, not
cupped, and look like they only have 1000 miles on em..
..
Any suggestions? If it's gonna handle like this, back in the paper
it's gonna go!
-Jeff Cranfill
http://www.venturers.org
'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Fri May 10, 2002 4:00 pm
by mnron2002
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "princek1" wrote:
> I just purchased a '95 KLR650 with 11,100 miles on it. The bike
> looks brand new, and has never been in anything rougher than
gravel,
> appearantly. PO bought it from the original owner with 1300 miles
on
> it in '99.
>
> Any, it came with a set of Avon Gripsters front and rear, less than
> 1000 miles on them. At highway speeds, once over 45mph, the
> slightest corrections on the bars start a minor headshake. At
70mph,
> the slightest correction on the bars starts a serious headshake,
that
> wants to turn into a tank slapper. Takes about 200 yards or so to
> calm her back down. I just checked the steering head bearings,
they
> look good and are tight. Tires are at their proper pressure, not
> cupped, and look like they only have 1000 miles on em..
..
>
> Any suggestions? If it's gonna handle like this, back in the paper
> it's gonna go!
>
> -Jeff Cranfill
>
http://www.venturers.org
If you have the capabilities, check for wheel alignment. Also, wheel
bearings, tires balanced and installed correctly, swingarm play, fork
twist; you know, the simple stuff. Wonder if someone didn't "dump" a
bent bike? I've had two, and they've both been pretty darned stable.
Good luck.
MNRon
'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Fri May 10, 2002 4:09 pm
by Peter Dahlheimer, MD
Tire balance?
Height of the forks in the triple clamps? (mine did this with
gripsters, and unbalanced tires, when i lowered the forks in the triple
clamps so they were flush at the top. Moving them up so that about
2.5cm of fork was showing at the top fixed the problem again.
_pete
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Subject: [DSN_klr650] '95 KLR650 - Highway manners
I just purchased a '95 KLR650 with 11,100 miles on it. The bike
looks brand new, and has never been in anything rougher than gravel,
appearantly. PO bought it from the original owner with 1300 miles on
it in '99.
Any, it came with a set of Avon Gripsters front and rear, less than
1000 miles on them. At highway speeds, once over 45mph, the
slightest corrections on the bars start a minor headshake. At 70mph,
the slightest correction on the bars starts a serious headshake, that
wants to turn into a tank slapper. Takes about 200 yards or so to
calm her back down. I just checked the steering head bearings, they
look good and are tight. Tires are at their proper pressure, not
cupped, and look like they only have 1000 miles on em..
..
Any suggestions? If it's gonna handle like this, back in the paper
it's gonna go!
-Jeff Cranfill
http://www.venturers.org
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'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Fri May 10, 2002 4:13 pm
by monahanwb
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "princek1" wrote:
> I just purchased a '95 KLR650 with 11,100 miles on it. At highway
speeds, once over 45mph, the
> slightest corrections on the bars start a minor headshake. At
70mph,
> the slightest correction on the bars starts a serious headshake,
that
> wants to turn into a tank slapper.
- check the torque of the axle nuts, especially the front. About 60
lbs on each, I think, which is plenty, you'll need to use two arms.
Front must be TighT. if the front is loose no telling what the bike
will do, but it won't handle right. if the rear is loose it may not
handle right either. also -
- check the alignment of the rear wheel. It would have to be quite a
bit out of alignment to cause odd behavior.
- check fork tubes for straightness, and that the tubes themselves
are not pulled up past the top clamps more than a quarter inch or so.
- inspect the weak KLR triple clamps for cracks.
And some not so obvious things like - are the tires mounted
correctly, bead evenly seated? Correct direction? Wheel bearings
good? They should rotate totally smoothly. This sounds like
something a loose rear wheel bearing could cause, signaling impending
failure.
'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Fri May 10, 2002 7:25 pm
by Tony Cornett
Check your steering head bearings make sure the are tight. TC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Lesnowich"
To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>; "princek1"
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] '95 KLR650 - Highway manners
> > I just purchased a '95 KLR650 with 11,100 miles on it. The bike
> > looks brand new, and has never been in anything rougher than gravel,
> > appearantly. PO bought it from the original owner with 1300 miles on
> > it in '99.
> >
> > Any, it came with a set of Avon Gripsters front and rear, less than
> > 1000 miles on them. At highway speeds, once over 45mph, the
> > slightest corrections on the bars start a minor headshake. At 70mph,
> > the slightest correction on the bars starts a serious headshake, that
> > wants to turn into a tank slapper. Takes about 200 yards or so to
> > calm her back down. I just checked the steering head bearings, they
> > look good and are tight. Tires are at their proper pressure, not
> > cupped, and look like they only have 1000 miles on em..
..
> >
> > Any suggestions? If it's gonna handle like this, back in the paper
> > it's gonna go!
> >
> > -Jeff Cranfill
> >
http://www.venturers.org
> >
>
> Make sure you have proper tire pressure. 32psi F&R should
> work with Gripsters. Also check that the front forks are all the
> way up in the triple clamps. They should be flush with just the
> cap sticking out. If either of these aren't it you may have too much
> preload set on the rear spring. Lower it a notch or two. This should
> do it. Finally a good fork brace will give more control if you are
willing
> to make the investment. The K9 works great and now is down to $150.
>
> Don't give up until you have exhausted all the remedies or you may
> never know the fun you will miss even if your bike does look like a
> Barbie and Ken model.
>
> Walt
> A14 "War Horse"
>
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'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Fri May 10, 2002 9:02 pm
by Guest
Jeff,
Worn swing arm bearings will cause this behavior.
Harvey
A15
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "princek1" wrote:
At highway speeds, once over 45mph, the
> slightest corrections on the bars start a minor headshake. At
70mph,
> the slightest correction on the bars starts a serious headshake,
that
> wants to turn into a tank slapper. Takes about 200 yards or so to
> calm her back down. I just checked the steering head bearings,
they
> look good and are tight. Tires are at their proper pressure, not
> cupped, and look like they only have 1000 miles on em..
..
>
> Any suggestions? If it's gonna handle like this, back in the paper
> it's gonna go!
>
> -Jeff Cranfill
>
http://www.venturers.org
tweety is gone...good riddance!
Posted: Mon May 13, 2002 9:59 am
by dooden
Could that be the preforated metal forming that tube on the end ?
Duden
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "hens_p" wrote:
> There is some type of fabric/material in there. I can see a small
> hunk of it on my '01.
>
> Pat
>
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Jim Ousley" wrote:
> > There is NO fiberglass packing in a KLR muffler.
> > There is NO packing of any kind in a KLR muffler.
> >
> > Just thought you would like to know.
> >
> > Jim
> > Lexington Ky
'95 klr650 - highway manners
Posted: Mon May 13, 2002 10:12 am
by Motorcycle_Dan
> Make sure you have proper tire pressure.
Good, I agree
> Also check that the front forks are all the way up
> you may have too much preload set on the rear spring
Here it may be out but my experience is the twitchy front end needs
more weight in the front. Dropping the front end (forks sticking out
the top of the tripple clamp more) will put more weight on the front
tire and should correct it. Especially true if the rear has lowering
links and the front at the top. Everything else as others have
posted. Balance, wheel and steering head bearings. Don't overlook
the rear wheel. It can make it feel like the front end is not right.
Dan /|\