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At 8:29 AM -0500 2/13/02, Brent Bacon wrote:

>I am getting set up to change my tires. What I need to know is what do I >need in the line of tools. What's a necessity and what's nice to have? >

Two 8" irons, that's all. Mark B2 A2 A3

> What about tools to break the chain and put it back together. Don't

worry

> about being elementary, I have never change a bike tire before. I have

the Although I opted for a dealer installation, I've done it in the past, and watched the dealer do it this time. If you have the stock chain, and wish to continue using it AS IS, you'll have to remove the swingarm to get the chain off in one piece. If you don't have chain tools, I think either Fred, http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html or Jake, http://www.sagebrushmachine.com/ had a nice tool kit that had all the stuff you'd need. You'll also need a way to break the bead, and if you don't have the "official" bead-breaker tool, I believe a good sized C clamp would do the job nicely. Or, you can jump up and down on the tire, drive over it, or whatever. *I* would go with the clamp... The longer the tire irons, the better. Tire Spoons might be the best choice. 2 minimum, but - depending on your methods - 3 or more would be ideal. The dealer mechanic used their fancy machinery to get everything done, but said that when he does it by hand, he uses a BUNCH of irons, and works them around the rim. He claims 6 minute tire changes are possible with that procedure. (?) You'll want to talc the tube, and inside of the tire, and give the tube just a breath or two of air to help with the installation. Fred sells heavy duty Moose tubes for the front, and good quality Metzler for the rear. (Other brands too, probably. These were my choices.) Alternatively, RM just posted, "...I'm also happy to report that liberally coating the tube and inside of the tire with Armor-All reduces abrasion damage to zero." You can also get rim protectors, if you want, that stick onto the rim under the iron to protect the rim from damage. I hope that helps, Mark Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 Also: KLR6500@... HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

> Two 8" irons, that's all. > Mark

Must need some tools for the chain or doesn't come off? brent

At 9:19 AM -0500 2/13/02, Brent Bacon wrote:

> > Two 8" irons, that's all. >> Mark >Must need some tools for the chain or doesn't come off? >brent

The chain only comes off if you're changing the chain itself. Mark

> watched the dealer do it this time. If you have the stock chain, and

wish

> to continue using it AS IS, you'll have to remove the swingarm to get

the

> chain off in one piece. If you don't have chain tools, I think either > Fred, http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html or Jake, > http://www.sagebrushmachine.com/ had a nice tool kit that had all the > stuff you'd need.

But, you don't have to fool with the chain just for a tire change... I don't know what I was thinking. Well, I guess I WASN'T thinking, truth be told... Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 Also: KLR6500@... HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

The only dedicated tire tools you need are 4 8" tire irons. You actually need two, you want to have three, and the fourth is for when you drop one of the three- so you don't have to stop and pick it up. The only bead breaker I have needed is my feet, at least for tube-type tires. A bunch of rags, or old towels are nice because when you take off the wheel, the spacers and sprocket carrier just fall away (they're held in place by the axle). Covering the exposed bearings with rags keeps dirt and grease away from each other. Devon A15 Brent Bacon wrote:

> > I am getting set up to change my tires. What I need to know is what do I > need in the line of tools. What's a necessity and what's nice to have? > What about tools to break the chain and put it back together. Don't worry > about being elementary, I have never change a bike tire before. I have the > tire changer from Harbor Freight (it sounds like I don't really need it... > too late). I don't expect the tire changer will do it all for me, do I need > a couple of tire irons anyways? I am looking in the J.C. Whitney catalogue, > any problems with their products? I see a thing called a "tire bead stop". > this looks pretty handy, knowing what I do from changing implement tires and > car and truck tires on the farm. I like the C-clamp idea that I read about > in another tire changing thread. > brent > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:42:48AM -0500, Tengai650 wrote:

> At 8:29 AM -0500 2/13/02, Brent Bacon wrote: > >I am getting set up to change my tires. What I need to know is what do I > >need in the line of tools. What's a necessity and what's nice to have? > > > > Two 8" irons, that's all.

Three 8" irons are useful. I'd like to have a couple purpose-built plastic rim protectors but have used the non-expanded cardboard from shoe boxes between my rim and irons. The sidestand and another motorcycle work pretty good as a bead breaker if you are having getting the bead loose on the rim with your foot. Loosen the rear axle, push the wheel forward and you should be able to slip the chain off the rear sprocket. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brent Bacon" wrote:

> I am getting set up to change my tires. What I need to know is

what do I

> need in the line of tools. What's a necessity and what's nice to

have?

> What about tools to break the chain and put it back together.

Don't worry

> about being elementary, I have never change a bike tire before. I

have the

> tire changer from Harbor Freight (it sounds like I don't really

need it...

> too late). I don't expect the tire changer will do it all for me,

do I need

> a couple of tire irons anyways? I am looking in the J.C. Whitney

catalogue,

> any problems with their products? I see a thing called a "tire

bead stop".

> this looks pretty handy, knowing what I do from changing implement

tires and

> car and truck tires on the farm. I like the C-clamp idea that I

read about

> in another tire changing thread. > brent

I use the 8 inch irons from Dennis Kirk, my foot, and a rubber mallet. A little brute strength never hurts either.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "tmt7734" wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Brent Bacon" wrote: > > I am getting set up to change my tires. What I need to know is > what do I > > need in the line of tools. What's a necessity and what's nice to > have? > > What about tools to break the chain and put it back together. > Don't worry > > about being elementary, I have never change a bike tire before.

I

> have the > > tire changer from Harbor Freight (it sounds like I don't really > need it... > > too late). I don't expect the tire changer will do it all for

me,

> do I need > > a couple of tire irons anyways? I am looking in the J.C. Whitney > catalogue, > > any problems with their products? I see a thing called a "tire > bead stop". > > this looks pretty handy, knowing what I do from changing

implement

> tires and > > car and truck tires on the farm. I like the C-clamp idea that I > read about > > in another tire changing thread. > > brent > > I use the 8 inch irons from Dennis Kirk, my foot, and a rubber > mallet. A little brute strength never hurts either.

brute strength, I think most of they guys on here are over 40, with bad backs, they talk about not being able to get the back end of the bike up in the air to put it on a stand, heck if my truck wasn't so high up in the air I could pick up the KLR and put it in the bed! Buncha old farts (just kidding) Trev (as allways all in good fun