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>Class M license. Sunday I drove over to the course they have laid out >next to drivers license beureau (just to practice) and man is that >thing small. I don't know how you could get anything much larger than a >250cc around that course. Is there anything I can do to make the bike a >little easier to handle in a confined area.

> just my two cents here--and I'll preface this by > saying nothing > personal and no offense-- > > If a person can't ride that course cold on a > particular bike, a > person has no business riding riding that bike on > the street. > > I'm not saying it shouldn't be challenging--it's > supposed to be. > I'm also not saying it presents a rider with an > adequate test of > every kind of skill they'll need to use in street > riding. But it does > test some useful skills. > > American's have it pretty darn easy when it comes to > getting > licensed to pilot vehicles over the roadways, and it > shows > anytime you ride, walk, drive, crawl down the > streets. I'm an > American, and a victim of bad driver education. > > I've lived in places where it's worse and places > where it's better. I > like the road situation more in countries where they > give a dang > what people know/can do behind the wheel. > > Again, I'll emphasize that this is not a personal > attack, and I'm > not trolling for flames. It's just a personal hot > button, as they say. > Off soap box mode now. > > Cheers > Scott Squire >

>On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 mighty_oak1@... wrote: > > >Class M license. Sunday I drove over to the course they have laid out > >next to drivers license beureau (just to practice) and man is that > >thing small. I don't know how you could get anything much larger than a > >250cc around that course. Is there anything I can do to make the bike a > >little easier to handle in a confined area. > > >I'd recommend you practice riding as slowly as you can, before the test. >Get someone to walk beside you and see if you can ride SLOWER than them by >using a combination of throttle, clutch and front brake. Once you've >mastered this the test will be a piece of cake.

> Scott, > > I appreciate your comments, but I let my brother > (who > has been riding motorcycles since he was 17 (22 > years > ago)) try the course it on my KLR and he couldn't > even > do the slalom the first time.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., John Irvine wrote: What other practice > routines are there out there? I sometimes enjoy seeing how far I can roll the bike backwards down a slight incline without putting down a foot. Usually, not very far. But it's still fun.

> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., John Irvine > wrote: > What other practice > > routines are there out there? > > I sometimes enjoy seeing how far I can roll the bike > backwards down a > slight incline without putting down a foot. > Usually, not very far. > But it's still fun. > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Morris To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com ;scott_squire@... Sent: 11/12/01 8:58:41 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] NKLR Motorcycle License Scott, I appreciate your comments, but I let my brother (who has been riding motorcycles since he was 17 (22 years ago)) try the course it on my KLR and he couldn't even do the slalom the first time. Let me tell you, he's a very competent rider. He's ridden thousands of miles on everything from screaming dirt bikes to the Valkirie (spelling?) and currently rides a Vmax. So in theory your comments sound great, but reality they are not applicable. The KLR is a top heavy bike that is very hard to ride slowly. I was just asking for riding tips on a tight course. I assure you that I am a very safe operator of all motor vehicles. I haven't had a ticket of any kind in 20 years (I'm 37), and I am astutely aware of what's going on around me at all times. As far as what other countries regulations are...(i won't say it). No offense Brad --- scott_squire@... wrote: just my two cents here--and I'll preface this by saying nothing personal and no offense-- If a person can't ride that course cold on a particular bike, a person has no business riding riding that bike on the street. I'm not saying it shouldn't be challenging--it's supposed to be. I'm also not saying it presents a rider with an adequate test of every kind of skill they'll need to use in street riding. But it does test some useful skills. American's have it pretty darn easy when it comes to getting licensed to pilot vehicles over the roadways, and it shows anytime you ride, walk, drive, crawl down the streets. I'm an American, and a victim of bad driver education. I've lived in places where it's worse and places where it's better. I like the road situation more in countries where they give a dang what people know/can do behind the wheel. Again, I'll emphasize that this is not a personal attack, and I'm not trolling for flames. It's just a personal hot button, as they say. Off soap box mode now. Cheers Scott Squire __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ rennrivers@... A15 (Rocinante) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Morris To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com ;scott_squire@... Sent: 11/12/01 8:58:41 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] NKLR Motorcycle License Scott, I appreciate your comments, but I let my brother (who has been riding motorcycles since he was 17 (22 years ago)) try the course it on my KLR and he couldn't even do the slalom the first time. Let me tell you, he's a very competent rider. He's ridden thousands of miles on everything from screaming dirt bikes to the Valkirie (spelling?) and currently rides a Vmax. So in theory your comments sound great, but reality they are not applicable. The KLR is a top heavy bike that is very hard to ride slowly. I was just asking for riding tips on a tight course. I assure you that I am a very safe operator of all motor vehicles. I haven't had a ticket of any kind in 20 years (I'm 37), and I am astutely aware of what's going on around me at all times. As far as what other countries regulations are...(i won't say it). No offense Brad --- scott_squire@... wrote: just my two cents here--and I'll preface this by saying nothing personal and no offense-- If a person can't ride that course cold on a particular bike, a person has no business riding riding that bike on the street. I'm not saying it shouldn't be challenging--it's supposed to be. I'm also not saying it presents a rider with an adequate test of every kind of skill they'll need to use in street riding. But it does test some useful skills. American's have it pretty darn easy when it comes to getting licensed to pilot vehicles over the roadways, and it shows anytime you ride, walk, drive, crawl down the streets. I'm an American, and a victim of bad driver education. I've lived in places where it's worse and places where it's better. I like the road situation more in countries where they give a dang what people know/can do behind the wheel. Again, I'll emphasize that this is not a personal attack, and I'm not trolling for flames. It's just a personal hot button, as they say. Off soap box mode now. Cheers Scott Squire __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ rennrivers@... A15 (Rocinante) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Checkout Dual Sport News at http://www.dualsportnews.com Be part of the Adventure! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> Guys and Gals, > OK ... I've been lurking around here for a while. Little fuel as > possible? What are you talking about? The KLR is a heavy bike.