Wilsons Sandbox

I would not bother upgrading the stator part of the alternator for higher output. Actually, I would like to see someone give the aftermarket another shot to see if it has improved as claimed - but I am no longer interested being a manufacturer's field tester. The stock stator has all the poles wire-wound, the aftermarket does not, so it is hard to believe that there is extra energy being generated. The stock alternator will run a vest OR grips at freeway RPMs without problems assuming you are running stock wattage headlight. Heated grips use about 45 watts and the no-sleeve vests are in the same ballpark. As for the foil grips, I would only wire the high output through a relay. The low setting comsumes the same electrical output and it adds a failure point that isn't needed. When your hands are cold you want max heat and these foils typically do OK in moderately cold temps but struggle in colder temps. -svt-

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Joseph Labate Wrote: I'm planning on installing heated grips (the coil type that wrap around the bar) on my KLR and need some advice on how to wire them. I understand I need to use a relay. Also, what's the latest thinking on upgrading the output of the alternator? Should I do it or can I run the heated grips and a electric vest with the OEM? If I need to upgrade, what is the best way to go?

Steve wrote As for the

> foil grips, I would only wire the high output through a relay. The low > setting comsumes the same electrical output and it adds a failure point

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> isn't needed. When your hands are cold you want max heat and these foils > typically do OK in moderately cold temps but struggle in colder temps. > -svt- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >

There might be different types of foil heaters out there. The ones I have have two indentical circuits in each grip, you just run one or both for low/high heat. I recommend using a relay to switch a separate fused line direct from the battery, and having a switch to be able to have the high / low. High is good for warming up fast, but I find I need to be able to switch to low, it heats up the gel grips too much and they get too hot, regardless of ambient temp, if you can believe that. A vest is great...if that's all you're running, you should be fine with the stock charging system. Rich

The brand name I have escapes me, but they sold for around $20-25. These foils have a ceramic resistor in-line for the low setting. -svt-

>> >There might be different types of foil heaters out there. The ones I have >have two indentical circuits in each grip, you just run one or both for >low/high heat. I recommend using a relay to switch a separate fused line >direct from the battery, and having a switch to be able to have the high / >low. High is good for warming up fast, but I find I need to be able to >switch to low, it heats up the gel grips too much and they get too hot, >regardless of ambient temp, if you can believe that. A vest is great...if >that's all you're running, you should be fine with the stock charging >system. >

The grip heater grids are something like Kimpex? Fred can order them from Parts Unlimited. Baja Designs also sells them at www.bajadesigns.com. They are often listed under ATV acc, but I have used them on various motorcycles with excellent results. Usually under $40 with a new set of grips. The ODI or ATI dualsport grips work well as did some Scott grips. Bert Fox --- Steven van Twuyver wrote:

> The brand name I have escapes me, but they sold for > around $20-25. These > foils have a ceramic resistor in-line for the low > setting. > -svt- > > >> > >There might be different types of foil heaters out > there. The ones I have > >have two indentical circuits in each grip, you just > run one or both for > >low/high heat. I recommend using a relay to switch > a separate fused line > >direct from the battery, and having a switch to be > able to have the high / > >low. High is good for warming up fast, but I find > I need to be able to > >switch to low, it heats up the gel grips too much > and they get too hot, > >regardless of ambient temp, if you can believe > that. A vest is great...if > >that's all you're running, you should be fine with > the stock charging > >system. > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at > http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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yes. i've been using a combo of elec gloves/chaps/vest for years without any major problems. just don't sit at idle for a long time with them on and then turn the bike off and expect to start it with the starter 8^)...

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gerry Exmann [mailto:gexmann@...] > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 2:26 PM > To: KLR GROUP > Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR electrics > > > Hi All > > I have just recently purchased a 95 KLR650 and would like to add heated > grips and a electric vest outlet. Will the KLR alternator support these > additional loads? > > Gerry Exmann > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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Conditionally yes. I suggest that you get wave form choppers controllers (not resistors) so you can draw as little power as necessary when running at less than full heat. I got the optional Aerostitch wave chopper as a controller with my Aerostitch electric vest. If I get Hot Grips I will get their controller as well or get another Aerostitch controller. -- Marc, Kawasaki KLR650 A12, Loveland, Colorado, USA ----Original Message-----

>From: Gerry Exmann >To: KLR GROUP DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR electrics >Date: Saturday, October 13, 2001 14:25 > >Hi All > >I have just recently purchased a 95 KLR650 and would like to add heated >grips and a electric vest outlet. Will the KLR alternator support these >additional loads? > >Gerry Exmann >

Have been using the Gerbing gloves, full sleeved jacket and socks for the last two winters... never had a problem. yes I turn the rocker switch off at low rpm situations. The clothing does not get as warm as when used on on the Concours. The Professor, Jim, and I tested it and at low rpm and then taking a load on the battery at idle with clothing on, then reving engine to 2500 rpm, the battery would come back to 13.2 volts.. Ok that is a minimum but .. hey it works and taking the KLR from OR down the coast to San Jose last Dec.. it ran fine started fine, I wuz warm,, nice trip too! Dan P Graham WA

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Gerry Exmann wrote: > Hi All > > I have just recently purchased a 95 KLR650 and would like to add heated > grips and a electric vest outlet. Will the KLR alternator support these > additional loads? > > Gerry Exmann