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add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:54 pm
by dalberts@claypark.com
It looks like the entire kick starter system from the klr600's can be applied to a 2001 klr 650? Anyone tried it successfully? Also it looks like the genorator covers from the 600 can replace the 650's as well for eclectric starter motor reoval? Anyone? Thanks- Dave.
add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 5:58 pm
by Richard Ohnstad
Dave,
Retrofitting a starter is only possible on pre-'96 with the old "crappy"
clutch basket that has a gear attached to the back of the clutch basket.
This gear is required to interface with the kickstarting mechanism. The
newer clutch baskets have an as-cast hub in the same location as the gear on
the older baskets. I retrofitted a new style clutch basket to my '94, and
one of things I gave up when I did that was the ability to ever add a
kickstarter, if I wanted to.
Richard in Tucson
94 KLR650
86 VFR750
> It looks like the entire kick starter system from the klr600's can be
applied to a 2001 klr 650? Anyone tried it successfully? Also it looks
like the genorator covers from the 600 can replace the 650's as well for
eclectric starter motor reoval? Anyone? Thanks- Dave.
add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:35 am
by michiganmosers@aol.com
You aren't missing much!! I added the kickstarter to my 1993 A7
thinking it could be a lifesaver if I was stuck in the woods with a
dead battery. I am 5'10" and 175 lbs and have never been able to
kick over this bike enough to even get it to 'pop' much less start.
I think you need to be at least 6' 2 and 250 lbs to reliably kick
start this beast. I even have a centerstand now and still can't jump
down on the kickstarter hard enough to start it up. Needless to say,
now I am a fanatic about keeping the battery maintained and charged
properly.
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Richard Ohnstad" wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Retrofitting a starter is only possible on pre-'96 with the
old "crappy"
> clutch basket that has a gear attached to the back of the clutch
basket.
> This gear is required to interface with the kickstarting
mechanism. The
> newer clutch baskets have an as-cast hub in the same location as
the gear on
> the older baskets. I retrofitted a new style clutch basket to
my '94, and
> one of things I gave up when I did that was the ability to ever add
a
> kickstarter, if I wanted to.
>
> Richard in Tucson
> 94 KLR650
> 86 VFR750
>
> > It looks like the entire kick starter system from the klr600's
can be
> applied to a 2001 klr 650? Anyone tried it successfully? Also it
looks
> like the genorator covers from the 600 can replace the 650's as
well for
> eclectric starter motor reoval? Anyone? Thanks- Dave.
add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 10:44 am
by Zachariah Mully
You wanna sell the adapter? I am sure my 235lbs might be able to
kick it over and it would impress all the girls around here
A question for any other city riders: Do you find that you get a
lot of respect and attention from the African-American community when
you're riding your KLR? I live in SE DC and wherever I ride, every kid
that sees me and wants me to wheelie, some come up and grab the throttle
and try and rev the bike while I am at a stop light. This never happened
on my equally bad looking Concours... Strange thing is I feel safer riding
in the marginal neighborhoods when I am on my KLR because I feel visible
(I know that may sound like it contradicts general street safety, but all
the attention that I get is respectful attention, people come up and want
to know about the bike, what it's like, who I am, if I'll go riding with
them, etc. etc.)...
I just find it odd. I know if I was on a sport bike, I would fear
it being stolen, but with the KLR, I will go into a store, do my shopping,
and when I come out, I have people waiting to talk to me. Much better
theft protection that being invisible!
Z
On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 michiganmosers@... wrote:
> You aren't missing much!! I added the kickstarter to my 1993 A7
> thinking it could be a lifesaver if I was stuck in the woods with a
> dead battery. I am 5'10" and 175 lbs and have never been able to
> kick over this bike enough to even get it to 'pop' much less start.
> I think you need to be at least 6' 2 and 250 lbs to reliably kick
> start this beast. I even have a centerstand now and still can't jump
> down on the kickstarter hard enough to start it up. Needless to say,
> now I am a fanatic about keeping the battery maintained and charged
> properly.
>
add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 11:21 am
by Devon Jarvis
You need to have the piston in exactly the right position for a
kickstarter to work at all. On an inline-4 or a two-stroke single you
can just kick from any position and it will fire. BUT on a thumper, the
kickstarter will barely spin the motor around twice, so you need to be
just past TDC and beginning the power stroke, when you kick. The SR has
a manual decompressor AND an indicator window on the end of the cam, so
it's easy to position. The auto-decompressor on the KLR would make
finding the position of the piston by feel somewhat difficult I would
think. "Compression" when the decompressor is engaged, and the cam
opening a valve, feel very similar. If you could figure out the position
of the piston, it would make kickstarting a lot more reliable. OR remove
the auto-decompressor- then you could kickstart it reliably (but you'd
have trouble with the electric starter.
Devon
A15
Zachariah Mully wrote:
>
> You wanna sell the adapter? I am sure my 235lbs might be able to
> kick it over and it would impress all the girls around here
> A question for any other city riders: Do you find that you get a
> lot of respect and attention from the African-American community when
> you're riding your KLR? I live in SE DC and wherever I ride, every kid
> that sees me and wants me to wheelie, some come up and grab the throttle
> and try and rev the bike while I am at a stop light. This never happened
> on my equally bad looking Concours... Strange thing is I feel safer riding
> in the marginal neighborhoods when I am on my KLR because I feel visible
> (I know that may sound like it contradicts general street safety, but all
> the attention that I get is respectful attention, people come up and want
> to know about the bike, what it's like, who I am, if I'll go riding with
> them, etc. etc.)...
> I just find it odd. I know if I was on a sport bike, I would fear
> it being stolen, but with the KLR, I will go into a store, do my shopping,
> and when I come out, I have people waiting to talk to me. Much better
> theft protection that being invisible!
>
> Z
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 michiganmosers@... wrote:
>
> > You aren't missing much!! I added the kickstarter to my 1993 A7
> > thinking it could be a lifesaver if I was stuck in the woods with a
> > dead battery. I am 5'10" and 175 lbs and have never been able to
> > kick over this bike enough to even get it to 'pop' much less start.
> > I think you need to be at least 6' 2 and 250 lbs to reliably kick
> > start this beast. I even have a centerstand now and still can't jump
> > down on the kickstarter hard enough to start it up. Needless to say,
> > now I am a fanatic about keeping the battery maintained and charged
> > properly.
> >
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add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 7:05 pm
by TLrydr@aol.com
In a message dated 10/4/01 10:51:26 AM EST, zmully@... writes:
<< I live in SE DC and wherever I ride, every kid
that sees me and wants me to wheelie, >>
I think , The kids think its a MOTOCROSS bike,
Here in Odessa, Texas, If the streets look cool , I will always wheelie for
the kids,
If i am on the KLR or one of my sport bikes, Its the cool thing to do.
Mike
add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2001 8:02 am
by guymanbro@excite.com
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Zachariah Mully wrote:
> A question for any other city riders: Do you find that you
get a lot of respect and attention from the African-American
community when you're riding your KLR? I live in SE DC and wherever I
ride, every kid that sees me and wants me to wheelie, >>>>>>>
"Raise it UP, Son!!!!" I hear it all the time. It's kinda funny,
except the ones that insist you ain't a man if you don't wheelie for
them. I usually tell those guys, "Grow some tits and I'll pop a
wheelie for ya." Lots of neighborhood kids want to touch the bike and
look on longingly when I start it up. I'll usually give the kids a
couple of obnoxious revs to get the smiles going and then if the
traffic is light, I *might* wheelie for them (don't like going mono
in the city very often -- too many bad memories).
dat brooklyn bum
add kick starter to 2001 klr650
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2001 8:15 am
by Ted Palmer
Devon Jarvis wrote:
[...]
> OR remove
> the auto-decompressor- then you could kickstart it reliably (but you'd
> have trouble with the electric starter.
I doubt very much that removing the auto-decompressor would do any more
than cause a lot of consternation.
If the starter motor with its significant gearing would not be able
to turn the engine over then I doubt that jumping on the kicklever
would get it over TDC.
I recall the "fun" I had many years ago with a borrowed XT500 of unknown
maintenance history.
If it wasn't for the decomp system then there was no way I could get
it past TDC, and that was with a motor that is smaller than a KLR, and
likely with lower compression ratio too.
Mister_T
Melbourne Australia
loud pipes save lives. piss people off. increas e mc bans.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2001 11:09 am
by Bogdan Swider
> They only hear you once you pass them. So they didn't see you and you
> pissed them off. Much better. I'm taking my whole exhaust system off
> this weekend!!!
>
> Riley
> Montreal
>
Imagine the lives you'll save.
Bogdan