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stupid dead batteries
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2001 7:45 pm
by monahanwb@yahoo.com
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., fixerdave@h... wrote:
> > When it's cold and the battery's flat, like when you'd actually
really
> want to bump-start, my bike WILL NOT START (period). I have tried
and
> tried, I've rolled down hill with someone pushing, with the engine
> turning over and over, and it will not start. I've tried
> disconnecting the headlight and it won't bump-start.
It's not just your bike. My KLR won't start down a hill with a dead
battery either. Needs a jump.
stupid dead batteries
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2001 1:09 pm
by J. Gregory
no one will start with a totally dead battery because the alternator magneto
(whatever your want to call them) has to have some juice to activate the
electromagnets that make them work. you could probably active them with a
flashlight battery but they need some electric juice to start producing
electricity.
Jim Gregory
Arkansas
stupid dead batteries
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2001 1:48 pm
by Jim Ousley
> no one will start with a totally dead battery because the alternator
magneto
> (whatever your want to call them) has to have some juice to activate the
> electromagnets
Wrong.
The ignition system is totally separate from the battery on a KLR.
And the (magneto) has permanent magnets.
This means that even with a completely dead battery you
can push start a KLR
Jim
stupid dead batteries
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2001 4:08 pm
by Pierre Fortier
this is true for alternator, but not for magneto ( permanent magnets)...is
it not a magneto in KLR ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Gregory"
To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Stupid Dead Batteries
> no one will start with a totally dead battery because the alternator
magneto
> (whatever your want to call them) has to have some juice to activate the
> electromagnets that make them work. you could probably active them with a
> flashlight battery but they need some electric juice to start producing
> electricity.
> Jim Gregory
> Arkansas
stupid dead batteries
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2001 8:26 pm
by Conall O'Brien
>From: "Jim Ousley"
>To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Stupid Dead Batteries
>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:49:17 -0400
>
>
> > no one will start with a totally dead battery because the alternator
>magneto
> > (whatever your want to call them) has to have some juice to activate the
> > electromagnets
>
>Wrong.
>
>The ignition system is totally separate from the battery on a KLR.
>And the (magneto) has permanent magnets.
>This means that even with a completely dead battery you
>can push start a KLR
>
>Jim
>
>
Yep, no battery necessary to start a KLR. I prefer to use the optional
kickstarter or a compact tow rope or jump start. Bump starting a KLR on the
flats is near impossible at least compared to a Honda 90.
Conall
KLR with kick art
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stupid dead batteries
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 8:44 am
by Ted Palmer
Jim Ousley wrote:
[...]
> This means that even with a completely dead battery you
> can push start a KLR
Has anyone actually done this?
I would experiment on my 600 but it is still in pieces.
Are any of you 600 owners out there willing to disconnect the
battery and kick start it in the interests of science?
Mister_T
Melbourne Australia
stupid dead batteries
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:21 am
by Peter Dahlheimer, MD
i've done this. wouldn't recommend riding long distances though if you can
help it. will kill something...
kickstarted my 76 goldwing in the middle of an indian reservation in arizona
too. not a drop of liquid in the battery. had to ride a bunch to get to a
bike shop.
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ignition upgrades
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:28 am
by Frank Sikorski
Just wondering if the list has ever fooled around with ignition
system and/or coil upgrades? Nology Engineering does some stuff with
bikes (mostly Harley's) and I fired off the question to them as well.
I have had great success with automotive upgrades but never messed
with the motorcycle systems much. I haven't been able to find any
info in searching the old posts here.
Frank
stupid dead batteries
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:51 am
by zootpatutie
I've push started my A9 with a dead battery. Multiple times during an
offroad scouting excursion. Better done in 2nd gear, iffy sometimes, but I
thought that the battery had to be connected as it was part of the circuit.
Haven't tried it without one.
t.