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				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2001 9:49 pm
				by Guest
				Hello,
 I am thinking of buying a bike after 15 years. The KLR650 looks like
 a good value, as well as a blast to ride. Last bike was a street bike
 (KZ650). I have no experience with a thumper type bike - will the KLR 
 tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
 Also, does the seat height cause many problems with average height 
 people? 5'8", that is. Thanks. 
 Scot
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2001 10:15 pm
				by Lance Collier
				Scot,
 The seat could be a little high, but if you soften the suspension or 
 get the lowering links, the KLR650 would come down to your height.  
 It rides passengers really well.  The seat is comfortable and the 
 passenger footpegs are frame-mounted not swingarm mounted.  It has 
 really nice grab handles on the luggage rack for the passenger.
 
 Lance
 
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., oscot_bumgarner@h... wrote:
 > Hello,
 > I am thinking of buying a bike after 15 years. The KLR650 looks like
 > a good value, as well as a blast to ride. Last bike was a street 
 bike
 > (KZ650). I have no experience with a thumper type bike - will the 
 KLR 
 > tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
 > Also, does the seat height cause many problems with average height 
 > people? 5'8", that is. Thanks. 
 > Scot 
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2001 10:55 pm
				by Scott Adams
				thumper type bike - will the KLR
 
 > tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
 > Also, does the seat height cause many problems with average height
 > people? 5'8", that is. Thanks.
 > Scot
 
  
Scot - I am 5'9 and the seat does not cause me any problems - but I am used
 to a fairly tall and a lot heavier BMW.
 
 The KLR will have more than enough power to haul you and your young'un
 around town.  My wife and I are not the lightest (say 350 total and let the
 chips fall where they may) and it does fine for general crusing.  I would
 not want to go for a long trip that way.
 
 What might be a problem is the seating room.  Granted, my wife is 5 months
 pregnant right now so last weekend was not quite the norm, but we were out
 for quite a bit and I found the seating position to be quite wrong for two
 up.  I usually want to sit dead center in the seat leaving not a lot of room
 for a passenger.  With Frances on the back I was pushed up against the tank
 too much.
 
 It occurs to me that I probably ought to stop now before I get in...more?...
 trouble....
 
 -Scott
 
 Scott C. Adams
 Scott@...     or     
www.attorneyadams.com
 20565 S.W. Tualatin Valley Hwy., #301, Aloha, Oregon 97006
                      (503) 324-0111     or     fax (503) 324-1127
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 10:18 am
				by kysely@comptek.com
				Hi Scot,
 
 I have a KLR and a Honda VFR 750 for those days when I need some real 
 speed. My wife much prefers riding on the KLR. The upright position 
 and plenty of leg room are big plusses to her. The KLR hauls us 
 around town just fine, but I do leave more room for braking (and I 
 have the Braking front disk mod, which is a big help). Together we 
 weigh close to 300 pounds. It's not a road rocket, but will handle 
 the freeway two-up for as long as you're comfortable sitting there.
 
 As to height, I'm a touch over 5'8" myself, with a 31-inch inseam. 
 I'm on my tip-toes at stoplights, but have ridden KLRs for 12 years 
 with no height related problems--it's a balance thing. Putting a 
 passenger or a load of camping gear on the back squishes the 
 suspension down enough to get the balls of my feet to the tarmac. Sit 
 on one at the dealer's and see how it feels (and don't forget that 
 people sell lowering links). They really are great bikes.
 
 __Arden Kysely
 
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., oscot_bumgarner@h... wrote:
 > Hello,
 > I am thinking of buying a bike after 15 years. The KLR650 looks like
 > a good value, as well as a blast to ride. Last bike was a street 
 bike
 > (KZ650). I have no experience with a thumper type bike - will the 
 KLR 
 > tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
 > Also, does the seat height cause many problems with average height 
 > people? 5'8", that is. Thanks. 
 > Scot 
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 10:49 am
				by Miata Myk
				> I am thinking of buying a bike after 15 years. The KLR650 looks like
 > a good value, as well as a blast to ride. Last bike was a street bike
 > (KZ650). I have no experience with a thumper type bike - will the KLR
 > tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
 
 
  
I don't have one yet (hopefully this week!) but a 13lb passenger shouldn't
 cause any problems at all. The babyseat might be knocked around by the wind
 a bit though. 
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 1:35 pm
				by BGRDSHARK@aol.com
				My situation is similar. I returned to riding after 20 years last April. I'm 
 6'1" and 250. The KLR gets me around town, on freeways with no problem. The 
 power is limited due to engine break in limitations especially the first 500 
 miles. Last weekend I rode about 140 miles back and forth to Long Beach. It's 
 fun on the twisties and was able to run 75/80 without  making it work to 
 hard. Fuel mileage is good @ 50mpg. My 12 year old goes with me and it's 
 still comfortable. In the future a better seat would be in order for longer 
 rides and stiffer suspension components when my off road riding gets more  
 aggressive. 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Bgrdshark
 "01 KLR"
 
 
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				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 2:25 pm
				by Charles MacKarness
				I am @ 180 and my wife 130 both ride my A13 loaded with gear at 
 times, to work several times a month without gear and have had zero 
 problems.
 The only issue I ever have had is two up and an overloaded rear of 
 the bike made slow speed handling wierd due to the light front end.
 Never a power, torque or breaking problem.
 
 
 
 --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Miata Myk"  wrote:
 > > I am thinking of buying a bike after 15 years. The KLR650 looks 
 like
 > > a good value, as well as a blast to ride. Last bike was a street 
 bike
 > > (KZ650). I have no experience with a thumper type bike - will the 
 KLR
 > > tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
 > 
 > 
 > I don't have one yet (hopefully this week!) but a 13lb passenger 
 shouldn't
 > cause any problems at all. The babyseat might be knocked around by 
 the wind
 > a bit though.  
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 7:38 pm
				by richardm@gowinnt.com
				>suspension down enough to get the balls of my feet to the tarmac. Sit 
 >on one at the dealer's and see how it feels (and don't forget that 
 >people sell lowering links). They really are great bikes.
 
  
Also, check the one on the showroom floor to make sure the preload isn't 
 cranked up.  If it is, the suspension won't sag as much.  I'm 185lbs and I ride 
 with no preload.  I can get the rear susp to bottom if I try but I normally 
 ride pretty calmly and I have no trouble.
 
 With a passenger on the back... Some preload is better.
 
 RM
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 8:05 pm
				by InWoods13@aol.com
				Scot,
 
  I use the KLR for two-up stuff on a pretty regular basis, both on & off 
 road. I at 160+, she at 120+. 
 The One prerequisite that I found early on for two-up on the KLR, was a 
 passenger backrest. (that I don't have to worry about the better other 
 bouncing off the back under acceleration) 
 I found my solution, in a Happy Trails Givi adapter plate, along with a Givi 
 E40 topcase with passenger backrest. 
 The HT Givi adapter is a solid unit, and is designed to move the 
 topcase/backrest back a few inches..giving pilot & passenger more room to 
 move around.
 The Givi E40 has proven to me, to be a secure backrest for both on & offroad 
 duty, & it's seen heavy use/abuse...It also holds a ton of stuff. 
 E40's also transferable to other bikes with Givi adapters. I use mine as a 
 passenger backrest for both the KLR and the Bandit. 
 
 Regardless of height, everybody's got there own comfort level as the height 
 of their ride goes. I prefer no flat foot on ground stuff, while at a stop. 
 Just feels more natural to me being toe-down. 
 There are currently a couple of manufacturers, and choices in sizes of 
 lowering links for the KLR. At this moment, there are 1.5 inch drop links & 1 
 inch drop links available. 
 Don Beck is developing a 3/4 inch drop to add to his line up, can't wait to 
 try that. 
 My infatuation with lowlinks for the KLR comes not from wanting to get my 
 feet lower to the ground, but from wanting better all around handling 
 characteristics from the KLR, without sacrificing too much clearance. 
 Whichever link you choose, you'll feel the handling difference.
 
 Scott
 A14 "thunderdog"
 Sorrento, Fl
 
 
 
 In a message dated 7/31/01 10:51:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 oscot_bumgarner@... writes:
 
 << Hello,
  I am thinking of buying a bike after 15 years. The KLR650 looks like
  a good value, as well as a blast to ride. Last bike was a street bike
  (KZ650). I have no experience with a thumper type bike - will the KLR 
  tote a rider 180 lb and a passenger 13? suitably around town?
  Also, does the seat height cause many problems with average height 
  people? 5'8", that is. Thanks. 
  Scot >>
 
			 
			
					
				passengers on a klr650?
				Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 10:12 pm
				by Chris
				Hi Scot,
 
 I am the same weight as you and have a 2000 klr 650. Around town that
 shouldn't be a problem. I'm 5'10 and have lowered my bike, not by buying a
 lowering kit, by adjusting the suspension. I softend the rear shock as far
 as it would go and then adjusted the steering uh... "column" and slid it
 down the forks 1.5 ". You could do the same.
 
 So far the bike is fantastic as far as reliablility and fun to ride. I do
 however find it a little boring on the hwy. Most of the reviews I've read
 are pretty true, one that comes to mind can be found on 
www.motorcycle.com.
 
 The only real complaint other than the boringness in terms of accelleration
 is that it rattles a lot, and I always carry some zip ties and will soon be
 locktighting some bolts. (My bike before it was a 4 cyl 650 and it was much
 quicker)
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Chris.