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--- In DSN_klr650@y..., jett@r... wrote: > Some listers have expressed interest in hot weather jackets, so I > thought I'd share my recent experience. My normal riding suit is a > black Tourmaster Sport 2-piece, but a Camelback running dry on a > recent 112-degree day coming back from the mountains convinced me I > should find a better summer jacket. > > I'd tried a friend's Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket and wasn't satisfied > with my perceptions of the abrasion resistance, so I ordered the BMW > AirFlow jacket in silver. It was a moderate day today, temp 104, > humidity 18%, so I took the jacket out for an hour of backroads and > highways. Long story short, I'm very satisfied with the venting and > my expectations of safety. The pricing was high, at $399, but I > figured it was at least a hundred less than a perforated Vanson, > which doesn't include pads. > > Safey: Although the jacket is fairly lightweight, the material feels > tough, and surprisingly slick, which I assume helps in abrasion > resistance. Pads are included for shoulders and elbows, and the back > pad was $41 extra. Of particular interest were the vent areas > covering the chest patches, back patches, and underside of the arms > and sides by my ribcage. The vent areas are generous, and seem tough. > They seem to be some kind of interlocked pattern. I'm not going to > voluntarily test it, but it's my impression that the safety aspect of > the jacket took precedence over the venting. > > Venting: It's not magic, but it's pretty good. At highway speeds with > a t-shirt underneath, I didn't get a wind inside the jacket, but > there was some very light airflow. As a result, it felt like standing > still in the same weather, in a slight breeze. I thought that was > pretty good. I didn't have the Camelbak, but if I had I could have > ridden a few hours without the heat being a problem. I did get the > silver jacket for its reflective capability, and think it works. > > The construction quality seems very good. The BMW logos are tiny and > inconspicuous. Delivery was less than 48 hours for about $22. The > styling is purely subjective, so I'll refer listers to the web site, > to decide for themselves. The pix and full details are at the BMW > Motorcycle site (http://www.bmwridersapparel.com/). Follow the > Textile Suit link to the AirFlow suit. I may still add a Marsee > cooling vest, and maybe the Airflow pants. Since it's highly vented, > there is no pretense of waterproofness. I'd also read in another > evaluation that the jacket gets pretty chilly when the temp goes > under 70 degrees. Still, for the Sonoran desert in July, I'm pretty > happy with it. > > Jett, Scottsdale, AZ

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., debbie@c... wrote: > According to my wife this stuff is much cooler than anything she has > ever worn while riding, she recently bought the airflow pants and the > savanah jacket and while we thankfully haven't had ant 100 degree > days to test it in the 80- degree days (with high humidity) she says > it is very comfortable. I am starting to rethink the all black look > myself. HOT > John > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., jett@r... wrote: > > Some listers have expressed interest in hot weather jackets, so I > > thought I'd share my recent experience. My normal riding suit is a > > black Tourmaster Sport 2-piece, but a Camelback running dry on a > > recent 112-degree day coming back from the mountains convinced me I > > should find a better summer jacket. > > > > I'd tried a friend's Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket and wasn't satisfied > > with my perceptions of the abrasion resistance, so I ordered the > BMW > > AirFlow jacket in silver. It was a moderate day today, temp 104, > > humidity 18%, so I took the jacket out for an hour of backroads and > > highways. Long story short, I'm very satisfied with the venting and > > my expectations of safety. The pricing was high, at $399, but I > > figured it was at least a hundred less than a perforated Vanson, > > which doesn't include pads. > > > > Safey: Although the jacket is fairly lightweight, the material > feels > > tough, and surprisingly slick, which I assume helps in abrasion > > resistance. Pads are included for shoulders and elbows, and the > back > > pad was $41 extra. Of particular interest were the vent areas > > covering the chest patches, back patches, and underside of the arms > > and sides by my ribcage. The vent areas are generous, and seem > tough. > > They seem to be some kind of interlocked pattern. I'm not going to > > voluntarily test it, but it's my impression that the safety aspect > of > > the jacket took precedence over the venting. > > > > Venting: It's not magic, but it's pretty good. At highway speeds > with > > a t-shirt underneath, I didn't get a wind inside the jacket, but > > there was some very light airflow. As a result, it felt like > standing > > still in the same weather, in a slight breeze. I thought that was > > pretty good. I didn't have the Camelbak, but if I had I could have > > ridden a few hours without the heat being a problem. I did get the > > silver jacket for its reflective capability, and think it works. > > > > The construction quality seems very good. The BMW logos are tiny > and > > inconspicuous. Delivery was less than 48 hours for about $22. The > > styling is purely subjective, so I'll refer listers to the web > site, > > to decide for themselves. The pix and full details are at the BMW > > Motorcycle site (http://www.bmwridersapparel.com/). Follow the > > Textile Suit link to the AirFlow suit. I may still add a Marsee > > cooling vest, and maybe the Airflow pants. Since it's highly > vented, > > there is no pretense of waterproofness. I'd also read in another > > evaluation that the jacket gets pretty chilly when the temp goes > > under 70 degrees. Still, for the Sonoran desert in July, I'm pretty > > happy with it. > > > > Jett, Scottsdale, AZ

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., fireball@h... wrote: > I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport isn't > very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. > > My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully > vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the > jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. > Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice to > pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the > thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden the > full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees > F, and it has performed well in all humidities. > > The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. > > On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in > hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep > moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they don't > like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt > like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners were > installed. > > All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in the > summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review of > Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... > www.motoport.com > > Fireball

>From: glenn@... >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR - Summer Jacket - BMW AirFlow >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 03:58:36 -0000 > >I have to second the plug for motoport. They're custom making me a >body guard jacket and only charging me an extra $50.00 to do it. They >are very friendly and helpful-- a pleasure to deal with. I can't >wait to get the jacket. Sure no abrasion protection to speak of, but >for off-road and around town should be awesome. > >Glenn > > >--- In DSN_klr650@y..., fireball@h... wrote: > > I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport >isn't > > very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. > > > > My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully > > vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the > > jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. > > Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice >to > > pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the > > thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden >the > > full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees > > F, and it has performed well in all humidities. > > > > The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. > > > > On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in > > hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep > > moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they >don't > > like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt > > like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners >were > > installed. > > > > All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in >the > > summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review >of > > Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... > > www.motoport.com > > > > Fireball > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: >http://www.dualsportnews.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

> I'm very happy with my Motoport Ultra Cordura jacket. Motoport isn't > very good at marketing, but they have some progressive ideas. > > My Ultra is heavy duty (1000 denier) Cordura, uncoated, and fully > vented. Without the optional waterproof and thermal liner, the > jacket is comfortable from roughly 55 to over 100 degrees F. > Uncoated means that it breathes, and in real hot weather it's nice to > pour water on the jacket so it acts like a swamp cooler. Add the > thermal and moisture liners, and it's good for cold. I've ridden the > full Motoport suit from sub-zero temperatures to nearly 110 degrees > F, and it has performed well in all humidities. > > The super-duper Motoport suit is made of a Kevlar blend. > > On the downside, your buddies will think it looks weird to wear in > hot temperatures. If you stand around in it you sweat. Gotta keep > moving to be comfortable. I've also heard one person say they don't > like the position of the waist cinch band. Another said they felt > like the "Michelin Man" when all the thermal and moisture liners were > installed. > > All I can say is that it works well in west Texas and Florida in the > summer, and in 27 degree cold fog in the Arctic. I wrote a review of > Motoport for DSN, but don't know when it will hit the mail... > www.motoport.com > > Fireball > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> Yeah......that's just cause you never sweat Fireball........

> Sometime in the near future I'll be heading out to see my brother > near Denver. Anything I need to see along the way? I'm going to > prefer to do about a 10 day trip, with about 500-700 miles per day, > maybe more or less if I feel like it. If I get a wild hair, I might > even try for an Iron Butt, but I don't think my butt could handle

> anymore. My Savannah Ga to Pittsburgh in 10 hours days are over, > but I do like to ride. Anyway, trying to keep about 50%-50% main

> back roads, are there any suggestions from the group on > where/what/why. My route so far looks like I'll be > heading out on I-70. Any suggestions, not too far out of the way > please, that I might enjoy? My trip out will be a quickie, but

> take my time getting back. I've got almost 200hrs of leave, and I > need to kill (only allowed to kill) about 40 hours. Leaving on a > Friday afternoon, returning about 10 days later. Any suggestions, > please feel free to contact me. > Thanks > Jim Miller