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aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2001 10:05 pm
by Devon Jarvis
What are good options for an aftermarket exhaust for a KLR650 A15? I
have supertrapps on both my SR500's, but they are pretty loud, and hard
to jet for. I have spoken with racers and tuners who said you really
need a rolling-road type dyno to get a Supertrapp set up exactly right.
The SR's run very well, but only because a few hundred people have put
the same filter, pipe, and carb, on the same bike, then shared their
results.
I like the >50mpg I am getting with the stock motor setup. I also like
the quiet pipe, because a lot of the places near me where I can ride
off-road are not exactly legal (railroad and power line right-of-ways,
etc.) and being low-profile helps.
I have heard nothing good about the Cobra products. I have heard good
and bad things about the Supertrapp. The "Big Gun" pipe seems well
liked, but very loud. What other options are there?
Are these all slip-ons, or complete headpipe/supressor systems? How much
weight can be saved with an aftermarket exhaust? Any idea which exhaust
can be set up for stock intake plumbing and jetting?
Thanks,
Devon
A15
78 SR500
81 SR500
aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2001 11:24 pm
by John Lyon
Devon:
Check out the Laser Pro Duro. Fred at Arrowhead Motorsports should be
getting his first big shipment in as we speak. The Laser Pro Duro is made
from stainless steel and is mechanically baffled (no repacking needed). The
pipe only weights a couple of pounds lighter than the stock muffler. It is
very quiet (about the same as the stocker but a deeper tone). I am running
stock jetting and a K&N filter at sea level with no problems. I hope to have
a web site up in the next few days with all the details on the Laser Pro
Duro. Cost should be around $400 Gino has been using the Laser Pro Duro for
a few years now on his KLR. For now check out my pictures at:
http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/jlyonamf
John
On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:54:19 -0400, jarvisd@... wrote:
What are good options for an aftermarket exhaust for a KLR650 A15? I
have supertrapps on both my SR500's, but they are pretty loud, and hard
to jet for. I have spoken with racers and tuners who said you really
need a rolling-road type dyno to get a Supertrapp set up exactly right.
The SR's run very well, but only because a few hundred people have put
the same filter, pipe, and carb, on the same bike, then shared their
results.
I like the >50mpg I am getting with the stock motor setup. I also like
the quiet pipe, because a lot of the places near me where I can ride
off-road are not exactly legal (railroad and power line right-of-ways,
etc.) and being low-profile helps.
I have heard nothing good about the Cobra products. I have heard good
and bad things about the Supertrapp. The "Big Gun" pipe seems well
liked, but very loud. What other options are there?
Are these all slip-ons, or complete headpipe/supressor systems? How much
weight can be saved with an aftermarket exhaust? Any idea which exhaust
can be set up for stock intake plumbing and jetting?
Thanks,
Devon
A15
78 SR500
81 SR500
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aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:40 am
by darkthought@worldnet.att.net
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote:
> What are good options for an aftermarket exhaust for a KLR650 A15? I
> have supertrapps on both my SR500's, but they are pretty loud, and
hard to jet for.
>
> -snip-
>
> I have heard nothing good about the Cobra products. I have heard
> good and bad things about the Supertrapp. The "Big Gun" pipe seems
> well liked, but very loud. What other options are there?
>
> Are these all slip-ons, or complete headpipe/supressor systems? How
> much weight can be saved with an aftermarket exhaust? Any idea
> which exhaust can be set up for stock intake plumbing and jetting?
>
I just put a Big Gun (quiet series) on my A9. I was a little
concerned about how loud it was gonna be after reading various
comments, but so far it's not bad. The idle tone is deeper
and 'throatier' than stock. Once you get up to speed it's noticeably
louder, but not ridiculous. However I've only put about 50 miles on
it since installing it, so I can't provide any long term feedback yet.
The Big Gun is complete headpipe/can system. In the case of the Big
Gun vs. the stock Kaw exhaust, there's a significant weight savings.
The Kaw system is steel, and the muffler portion is HEAVY! It feels
like it weighs more than the entire Big Gun system. I didn't weigh
all the parts to compare them, but it's gotta be several pounds.
I would think any exhaust that's less restrictive than stock is gonna
require a re-jet.
I didn't hear about the Lasers after I had bought my Big Gun,
otherwise I might've gone for one of those.
- Brian
aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2001 1:03 pm
by Fred Williams
Great Pics John!!!
Best ones yet. I cant wait for your website.
Only one problem though......
Your bike is waaayy to clean! and I can't allow myself to believe
that any of this is for real with a KLR that clean....
Better luck next time Alien-mind-control-attempting-scum!!
Fred
A15 Kawtchasaki
PS what looked like carbon fiber above the lower pipe clamo in the
pic? another Alien mind trick or a Carbon airbox lid maybe?
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., John Lyon wrote:
> Devon:
>
> Check out the Laser Pro Duro. Fred at Arrowhead Motorsports should
be
> getting his first big shipment in as we speak. The Laser Pro Duro
is made
> from stainless steel and is mechanically baffled (no repacking
needed). The
> pipe only weights a couple of pounds lighter than the stock
muffler. It is
> very quiet (about the same as the stocker but a deeper tone). I am
running
> stock jetting and a K&N filter at sea level with no problems. I
hope to have
> a web site up in the next few days with all the details on the
Laser Pro
> Duro. Cost should be around $400 Gino has been using the Laser Pro
Duro for
> a few years now on his KLR. For now check out my pictures at:
>
http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/jlyonamf
>
> John
>
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:54:19 -0400, jarvisd@e... wrote:
>
> What are good options for an aftermarket exhaust for a KLR650
A15? I
> have supertrapps on both my SR500's, but they are pretty loud,
and hard
> to jet for. I have spoken with racers and tuners who said you
really
> need a rolling-road type dyno to get a Supertrapp set up exactly
right.
> The SR's run very well, but only because a few hundred people
have put
> the same filter, pipe, and carb, on the same bike, then shared
their
> results.
>
> I like the >50mpg I am getting with the stock motor setup. I also
like
> the quiet pipe, because a lot of the places near me where I can
ride
> off-road are not exactly legal (railroad and power line right-of-
ways,
> etc.) and being low-profile helps.
>
> I have heard nothing good about the Cobra products. I have heard
good
> and bad things about the Supertrapp. The "Big Gun" pipe seems well
> liked, but very loud. What other options are there?
>
> Are these all slip-ons, or complete headpipe/supressor systems?
How much
> weight can be saved with an aftermarket exhaust? Any idea which
exhaust
> can be set up for stock intake plumbing and jetting?
>
> Thanks,
> Devon
> A15
> 78 SR500
> 81 SR500
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________
> Send a cool gift with your E-Card
>
http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2001 5:07 pm
by thesquasher@hotmail.com
I agree, and it's a 2000 Y2KLR
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Fred Williams" wrote:
>
> Only one problem though......
>
>
> Your bike is waaayy to clean! and I can't allow myself to believe
> that any of this is for real with a KLR that clean....
aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2001 6:09 pm
by jlyonamf_@excite.com
LOL!
I did a major PM service to the bike when I put the muffler on.
Getting dirt in bearings, the top end of the motor, etc. sucks, so I
wash it before every big PM service. If it makes you all feel better,
it is a much browner shade of green now :>
PS: The Carbon airbox lid is an "Alien-mind-control-attempt"
Take me to your leader,
Alien Scum John
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Fred Williams" wrote:
> Great Pics John!!!
>
> Best ones yet. I cant wait for your website.
>
> Only one problem though......
>
>
> Your bike is waaayy to clean! and I can't allow myself to believe
> that any of this is for real with a KLR that clean....
>
> Better luck next time Alien-mind-control-attempting-scum!!
>
> Fred
> A15 Kawtchasaki
>
> PS what looked like carbon fiber above the lower pipe clamo in the
> pic? another Alien mind trick or a Carbon airbox lid maybe?
alternative to corbin seats nklr was 2000 red corbin
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2001 1:54 am
by Joe Smith
I've bought two seats from them, both standard production and both for
Ducatis. In each case customer service was excellent, very courteous, comes
with 30 day satisfacton guarantee. Custom work may be different story in
terms of any guarantees but i am sure they will be up front about it. FWIW
I have never heard of anyone having a negative experience with Sargent,
problems have been squared away without question. On the other hand I have
heard lots of bad stories about Corbin although I have had no direct
dealings with them. In fact with my second seat there was a problem with
how the cowl fit the rear of the seat due to a running production change
made by Ducati that Sargen't had been unaware of. They owned right up to
it, apologized profusely and got me a new seat out as soon as mine reached
them, they also paid shipping both ways.
As an aside for those who own cruisers there is some sort of working
relationship with Sargent and Mustang although I believe it is limited to
selling each others products. In any case I bought a Mustang for my '01
Super Glide and experienced excellent service from Mustang also, another
company I can recommend without reservation.
Joe S
aftermarket exhaust options.....free lunch?
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2001 6:37 am
by Tom Komjathy
As for Big Gun Exhaust; I recently installed one on my 98 KLR and when the
suspension compressed it the tire contacted the header pipe and trashed the
tire. I call Paul at Big Gun to inquire and he said they will retool for
this problem. Anyone else had this problem? Yes! It is a stock size tire.
Yes! The preload was set on #5 of the stock shock. Yes! I Wt. 215 and carry
about 60 LB of gear but it still shouldn't eat a tire.
VR
Tom
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Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: aftermarket exhaust options.....Free Lunch?
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote:
> > What are good options for an aftermarket exhaust for a KLR650 A15? I
> > have supertrapps on both my SR500's, but they are pretty loud, and
> hard to jet for.
> >
> > -snip-
> >
> > I have heard nothing good about the Cobra products. I have heard
> > good and bad things about the Supertrapp. The "Big Gun" pipe seems
> > well liked, but very loud. What other options are there?
> >
> > Are these all slip-ons, or complete headpipe/supressor systems? How
> > much weight can be saved with an aftermarket exhaust? Any idea
> > which exhaust can be set up for stock intake plumbing and jetting?
> >
>
>
> I just put a Big Gun (quiet series) on my A9. I was a little
> concerned about how loud it was gonna be after reading various
> comments, but so far it's not bad. The idle tone is deeper
> and 'throatier' than stock. Once you get up to speed it's noticeably
> louder, but not ridiculous. However I've only put about 50 miles on
> it since installing it, so I can't provide any long term feedback yet.
>
> The Big Gun is complete headpipe/can system. In the case of the Big
> Gun vs. the stock Kaw exhaust, there's a significant weight savings.
> The Kaw system is steel, and the muffler portion is HEAVY! It feels
> like it weighs more than the entire Big Gun system. I didn't weigh
> all the parts to compare them, but it's gotta be several pounds.
>
> I would think any exhaust that's less restrictive than stock is gonna
> require a re-jet.
>
> I didn't hear about the Lasers after I had bought my Big Gun,
> otherwise I might've gone for one of those.
>
> - Brian
>
>
>
>
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