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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 3:48 pm
by Ric Merry
...just had Office Depot print
out a price ticket for the non-existent III+ and took it to the Wal-Mart
next door. 5 minutes later walked out with their $349 III+ for $99.
(Best Buy matches prices too)
I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only
run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others.
As always, YMMV
Ric Merry
Western gateway to the North Cascades
97ZG1K2LR650A7
www.concours.org/ric/>
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 5:30 pm
by Jack Ballard
>
>
>I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only
>run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others.
>As always, YMMV
>
>Ric Merry
>Western gateway to the North Cascades
>97ZG1K2LR650A7
Is that a big deal Rick? Seriously. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I
don't know anything about GPS's but have a lot of pilot friends who use the
Garmin brand. They seem to be the most popular so I'm thinking that their
Mapsource Roads and Recreation CD might be all one would ever need? Or is
that a misconception?
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 5:52 pm
by Nassif, Joe
Ric Merry comments;
> I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+ can only
> run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others.
I don't know about know others, but I do know based on my testing out of my
new Office Depot G-III+, that you can't load ANY map areas into it from the
Map Source MetroGuide CD. I use MetroGuide for my Street Pilot, but will
have to run out now and purchase the R&R CD if I want enhanced information
for the III+.
For KLR content, The III+ mounts on my KLR DS dash (obtained from Rider
Warehouse)much more conveniently that the SP does......(:^)
cheers
Joe Nassif
SFNM
A13
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 10:35 pm
by rhefferan@yahoo.com
I have a Garmin 12MAP which is pretty comparable (internal feature-
wise) with the III+. I have TOPO! mapping software which only
provides waypoint programing between the software and the unit. TOPO!
offered better printed map features and detail than others for my
money at the time.
It may be true that Garmins Map Source is the only way to enhance
the internal map display, but I would expect other software makers to
offer that ability. You'd have to research that. As for the chance of
getting a III+ for $99, I just checked
www.officedepot.com and found
the EMAP for $99.88 which is a terrific deal. The III+ $289, which is
a great price also. The EMAP could be a better choice for many, check
the features. If I had it to do over I'd get a EMAP now. Heck, I
might just do it anyway and sell my 12MAP. Anyone interested?
Rex
A7
--- In
DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Nassif, Joe" wrote:
> Ric Merry comments;
>
> > I also gathered from scanning the post on that list that the III+
can only
> > run Garmin's MapSource Roads and Recreation CD, no others.
>
>
> I don't know about know others, but I do know based on my testing
out of my
> new Office Depot G-III+, that you can't load ANY map areas into it
from the
> Map Source MetroGuide CD. I use MetroGuide for my Street Pilot,
but will
> have to run out now and purchase the R&R CD if I want enhanced
information
> for the III+.
>
> For KLR content, The III+ mounts on my KLR DS dash (obtained from
Rider
> Warehouse)much more conveniently that the SP does......(:^)
>
> cheers
>
> Joe Nassif
> SFNM
> A13
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 10:47 pm
by Backroad Bandit
I just checked
www.officedepot.com and found
> the EMAP for $99.88 which is a terrific deal. The III+ $289, which
is
> a great price also. The EMAP could be a better choice for many,
check
> the features. If I had it to do over I'd get a EMAP now. Heck, I
> might just do it anyway and sell my 12MAP. Anyone interested?
>
Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot. Should I
walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally illiterate on
the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 11:05 pm
by Mark Wilson
> Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot. Should I
> walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally illiterate on
> the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?
I think the emap is the easiest gps I've used. And it only needs 2
battereies. I have the Garmin MapSource Topo maps. It was easy to load the
topo maps in it. It's nice to have out on the lake, in my boat, not on the
klr.
That is a great price on them.
MotorMark
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 11:24 pm
by Backroad Bandit
--- In
DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Mark Wilson" wrote:
>
> > Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot.
Should I
> > walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally
illiterate on
> > the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?
MotorMark,
I will take your recommendation, and tomorrow night will walk over to
Office Depot and see if I can get one. Thanks. It's too late now,
and I have too much tequila in me to go shopping right now, I'd buy
anything!
ps....still using GOOP to fix everything.
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 11:35 pm
by rhefferan@yahoo.com
The EMAP may be better suited for Street use than off-road. Mostly
due to ruggedness, I'm not sure. It seems to cover all the natural
features (such as lakes, streams) that are in the III+ base map
(built-in map). However, it has an important feature that the III+
does not, programable memory cartidges! 8 or 16MB as opposed to
1.44MB. Go to this page:
http://www.garmin.com/products/emap/
At the bottom is a product comparison link. Compare the models and
make your own choice. It looks to me about the only things it doesn't
equal or exceed the III+ or 12MAP is in the battery life (power it to
the bike) and waterproof areas. It's still waterproof, just a
different level (IPX2 vs IPX7, whatever that is). As for ease of use?
If you can learn to use the many features of a PCS cell phone or your
computer, you can learn to use a GPS. It's just another set of
details and a technology language. It helps to understand maps and
navigation beforehand. But you learned your computer pretty well,
right? If not maybe, you can find someone you know who could help out.
Rex
--- In
DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Backroad Bandit"
> Rex, I can walk across the road here and go to Office Depot. Should
I
> walk over ther and get one of the E-Maps? I am totally illiterate
on
> the subject of GPS...it's easy to use?
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 4:27 am
by CrazyDave
Garmin now has the 32, 64, and 128 meg chips for the Emap and the Street
Pilots, the 128 meg chip is around $400.00, thats more than the unit.
crazydave
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 05:34:19 -0000, rhefferan@... wrote:
> The EMAP may be better suited for Street use than off-road. Mostly
> due to ruggedness, I'm not sure. It seems to cover all the natural
> features (such as lakes, streams) that are in the III+ base map
> (built-in map). However, it has an important feature that the III+
> does not, programable memory cartidges! 8 or 16MB as opposed to
> 1.44MB. Go to this page:
>
http://www.garmin.com/products/emap/
> At the bottom is a product comparison link. Compare the models and
> make your own choice. It looks to me about the only things it doesn't
> equal or exceed the III+ or 12MAP is in the battery life (power it to
> the bike) and waterproof areas. It's still waterproof, just a
> different level (IPX2 vs IPX7, whatever that is). As for ease of use?
> If you can learn to use the many features of a PCS cell phone or your
> computer, you can learn to use a GPS. It's just another set of
> details and a technology language. It helps to understand maps and
> navigation beforehand. But you learned your computer pretty well,
> right? If not maybe, you can find someone you know who could help out.
>
> Rex
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 8:01 am
by Ted Palmer
* Deks* wrote:
[much modified 600]
> He had to go that much cause the cylinder was damaged (inside) and it was
> the only way to save the engine from junk.
Uh huh. I can imagine the bigger bore was necessary, but the rest of
the mods sound more like it was fun to see how far the engine could
be modified.
> Still, it melted due to
> overheating a few thousand kms later. The rider "killed" it making high rpms
> even though my friend told him not to go that high.
Interesting, any good KLR600 owner knows that the 600 has more
radiator area than a 650.
Whatever, the modified 600 must have been making loads of power to
overstress the cooling system.
I have to wonder if the motor actually detonated itself to death
instead. 5mm skimmed off the head would make a big difference to the
compression ratio, and then would open up cans of worms labelled
"cam timing", "piston to valve clearance", "head gasket sealing",
among plenty of others.
Mister_T