politics in general

[Dash Weeks]

OK it's clear. Some like KORG... others don't. We spent a great deal of time brainstorming for monkeys (err Monika's, [damn fingers] Monikers) and we can do that again. Then at the end of our brainstorming, we'll vote. It's a pretty clear process. We need a deadline (one that may not be extended), we need nominations, we'll deliberate the nominations and then finally we'll vote. If you don't care, great, but if you don't vote then you are giving up the right to bitch about it later. If you do vote and don't like the outcome then don't buy a patch or sticker. I personally would enjoy going to a function and find a bike or few with our sticker, or a rider with our patch. Whatever your reasons, for or against, I think they should be heard. When we discussed this a few months ago there were less than 600 members, we've grown, and since it hasn't been officially decided then lets re-visit it. If you are only here to mine information about the KLR, great, if you are completely dis-interested in a unified name, great. If having a large number of people with very different demographics empowers us to certain benefits, and you don't care to be associated then we'll be sure to take your name off the list of beneficiaries. Perhaps we don't need a clever acronym, perhaps we simply adopt a symbol type logo that simply stands for the ???? "Internet KLR Dual Sport Motorcycle Enthusiast Cult" ????? We can visually identify many groups or brands or products just from a simple symbol or logo. Why would we need the Name built into our logo? Recognition from outsiders? HA! So think of logos, think of names, either or both, it doesn't matter. Introduce your idea to the list and we'll flame you for being stupid. LaterZ Dash Oh by the way, I think we should keep KORG but use a simple symbol only logo. Oh and if you're upset that I took off NKLR, that's because even the people filtering this stuff may want to be included in the decision process. Perhaps we need a new label for those truly dis-interested in the process..... KORG perhaps?

[Dash Weeks]

I actually like this. I don't care if it's related only to computer programming. Crossing definitions to other realms is cool with me. Even if you all don't like it, I'm putting GROK on my bike. I DO have an exhaustive, and intimate relationship/knowledge with/of my KLR. Call me suited (or Dash, I don't care). Thanks a lot Zack. I don't even think GROK needs to be fit as an acronym. Use GROK as a symbol type logo to mean the belonging to our cult, with the added dimensional meaning of being on top of things and knowing your stuff. I am changing my like to "like a lot" and am approaching "really like a lot" LaterZ Dash At 03:28 PM 12/13/2000 -0500, Zachariah Mully wrote:

>Hey all- > I am surprised that I didn't think about this earlier, but the recent > arguments over KORG (which I will agree not to like) and the subsquent > BIKE lead me to think about "GROK" as a name. I am sure that some our > more knowledge computer experts will understand the word, but for others, > here is the official definition: > >grok /grohk/ (from the novel Stranger in a Strange Land, by Robert >Heinlein) v. 1: to understand, usually in a global sense; connotes >intimate and exhaustive knowledge. >Source: The Free Online Dictionary of Computing > > Which I think almost perfectly describes us and the knowledge that we > share about the KLR and the world in general. It also sounds perfectly > cave-"person"ish, which would suit our fascination of a 13 year old > motorcycle design, positively a dinosaur in the industry. So perhaps > someone could fit the wording to the acronym? "Group de Rideurs et > Owneurs de KLR" (I only know Chinese, so all you french speakers: don't > lambast me for neutering your language) I suppose the only problem with > this is that we might get mistaken for a bunch of motorcycle-mobile > programmers planning on taking over the world (which we do every night, > Pinky). > >Add another suggestion to the stable. > > > >Zack

[Tim]

C.R.A.C.K. Cool Rider's Atop Cool KLR's Tim Cali Moab in June

[Tim]

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Tim " wrote:

> C.R.A.C.K. > > Cool Rider's Atop Cool KLR's > > Tim > > Cali Moab in June

Think of the cool patches you can make for that one!!!! p.s. Does Big Gun make a Glass pipe for my exhaust?

[motor_rider@email.msn.com]

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Dash Weeks wrote:

> OK it's clear. Some like KORG... others don't.>

Well... It just sounds like some medication used to stop diarrhea... or is that KORK? MR

[Zachariah Mully]

> >I am changing my like to "like a lot" and am approaching "really >like a lot" > >LaterZ >Dash

Plus we can say fun things like: * "Damn he groks KLR's" * "I was talking Elden about grokking my KLR's balancer ..." * "I wish I could grok her ..." (/him) * "Damn GROK, riding all over the place and saying things like: hmmm... I can fix that with some bailing wire" (

[Don Detloff]

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Tim " wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Tim " wrote: > > C.R.A.C.K. > > > > Cool Rider's Atop Cool KLR's > > > > Tim > > > > Cali Moab in June > > Think of the cool patches you can make for that one!!!! > > > p.s. Does Big Gun make a Glass pipe for my exhaust?

Would that be a C.R.A.C.K. Pipe? Don Detloff Fair Haven, MI A14

[Russell Scott]

Speaking of motorcycle cults, here is an excerpt from a story from Brock Yates you can find at the link below. Very entertaining: http://www.twbookmark.com/books/86/0316967181/chapter_excerpt8112.html Properly costumed, he had become a member of a tiny, exclusive clique headquartered in a grease-stained warren on the edge of town. There a strange, lanky man ran a dealership for Harley-Davidson motorcycles. It was off-limits to decent folk, a corral for outriders and bandits, bikers and weirdos who rode motorcycles, more a collection of shacks than a real building. The floors were soaked black with motor oil and littered with shards of piston rings, broken chains, shattered cylinder heads, and bent forks-the effluvia of a thousand haphazard repairs. Outside leaned a rabble of old motorcycles, bare-boned frames, piles of shredded tires, and broken engines, a graveyard of outlaw machinery tended by the gaunt man who knew - the high priest in the smoky Harley temple. One day the suburbanite ventured into the forbidden place, naively searching for a part for his Cushman. This was akin to asking the gunnery officer on the USS Missouri for a box of BBs. A Cushman motor scooter in a Harley-Davidson store? Send in the clowns! What's that pie-faced twit doing intruding with that puny, gutless slug among real men's machines? The dealer slouched inside, appearing nearly as filthy as the soot-stained wads. He grunted a response to the kid's question, barely deigning to deal with a noncultist. Other men lurked against the workbenches. They wore grimy denims and sported heavy engineer's boots gleaming with caked motor oil. They smoked heavily, filling the morbid room with gray clouds that mingled with the belching and backfiring of the Harley they were attempting to tune with large screwdrivers. The outlander had clearly stifled conversation, and it would remain so until he departed, leaving them to stand in silent witness to the rattle-bone thud of the big machine under the dealer's crude ministrations. The kid never returned. Nor did anyone he knew who was considered a member of decent society ever enter those dreaded precincts.

[InWoods13@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/13/00 4:26:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, dweeks@... writes: :) LaterZ Dash >> KORG's good....We (KLR owners) are a bunch unlike any other MC subculture, & as a group, this list burns real brite. All of the subcultures get the same Basic kicks on riding, but our specific (NoLimits) niche, embodies the spirit of what riding's all about, in my eyes. What's Russian, for "Riders"? Not going to suggest a logo as the "mines" have pretty much sucked the life out of me for today....& I've nothing left to come up with a tangible graphic concept....If I had the energy to create something, it would be a Dark KLR in wheelie, w/bars crossed, against brite red sun. Scott A14 "grom sobaka" >>aka"thunderdog" - turn signal bulb went out today, first major problem....& here I was bragging that the beast was bulletproof.

[TimHiles@aol.com]

Just read the posts requesting no political views AFTER my last post. I thought as long as there was NKLR in the subject line people who didn't want to read it could skip the message. I'm sorry if the history of this great country is too controversial or trite for the "motorcycle bunch." I happen to think there's no bigger news, but maybe one of the listers has found a new tire, or oil, or luggage, or boots, or jacket, you know what I mean, the real life and future altering things.